Beta Test Windows Security Update CD for Win9X
Posted by Daniel Fleshbourne on 26 November 2003 - 08:52 · 23 comments & 1304 views
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#1 Posted by philmcneal on 26 Nov 2003 - 08:57
- wow i thought ms thought supporting dos windows systems.
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#2 Posted by params on 26 Nov 2003 - 09:07
- Why has this been posted on the frontpage including the guest ID when the e-mail says confidential and has already been removed from BPN?
How about some consistency!
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#3 Posted by levijay on 26 Nov 2003 - 09:09
QUOTE PLEASE DO NOT FORWARD THIS LETTER BEYOND YOUR MAILBOX.
This information is confidential.
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#3.2 Posted by AquaDex on 26 Nov 2003 - 10:34
- I bet you will never get accepted if you're not in the Windows Update v4 Beta anyways (but I don't know if they will blacklist anyone who register with that guest ID and not supposed to get the ID)
Mr magoo
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#4 Posted by Gary_Player on 26 Nov 2003 - 09:31
- I thought that they wernt going to support these older products anymore? They cut 95 off like 4 years ago, You'd think 98 would have followed. I guess cause of all the worms going around they're souping security up again but still...
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#4.1 Posted by Skyfrog on 26 Nov 2003 - 10:55
- I thought that just meant you couldn't call them and get tech support on those products anymore. A lot of people are still running 98, so not providing critical updates would be kind of stupid of them. You can still go to Windows Update with Windows 98 and download all of the existing updates, so why not make them available on CD also.
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#4.2 Posted by gameguy on 26 Nov 2003 - 18:41
- hotfixes are included in what microsoft calls "support". the reason 98 is supported and 95 isn't is because 95 has reached EOL (end of life) while 98 hasn't. win98 will reach EOL next year i think, and hopefully they'll make an exception for windows me and cancel it early
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#5 Posted by AquaDex on 26 Nov 2003 - 10:32
- NOW Microsoft would be all pissed (Well it's iexbeta anyways... I bet Microsoft is always pissed at them
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#6 Posted by Mr. Black on 26 Nov 2003 - 13:08
- Neowin cuts off threads that don't deserve to be cut off in the forums, yet they post confidential information from Microsoft AND Beta Login ID's.
Tisk...
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#6.2 Posted by FlishFun on 26 Nov 2003 - 13:29
- Exactly. It appears that iexbeta will be the one in trouble over this.
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#7 Posted by Davey on 26 Nov 2003 - 13:53
- No, a member here posted a thread about his and was grilled for it which to me was absolutely stupid.
Funny thing is, a mod closed the thread and yet Admin posts it on main news.
To me, i see no reason why not to post it on main news, since it is a guest ID.
Also, you can bitch all you want about the information contained in the email should not be forwarded beyond the recipients mailbox. Now forwarding to me means email forwarding. Doesnt mean copying the text by other means.
And also, some people should just lighten up and get laid FFS.
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#8 Posted by XtremeX on 26 Nov 2003 - 14:02
- PLEASE DO NOT FORWARD THIS LETTER BEYOND YOUR MAILBOX.
This information is confidential.
Just like it says you could at least respect Microsoft on this one, but no one does now a days huh. If you were supposed to get the e-mail you would have otherwise stay out.
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#9 Posted by XP-RTM on 26 Nov 2003 - 14:07
- the link is wrong lol BERTAPLACE.COM hahaha
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#10 Posted by dougkinzinger on 26 Nov 2003 - 14:38
- this is one that i'm not signing up for.....9x? Come on!
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#11 Posted by Sim31 on 26 Nov 2003 - 16:28
QUOTE do you not want us to post the beta ids?
You all are just promoting the guest id more. Wouldent blame it all on ieXbeta's fault.
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#12 Posted by Ficman on 26 Nov 2003 - 19:16
- Linke for BetaPlace points to www.bertaplace.com
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#13 Posted by Gary_Player on 27 Nov 2003 - 01:43
- I got the letter but I dont have any machines running 9x anymore
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#14 Posted by ben_b on 27 Nov 2003 - 04:40
- Sent this e-mail to Microsoft BetaPlace...
"Do you mind if the beta invitations are posted on news sites as long as they do not include any guest ids? By the way the Beta Test Windows Security Update CD for Win9X has been posted at http://board.iexbeta.com/ibf10/index.php?s=d85f901e22e93b5aa3d0976edb7fdf12&showtopic=34116 and http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?id=15413&category=main. Maybe a set of rules posted on the front page of the beta place is in need, that tells use everything we can and can't do."
...and got this responce....
"Hello Ben. Thank you for your message.
Any information regarding our beta programs as governed by the End User Licensing Agreement that you acceded to prior to becoming a technical tester for Microsoft cannot be disclosed to outside parties without the written consent of Microsoft. Please refer to the following excerpt below for guidance. Furthermore, we have forwarded that website to the Windows Update Product team for further investigation. We appreciate your interest and help in testing Microsoft Products.
CONFIDENTIALITY. The Product, including its existence and features, and related information are proprietary and confidential information to Microsoft and its suppliers. Recipient agrees not to disclose or provide the Product, documentation, or any related information (including the Product features or the results of use or testing) to any third party, for a period of one year following receipt of the Product (if the Product is a Desktop OS Product) or until commercial release of the Product, whichever occurs first; provided that thereafter, if the Product is not a Desktop OS Product, Recipient agrees not to disclose or provide to any third party any information that has not been made public by Microsoft as of the commercial release of the applicable Software or Hardware. However, Recipient may disclose confidential information in accordance with judicial or other governmental order, provided Recipient shall give Microsoft reasonable written notice prior to such disclosure and shall comply with any applicable protective order or equivalent. Further, Recipient shall not be liable to Microsoft for disclosure of information which Recipient can prove (a) is already known to Recipient without an obligation to maintain the same as confidential; (b) becomes publicly known through no wrongful act of Recipient; (c) is rightfully received from a third party without breach of an obligation of confidentiality owed to Microsoft; or (d) is independently developed by Recipient."
Microsoft would like to invite you to participate in the Windows Security Update beta program. Microsoft is considering developing a CD that will provide the critical security updates found on the Windows Update website for computers running Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, Windows ME (Millennium Edition). This security update CD will be of special benefit to customers with slow internet connections and for those customers who typically do not visit the Microsoft website to download updates for their computers. For preliminary testing, we would like to ensure that the older machines, specifically those running Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition & Windows ME (Millennium Edition) installed, will be compatible with all of the critical security updates included on the CD. To accomplish this, we would appreciate your assistance in participating in our one time beta program.
Our goal is to have a well targeted group of testers willing to actively participate and provide useful feedback to our development team. Your feedback will be critical to the success of our product. If you are interested in participating, please use this special guest account below to access a nomination survey on http://www.BetaPlace.com.
Guest Beta ID: betaupdate
The Beta Nomination Survey will be available until Friday December 5th.
What's New in This Release:
· Fixed bug with VMR9 and Windows Media files
· If mouse button was assigned to some action it didn't always work, fixed
· Fixed bug with Overlay mixer (black screen)
· Winamp DSP plugins didn't load if audio stream was changed, fixed
· Audio output device selection wasn't remembered, fixed
· Fixed some problems with frame capture
· Mouse cursor sometimes didn't dissapear in full screen mode, fixed
· Fixed some problems with multi monitors
· If video window was left on secondary monitor, position wasn't remembered, fixed
· Fixed problem with volume and track button in some skins
· Some other bug fixes
· Changed subtitle loading rules, now subtitle with the same name as movie will be always loaded first
· Support for subtitles in OGG files is back, also subtitles in Matroska files are suppported now (UTF8)
· It's now possible to assign different keys for full screen and windowed mode
· Added option to assign two keys to every action
· Added fast forward and fast rewind options