The US Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has ordered US computer and TV manufacturers to incorporate digital rights management (DRM) technology into their products by July 2005. The Commission wants to deter people from swapping free-to-air digital TV programmes and movies over peer-to-peer networks, and protect the entertainment industry from the problems the music industry is experiencing.
FCC chairman Michael Powell said in a statement that the protection had to be mandatory because, unlike cable and pay-per-view TV, free-to-air TV broadcasts are not encrypted. The film industry has also welcomed the move as a means of protecting copyright.
In a panel debate, movie moguls and TV producers said the industry faces a growing threat from a Napster-style network, where people could upload and share digital films and TV programmes without paying for them. They likened consumer goods manufacturers to arms dealers, maintaining that they sell the ammunition to both sides. In DRM, they have a weapon they can use to fight back.
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FCC chairman Michael Powell said in a statement that the protection had to be mandatory because, unlike cable and pay-per-view TV, free-to-air TV broadcasts are not encrypted. The film industry has also welcomed the move as a means of protecting copyright.
In a panel debate, movie moguls and TV producers said the industry faces a growing threat from a Napster-style network, where people could upload and share digital films and TV programmes without paying for them. They likened consumer goods manufacturers to arms dealers, maintaining that they sell the ammunition to both sides. In DRM, they have a weapon they can use to fight back.
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note to riaa
embrace us dont restict us.
this will have no effect on piracy. get over it
The RIAA has nothing to do with this.
riaa /mpaa/bsa as the same stupid ppl in my book
http://www.dictionary.com (in case you need to look up a few of those words)
Last edited by 4661 on 07 Nov 2003 - 10:38
funny thing is im agnostic. why dont you pull head out of your ass
werejag was just pointing out through the use of a metaphor that DRM IS linked to the riaa/mpaa etc, since they would be the main bodies it benifits
fjv
DRM would benefit a whole lot of bodies. It doesn't mean you should go around in every DRM-related news topic and start bitching about every single one of those bodies.
/rant
Just a thought that i dont know much about yet but: Have any prophets predicted the future in detail? not the next 1000 years but the coming 100 years, thats when oil reserves are predicted to go out. Not much transport with gasoline trucks so there might become a food shortage and emergencies. Expecting technology to save us (if my concern has grounds) is a modern way of thinking, its like praying to God and not think/work for yourself.
All religious people I've spoken with seems pretty ignorant and bliss, even homosexuality they claim can be "fixed" by praying and faith. Yes I've contacts as I've grown up in church of mormon and my two sisters/brother and mother is still mormons.
maybe this is gonna be the start of a big split down the middle of the electronics/computers/geek world, with the DRM-enabled expensive equipment, OSs and software on one side, and the hacked together home-brew hardware, OSs and software on the other side?
Also: Thanks Michael Powell for yet another hand job for big business, just like the one you gave in deregulating the media juggernaut further despite Congressional outrage. And so much for the Randian free-market fairy working its magic on this one. The merger of state and corporate power continues unabated.
Also the DRM is part of some other bill they are trying to push. This would require all hardware/software to conform with it. That means your computer hardware has to be DRM enabled, and then in order to run an operating system/program, it has to be DRM enabled and in order to obtain DRM you have to pay a lot of money.
This :
A) Kills startup software companies/developers from being able to sell their programs because they will not afford to pay for DRM in order to have their software work on your computer.
B) Kill open source anything. Linux and other open source won't be able to work on the hardware, giving companies, especially MS a monopoly in the OS market.
C) Pretty much kills abilities for people to learn programming. Well sure you can write a program, BUT when you compile it and cannot run it because it doesn't have a digital right, then your not going to know if it worked. Plus who wants to program somehting that you cant run?
D) Many other thigns
I'm all for companies wanting to prevent people from pirating their stuff BUT the whole DMR thign is part of somethign big that will effectivly remove many right you have when it comes to tv/music/computer.
now get that right , you riaa/mpaa/bsa/fcc scum
Last edited by 10354 on 07 Nov 2003 - 11:29
it restricts rights. as i read dazzla (i think) post about a similar issue:
'a new technology gets released, gets cracked and solves nothing, and the innocent consumers get another law shoved up their ass'
Bullsh*t. Pull your head out of your ass.
Yeah but this DRM isn't just going to prevent people from downloading stuff illegally. There is a huge thing behind this DRM.With DRM lets say your cable is out or something so you get a friend to tape a show for you... if their recored and your player has DRM, you won't be able to play what they taped for you.
Also the DRM is part of some other bill they are trying to push. This would require all hardware/software to conform with it. That means your computer hardware has to be DRM enabled, and then in order to run an operating system/program, it has to be DRM enabled and in order to obtain DRM you have to pay a lot of money.
This :
A) Kills startup software companies/developers from being able to sell their programs because they will not afford to pay for DRM in order to have their software work on your computer.
B) Kill open source anything. Linux and other open source won't be able to work on the hardware, giving companies, especially MS a monopoly in the OS market.
C) Pretty much kills abilities for people to learn programming. Well sure you can write a program, BUT when you compile it and cannot run it because it doesn't have a digital right, then your not going to know if it worked. Plus who wants to program somehting that you cant run?
D) Many other thigns
I'm all for companies wanting to prevent people from pirating their stuff BUT the whole DMR thign is part of somethign big that will effectivly remove many right you have when it comes to tv/music/computer.
Agree.
Wrong, I said DRM capabilities, and since none of the current Office suits will run on a DRM platform(There is no final implementation yet), everyone will need to upgrade to an Office Suite that will undoubtably have DRM capabilities in it (whether it be a patch or office 12+).
exactly, but maybe more like xbox... there will be some people to crack it to put their own programming on it (referring to xbox-linu
they are fscking nuts!!
That is definitely what we need in Europe & Asia to give our hardware manufacturing a boost.
Maybe those abroad manufacturers will not follow your big brother ideas.
DRM is THE way agianst freedom of thoughts and actions.
Maybe we should believe the fascist rumours after all.
edit: yes of course i meant after buying, oops, i mean we still could rip audio cds without DR protection couldn't we?
Last edited by 17789 on 07 Nov 2003 - 11:42
In my work (IT support) i never use original disks and always use my legally permitted backup of all my OS software and applications with a value of easily £500,000+.
yeah keep saying that America controls the world.
yes im serious that safe warm home of yours would be possible if man didnt cooperate and be nice. Laws and all.
i.e. itunes
If they still put this technology (at no extra cost for the consumer) well... console chip modders will simply be having a lot more customers.
fjv
they are not going to stop anything, they can't.
That, or the fact that consumers will stop buying PC hardware and then when all the big deaprtment stores cry to congress, they weill overturn this unworkable FCC ruling.
Here in Australia, we had a similar issue with Zones for DVD players....the makret for DVD players has picked up in the last 20 months...vendors cannot sell DVD players that have zone locks on them...NOONE buys them. Now all players are zone free and every is happy. Vendors are sell them like hotcakes, consumers get what they want, and DVD content creaters are making a packet from all the DVD sales.
The market will dictate this....i have no doubt.
/sorry im lazy didnt read teh articl3
It is going to effect the growth of future technology though.
Discalimers on the start of copyrighted material specifically say " No lending or hiring"
you are legally allowed to record tv for your own viewing but in fact you are breaking the law by lending copyrighted material to your "friend"
copyright laws are fickle things i know because im affected by copyright law on a daily basis, its all cack tbh but hey its law
We want to protect the industry since we make over 5 billion dollars a year, but with piracy finally dead we can make 8 billion dollars a year!!!
*sarcastic mode off*
(Which btw devices sold in the western world have to have this chip by law)
For the guys who think that by 2005 everyone would need to buy a new tv set..... think about it dood non chipped tvs will still work but evenbtually would die off one by one. They are INTRODUCING it in 2005 as in itll be put into product lines from that date onward as was macrovision protection chips were when dvds etc started to appear.
I don't think this is likely to go unchallenged. There is a very real concern about corporate fascism here, and I think people are worried about abuse of this technology. DRM is a great idea in theory, but in practice it's ultimately useless and wasteful. Take DVDs for example. They are encrypted, a form of DRM. Look how long it took to get past that. Not very long at all. There are plenty of ways to copy DVDs, and rips of DVD movies are plentiful on the Internet. Which brings me to the point of attempting to stop piracy… I think these companies have long since realized that they cannot eliminate piracy, but they will at least try to slow it down. And that’s what we have here. An attempt to slow down piracy. I’m not sure how effective it is. I guess it helps them sleep at night knowing that n00bs can’t figure a way around it. The more experienced types get around this with little effort and hassle. That’s the reality here and I don’t think many in these corporate organizations would dispute that.
Of course some people are angry that they don’t have the “right” to steal. What a shock. I don’t care about that. Stealing is stealing and it’s wrong. Period. Speaking for myself, the real trouble here is the erosion of fair use and the draconian measures attached to the “right” to view said material. For me, it started as merely annoying. Every time I load a DVD into my player, I am absolutely FORCED to view a copyright notice. For 10-30 seconds, it depends on the DVD. Then I have to view a variation of the notice, or sometimes the same notice in a different language. Another 10-30 seconds. Not a lot of time, but in my home, I should be able to spend it how I choose. With VHS, I could simply fast forward. I know what the notice says, and I know what it means. There is no need to insult my intelligence by forcing me as captive audience to view it with insane regularity. That’s just rude, and I think that amounts to abuse of the technology. It always starts with the simple things that no one notices.
Then it got worse. I purchased a movie on the Internet from SightSound.com. It was a little independent film, nothing particularly popular, and therefore not likely to be a widely pirated film. All the same, it came with DRM attached anyway. I wasn’t all that concerned: I was happy to pay for it and keep it forever. Then I crushed my Athlon T-Bird installing a new HSF, thus requiring the replacement of the CPU. Upon replacement of the CPU, can anyone guess what happened? If you said the movie flat out told me to pay for the right to see it, or otherwise get lost, then go to the head of the class. I knew that DRM was tied to the hardware configuration of my PC, but I had no idea that I need change only ONE component to set it off. Some told me that I could get away with more common upgrades. Like what? As if a CPU upgrade for many people isn’t common at all. With no phone support, I eMailed SightSound and explained what happened. I figure that they must come up against this type of problem all the time, so I never doubted that they could issue a new keycode or something to get the video to play again. I went back and forth 3 times before they finally decided I was “authorized” to view the movie and they issued a new code. It didn’t work, because the code was issued for my previous configuration. I know that because the gave me the SAME code I had already. It was as if I never mentioned the CPU change and simply lost my orginal code after reformatting or something. I eMailed them back of course, but they told me that I would have to purchase a new copy of the movie if I wanted it to play it on a different PC. Mustering all the strength I could, I maintained a polite composure. I told them only the CPU had changed. They replied for the last time saying that a new CPU equals a new computer according to the DRM scheme they employed. I eMailed back to no avail. I was completely outraged. Granted, I was only out a few dollars, but that money was still ultimately wasted. I paid for a copy to keep permanently, not rent. And now I don’t have what I paid for.
It suddenly dawned on me that if I bought a new PC, I would have come against the same exact problem. There would be no way for me to use a legal copy of this movie on my new PC. I wonder how Dell feels about that. Them and other PC manufactures better being close attention to this. What’s the point of buying a new PC if I can’t take my music and movies with me to the new one? This is the future here folks, and I for one, don’t like what I see. I see a future where one who abides by the law gets screwed anyway. I see a future where the consumer is suspect right from the get-go. I’m sure there will be better companies to provide better experiences than this, but this hassle isn’t needed to begin with. But since these companies think it is, they are going to have to deal with resolving these very real logistical problems as they relate to upgrades and migration. Not to mention a few other problems I haven’t even mentioned. The fact is, a company can promise they will work to avoid these scenarios, but my experience will be a lot more common if this DRM gets everywhere the way the FCC is demanding. The worst thing is, people are going to accept it. DRM is dream on paper and a nightmare in practice. Consumers are going to feel trapped and powerless, and companies are going to get a bad rap for simply trying to protect themselves. Exactly how is this supposed to help anyone?
I don’t know… maybe there is hope after all. I think iTunes and Napster have the right idea here. Pricing models that won’t break the bank. They should do something similar with movies and allow you to burn them to DVD yourself if you want. If I’m not mistaken, I think Napster takes the iTunes concept a little further. They allow you to download legal music from the service, but I think they also allow you to share your collection with other members. To get the sharing feature you must pay the higher subscription price though. Like $30/month. That’s fine, but I don’t know how DRM comes into play here. As such, I’m not buying into these services anytime soon. So far, I’ve seen that “legal” services are hassle services. I’m still a little skeptical of any company that sells me a product, then has the nerve to tell me how/when/where I can use it:
“What, it’s OK to view on my PC, but you’re telling me I can’t watch it on my TV!? F**K OFF!”
I thought the consumer what supposed to be a company’s best friend. Now these companies want locks to keep their friends out.
Last edited by 639 on 07 Nov 2003 - 18:23
Truly hope people will stand up and fight DRM. DRM is a disaster.
Every single copy protection there has ever been has been cracked...
Yo, you all remember the code wheels back in tha day? I think I may still have a photocopied one for an old DnD game...
The broadcast flag only apply (H)DTV stream and only and only mean't for (H)DTV Recording device.
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