Music labels monitor P2P nets to list most popular songs
Posted by Daniel Fleshbourne on 18 November 2003 - 12:02 · 10 comments & 1451 views
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#1 Posted by Jedimark on 18 Nov 2003 - 12:39
- Haha... they're all hypocrits in the music industry.
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#2 Posted by NateZ on 18 Nov 2003 - 12:39
- lol - i wonder if they are just going to watch the music, or everything else too? lol - pr0n will come out on top most likely.
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#3 Posted by aristofeles on 18 Nov 2003 - 12:52
- A better view (Wired, October): http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.10/fileshare.html
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#4 Posted by Garrett Socling on 18 Nov 2003 - 13:37
- The RIAA has obviously been correct in saying for a while now :
There are absolutely no legitimate uses for P2P software or networks, and they should be shut down immediately...
...hah...
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#5 Posted by mrbester on 18 Nov 2003 - 16:11
QUOTE It alleges that BigChampagne's snooping system violates its own intellectual property.
Well, they do have a point. How has this data been collected? What interception has occurred and where in order to get the download counts? If you have a download request, you have a source and a destination to go with it. Although they say "we haven't helped the Recording Industry Ass. of America (RIAA) identify file-sharers for the purpose of suing them", they could be subpoena'd to provide this data. In any case, it's a license to print money as even if they don't like the distribution method, the record companies can't afford to pass up this kind of demographic.
QUOTE The irony of the allegation can't have been lost on any of the parties concerned
As far as irony goes, it doesn't exist. If it had been the RIAA who had done the snooping, the irony would be present. In this case, it's a third party hacking network traffic and selling the proceeds.-
#5.1 Posted by rogerroger on 18 Nov 2003 - 18:57
- The irony mr bester (you Babylon 5 fan!) is that this company, Altnet, is suing because of violations of its own intellectual property (or so they claim). This is the same thing RIAA is suing people for. Violations of intellectual property!
I just that this was hilarious!
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#6 Posted by Mr. Black on 18 Nov 2003 - 17:29
- I don't understand how they get on the networks to do this -- they would have to have in-depth knowledge of operation of the network, the protocols used, etc. to "track" what people are searching for.
Why Kazaa/Sharman doesn't put a stop to this by doing something makes me see them as a company that plainly doesn't care. -
#6.1 Posted by theprotege on 19 Nov 2003 - 13:24
- just a theory, but who do you think pays for the servers, bandwidth. and services of a P2P network? the P2P company? your imaginary friend? maybe its paid for by someone like BigChampagne, whos paid by someone else to run stats for someone else who wants to know what you/I/your imaginary friend likes, is interested in?
i'm no rocket scientist...but use your brain. and really, do you have anything worry about if you aren't infringing on copyrights? no... Should you be worried about your privacy? ...were you forced to download and install said program? were you given the option to avoid or participate any snoopings, ip logging, habit/taste-tracking analysis? did you pay for said service? ...my guess is no...so you don't have any say so in what goes on when you use the service. chew on that a while einstein...
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#7 Posted by Saadu on 18 Nov 2003 - 18:47
QUOTE It also states that it hasn't helped the Recording Industry Ass. of America (RIAA) identify file-sharers for the purpose of suing them.
Somehow i find the above sentense
to read.
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#8 Posted by ghos on 18 Nov 2003 - 22:55
- hmm was the shortening of Association done that way on purpose? hehe
Garland's organisation measures how frequently clients' artists are listed in searches conducted on the P2P networks, including Kazaa and Altnet. It also tracks how often clients' songs are downloaded. The company's actions have led to accusations that it is infringing P2P users' privacy - though how anyone illegally distributing copyright material can complain about that is hard to see. BigChampagne denies the allegation. It also states that it hasn't helped the Recording Industry Ass. of America (RIAA) identify file-sharers for the purpose of suing them.
That hasn't stopped Altnet threatening to take legal action of its own. It alleges that BigChampagne's snooping system violates its own intellectual property. The irony of the allegation can't have been lost on any of the parties concerned.
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