Straight from Slashdot:
"In our office we've been running an older 5gb iPod with both Macs and PC's (using Xplay), but when we installed iTunes for the PC the iPod stopped working. Songs and playlists transfer over fine, and you can see them and play them in iTunes, but you can't listen to them on the iPod, itself. It shows the song details and so forth, but skips through the tracks, playing 0 seconds of each one until it finishes. This only applies to tracks added since iTunes was installed. No amount of reformatting, or rolling back firmware seems to work. When I called Apple, they stated that they simply don't support the use of the older Mac iPods on PC's and are not responsible, even though they admit that it was their own software that caused this."
News source: Slashdot
"In our office we've been running an older 5gb iPod with both Macs and PC's (using Xplay), but when we installed iTunes for the PC the iPod stopped working. Songs and playlists transfer over fine, and you can see them and play them in iTunes, but you can't listen to them on the iPod, itself. It shows the song details and so forth, but skips through the tracks, playing 0 seconds of each one until it finishes. This only applies to tracks added since iTunes was installed. No amount of reformatting, or rolling back firmware seems to work. When I called Apple, they stated that they simply don't support the use of the older Mac iPods on PC's and are not responsible, even though they admit that it was their own software that caused this."
News source: Slashdot
Features:
- Multi-Hub connections
- Minimize to tray
- /commands
- Logging
- Display Joins & Parts
- Confirm Exit
- Resume check
- Notepad
- Favorites List
- Sounds
- No Advertisments
- Disclude hidden files from share
- Non-crappy interface
- Not Visual Basic (!)
- Menubar
- Open Source
- Firewall/Router Support
- Auto-Connect
- Search Spy
- Multi-Kicking
- Away Message
makes me wonder, why are so many glitches popping up day by day for Apple ?
see I dont understand exactly that. No big corp needs anybody to come to defend their pants, they should be able to do it themselves or be bold like Microsoft and walk around naked.
And apparently, everyone is failing to notice tha Apple doesn't support WIndows for first generation iPods.
oopsy
Mac iPods are not now, nor were they ever supposed to be hooked to a Windows machine. That's why you formatted them to a windows format when they came right out of the box, if you own a pc. RTFM.
And the whole theory more users = more probs is crap.
oh well. this is why it's always best to check what is actually supported by the software before you use it. /me shrugs.
agp8x = current agp technology
agp1x = very old.
ipod 5gb DOES NOT EQUAL agp8x, but infact is equal to agp 1x in this example. Therefore, the proper thing to say, frod, would be:
so from your guys' opinions it seems as though it's alright to try to use an agp 1x graphics card in an agp 8x slot and call the company and complain that it doesn't work and expect to have the problem resolved by the company.
Regardless, I believe this issue is more a user problem because I don't believe the iPod is "broken". Best guess from reading the thread in the apple discussions is they never reformatted to FAT32 and installed the windows firmware.
The problem with your scenario is Apple NEVER released software that was supposed to make the 5G iPod work with the Windows version of iTunes....If you have read the comments you will see that some people have had no problems,(In fact this is the first problem I've heard of), but Apple is in no way responsible for it if you are using it in a way it was not designed for.(PERIOD!)
agp8x = current agp technology
agp1x = very old.
ipod 5gb DOES NOT EQUAL agp8x, but infact is equal to agp 1x in this example. Therefore, the proper thing to say, frod, would be:
so from your guys' opinions it seems as though it's alright to try to use an agp 1x graphics card in an agp 8x slot and call the company and complain that it doesn't work and expect to have the problem resolved by the company.
Your correction is flawed. tullkin was making a comparison to a configuration that would not work and would be unsupported (an AGP 8x card in an AGP 1x slot). You "corrected" him with a perfectly valid configuration (an AGP 1x card in an AGP 8x card). He wasn't comparing by age, he was comparing by validity.
Then why would Apple have confirmed the problem?
Never heard a past case? Well, duh. iTunes for Windows was just released. And, um, Apple admitted their program broke it.
What a buncha frickin MORONS!!!
THE 5G iPOD WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE USED WITH THE WINDOWS VERSION OF ITUNES EVER!!! PERIOD END OF STORY.
Get a grip on the facts people,please???
You heard me incorrectly. No past cases probably means that the user end has screwed up, not Apple's end. They probably just acknowledged the fact that they might have broken it so the customer would just be a LITTLE happier.
And to think this is coming from slash dot. Weak sauce!
The only comment to come sfrom slashdot itself was: "Does anyone have ideas on possible fixes for the afflicted iPods?"
Although, the article's title is very misleading, when indeed it was probably the user himself that cuased the problem.
And I'm not sure yet, but I think I've had the same problem. I know I transferred a cd I ripped a few days ago and had this exact result. The thing is that the iPod and related software has been very buggy in general for me, so I didn't think much of it. I just put it down as another glitch. Guess I'll have to look into it now.
Don't get me wrong, I love my iPod. But it and it's software is pretty buggy by todays standards. Fortunantely, I've been using PC's since DOS 5.something, so I'm pretty used to the idea that software has bugs and crashes. As long as it doesn't hang my machine or make me loose data, I'm pretty patient.
And I'm not sure yet, but I think I've had the same problem.<
Then in your case you would have a legitimate reason to complain, and if you contacted Apple you should get a different response than the idiot that tried to get a Mac only product to work with Windows, and then complained when Apple would not support it.
To all the people complaining try this: Take your brand new Dell and rip the guts out, put in a liquid cooling system, and then contact Dell when you have problems....Gee....I wonder what they would say???
He was trying to use a first generation in an incompatible environment. I don't think that's Apple fault.
So i think as the third generation works on both platform it may by default be on fat ? (don't know for this one)
There is a tool on Apple's site that will tweakup the firmware and format the mac 2G iPod as FAT32 for use on Windows machines and another to convert a Windows one to work with OS X.
The 3G iPods are 'all the same' - there aren't seperate boxes. My understanding is that they ship formmated as HFS+ by default and will automagically configure themselves for Windows use if it detects that it's connected to an x86 machine. The macintosh instruction manual says
step 1: Plug the firewire dock connector end of the cable into the dock (or ipod if you have a 10gb)
step 2: Plug the firewire end of the cable into your mac
step 3: "there is no step 3" (actually it's just wait)
the windows instructions look a lot more complex (though I didn't read them). There are drivers to install, and the ipod has to charge up and there is a bunch of junk you're supposed to do. I imagine somewhere in there the ipod gets formated (by itself or otherwise)
My 3G 30gb iPod is listed as an HFS+ (not journalled) Firewire drive in disk manager.
With FAT32, and rev1.3 firmware, he got it working with iTunes. So much for "broken". User problem
I guess they are going to let people think this eh?
Works like a gem on my XP/1st Gen iPod.
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