Intel will finally ship its extremely expensive Pentium 4 Extreme Edition on Monday, more than a month after the games-oriented processor was announced. So says PC World, citing a source "familiar with Intel's plans". This 'deep throat' also claims a number of PC vendors will on Monday announce boxes based on the chip. The P4EE was launched last September at Intel Developer Forum, primarily in an attempt to knock some of the shine off AMD's Athlon 64 launch, which took place the week after.

Like the Athlon 64 FX-51, the P4EE is being pitched as a high performance CPU for gamers. Like the AMD chip, the Intel part is essentially a sever/workstaion chip - Xeon in this case - re-branded as a desktop processor. The P4EE boasts 2MB of on-die L3 cache alongside the regular P4's 512KB of L2 cache. It will be clocked at 3.2GHz. Not coincidentally, that's the speed at which the next generation of P4, 'Prescott', is expected to debut. Not only is the P4EE a foil for the Athlon 64 FX, it's also a distraction from the problems Intel denies it's experiencing in getting Prescott out of the door in volume.

The new chip isn't going to be cheap, either. Its anticipated price is $925 - over $500 more expensive than the $417 3.2GHz P4.

News source: The Reg

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Quote this comment Reply to this comment #1 Posted by SimplyPotatoes on 31 Oct 2003 - 13:47
come on voodoo p4ee has 2e's not 3 p4eee
slacker!
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #2 Posted by SirEvan on 31 Oct 2003 - 14:05
AHAHAHA Extremely Expensive Edition... I love it... the subtle humor on this site kicks a$$

edit: sorry about spelling... it's like 6am, and I haven't gone to bed yet...lol It won't happen again

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Quote this comment #2.1 Posted by Knight' on 31 Oct 2003 - 14:23
don't you mean site not sight?
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #3 Posted by StuRReaL on 31 Oct 2003 - 14:31
P4 EE = Extra Expensive

How can they justifiy they that price tag. Intel could easilty make their chips alot cheaper nearly the same price as an AthlonXP. As per usual us users get a raping
Quote this comment #3.1 Posted by Fanon on 31 Oct 2003 - 14:44
But we, as the consumer, have the power to not buy it. Let's face it: Intel knows people will pay that kind of money for their chip. If people wouldn't buy it, prices wouldn't be so high.
Quote this comment #3.2 Posted by xStainDx on 31 Oct 2003 - 17:08
Ask AMD to PUT 2MB of L3 on their CPU's you'll see the price tag skyrocket as well.

The price is justified. You people just don't get it.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #4 Posted by username on 31 Oct 2003 - 14:53
Very Expensive Edition
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #5 Posted by mh508 on 31 Oct 2003 - 14:59
So, this is a Xeon for games?
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #6 Posted by rezza on 31 Oct 2003 - 15:13
Holy **** thats expensive!
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #7 Posted by AndyD on 31 Oct 2003 - 15:33
$925!?!? Why is this industry going backwards. Feel like we're back in the mid nineties.
Quote this comment #7.1 Posted by Jugalator on 02 Nov 2003 - 13:09
Hehe

You can get a computer that can play most current games at decent framerates for that price of the processor alone.
(5 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #8 Posted by aristotle-dude on 31 Oct 2003 - 15:45
My gawd you PC users don't get it. Things cost money. L3 cache is very expensive. I'd never get a P4EE but that is besides the point. You cannot get everything below cost. I don't know if you guys realize this but AMD is losing money by offering you greedy buggers those low prices. So do you still want those cheap prices? Get them while the companies are still in business insensitive clods.

Get some friken "real" jobs people so you can afford to pay the actual price of things.
Quote this comment #8.1 Posted by xan_san on 31 Oct 2003 - 16:03
do you know the production cost of a normal CPU?

20$ - 25 $

Are you going to tell me that that 2 MB of cache cost 900$ ?!
Quote this comment #8.2 Posted by TranceSphere on 31 Oct 2003 - 16:21
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production cost of a normal CPU?


This aint a normal CPU tho, its a server cpu that has been put into a p4 socket to combat Athlon64/fx's.
Quote this comment #8.3 Posted by Daffy_Duck on 31 Oct 2003 - 17:49
Even if it costs less than $50 for each chip you have to consider the huge tooling and machine costs that they have to pay for before the first chip gets made. Also consider the almost unbelievably high cost of a chip fab plant and you understand why they charge what they do for the processors.

By the way, the plants are in the area of a 4 billion dollars. Yes, that's 4000 million dollars. An automotive plant costs around 500 million.

Keep it in mind.
Quote this comment #8.4 Posted by bluebsh on 31 Oct 2003 - 18:05
production costs are not $20-25 that is way way under estimated. The energy required to make a chip exceeds $20 per chip alone. Then you have to add in the cost of the silicon, copper, the chip bed, the R&D costs, the costs to run all the equipment that makes the chip. It's a relatively large number.
Quote this comment #8.5 Posted by Daffy_Duck on 31 Oct 2003 - 18:08
Right, I think he was only accounting for material costs.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #9 Posted by hardgiant on 31 Oct 2003 - 16:05
Just not worth it to spend $500 more for 2 megs of L3 cache.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #10 Posted by donachello on 31 Oct 2003 - 16:22
Does anybody have a chair for me to sit down....

HOW MUCH....!

OMG what a price youy can by a decent PC for that price...
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #11 Posted by Skyfrog on 31 Oct 2003 - 16:29
I'm not upgrading my faithful Pentium III until Longhorn ships.
Quote this comment #11.1 Posted by bluebsh on 31 Oct 2003 - 18:07
you might want to upgrade it to the fastest P3 and as much memory as you can put in it then for now
Quote this comment #11.2 Posted by Skyfrog on 31 Oct 2003 - 19:08
I'm have a 1 Ghz Tualatin and 512MB of RAM at the moment. It runs all of my current software just fine so I'm in no hurry to upgrade. I was actually doing fine with 256MB of RAM but I've gotten into Photoshop so I figured more would be better.
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #12 Posted by StuRReaL on 31 Oct 2003 - 17:10
u can buy no fewer than 5 AthlonXP 2800+ chips for that price. Its a shame ppl are gonna buy them. I'd love it if the world turns round and gives intel the finger (i can dream)
Quote this comment #12.1 Posted by aristotle-dude on 31 Oct 2003 - 20:23
And how is AMD doing financially now? AMD has been forced to sell at below total ammortized cost of a production run.

To figure out the total cost you have to consider R&D costs, retooling, materials, labor etc...

Enjoy those chep AMD chips while you can before the company disapears.
Quote this comment #12.2 Posted by Jugalator on 02 Nov 2003 - 13:12
lol, now that's a first timer...

Before the company... disappears? Wow, now I'm scared. They were founded in 1969, and now they're going away because of too cheap processors. ROFL

I think they have a very good idea of how to market their processors and set prices to at least stay in business.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #13 Posted by William on 31 Oct 2003 - 17:26
Ahaha, great post Voodoo. Hit the nail on the head with that one.

Edit: Happy Halloween!
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #14 Posted by Daffy_Duck on 31 Oct 2003 - 17:52
Intel knows this will be a low volume chip and to recoup the tooling and production costs they have to charge more $. I am guessing that putting 2mb cache on the chip is an expensive process.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #15 Posted by Fally on 31 Oct 2003 - 19:41
Although the price is unnecessarily high, 2Meg of L3 will make that chip scream...

The Xeons scream and they only have up to 1meg of L2...
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #16 Posted by No_Style on 31 Oct 2003 - 20:16
Intel targetted this chip for HIGH END users. High end people with deep pockets don't really care for the price tag. Yes, there are people in the world who do not care how much what costs or what has a better price/performance ratio. Extreme Edition isn't for the everyday user. Intel has already stated that. So, I don't see what's the whole fuss about this and this is a better chip for the price and whatnot.

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Quote this comment Reply to this comment #17 Posted by slapnuts_ox on 31 Oct 2003 - 22:30
Athlon 64's for me
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #18 Posted by cocolio on 01 Nov 2003 - 01:58
i think if intel mkes good processors wouldnt be affraid of AMD´s proccessor launch and there wouldnt be an extremly estupid edition, and AMD will never dissapear because we simply need them not for their cheap processors just because if intel keeps alone in the market they will sell that crap (in my opinion all those processors are ****) at higher prices and they are scared of loosing their called 80 percent profit in the market (are these numbers buyed by intel too??), about costs yes thats the real costs of manufacturing (maybe more but just a little bit) everyone knows that AMD proccessors now are more better than intel and thats why intel now pays for hardware specialized sites to give them better PERFORMANCE vs AMD BECOUSE THEY ARE AFRAID and they are in danger of extinction thats why they release "higher clocked" processors because they cannot compete with AMD at the same clock frequencies
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #19 Posted by Octol on 01 Nov 2003 - 03:06
What a coincidence. I just bought a P4 3.2GHz chip for US $299! I guess I got the P4 3.2C model—the 3.2Cheap!
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #20 Posted by NeoNut on 01 Nov 2003 - 10:04
The funny thing is that they are doing this to outperform a 2.2 Ghz AMD processor
Quote this comment #20.1 Posted by cocolio on 02 Nov 2003 - 01:37
what are the reasons you are telling this, speed or performance? AMD is kicking intel in the ass and intel is affraid of it
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #21 Posted by Autoexec on 03 Nov 2003 - 09:22
We got one in an alienware box arrive on thursday and i tell u what its a bad a55 runs about 10% quicker than our 3.2Ghz Alienware box which is going some. Watching gfx benchmarks there's definatly something extreem about this chip not just the price tag ......

Oh and as for AMD my stance doesnt change there unreliable i dont care what anyone says, i wont run my reliable office on AMD Shumuck...
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