Intel dual core desktop chip to arrive 2005
Posted by Daniel Fleshbourne on 26 November 2003 - 15:12 · 21 comments & 912 views
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#1 Posted by DjmUK on 26 Nov 2003 - 15:45
- Now that's nice, but the question is; will it have:
- Dual ALU's on 1 chip
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- Dual Processors on 1 chip
The reason I ask is that some supercomputers use one and others use the other. I've learnt a little about Dual Core's on my last course and all I can say is - HELL YEAH..! and a lot earlier than I predicted. It was evident that Intel/AMD would copy current supercomputer architecture designs, and it's a good move.
The other question is; will the IBM PowerPC chips also adopt these multiple cores because they're also moving to 65nm tech in a couple of years, so we may see a G6/7 chip with dual cores too.
All in all, good news - all we can do now is speculate the prices of them
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#1.1 Posted by VikingStorm on 26 Nov 2003 - 16:33
- I don't remember for sure, but I think IBM already displayed a multi-core PowerPC chip a few months ago.
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#1.2 Posted by xStainDx on 26 Nov 2003 - 17:23
- Dual Core should be 2 Processors on 1 CPU. Like HyperThreading only that these will be physical processors.
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#1.3 Posted by roadwarrior on 26 Nov 2003 - 19:37
QUOTE (#1.1) I don't remember for sure, but I think IBM already displayed a multi-core PowerPC chip a few months ago.
Yep, it was a dual core Power5 - and likely to be the basis of the next Apple machines (if we are lucky). Motorola also seems to have a dual core version of the G4 in the works (see here). An older article talks about it as well http://www.creativepro.com/story/feature/18074-2.html-
#1.4 Posted by DjmUK on 26 Nov 2003 - 23:58
- That's right, I remember now - that picture the size of the palm of a hand had 8 cores on the processor. But 8 is a bit too expensive, so 2 cores on a single piece should be great.
Just think, HyperThreading on dual cores...Windows/Mac OS would see the processor as 4 seperate ones (2 physical/4 virtual).
Oh god, I just realised, Apple loves Dual CPU machines (PowerMac G5), so if they both had dual cores and HyperThreading enabled, then that would be 4 physical cores/8 virtual cores. Now that would be nice. I can't remember what Apple calls their version of HT (HyperTransport..? or is that the comms layer between the components...much like the FSB). -
#1.5 Posted by JohnsonBox on 27 Nov 2003 - 19:08
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As I guessed, Single Core means there is 1 CPU in a chip , while Dual Core means there are 2 CPU in a chip. Right?
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#2 Posted by SimplyPotatoes on 26 Nov 2003 - 15:46
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#3 Posted by Coolme on 26 Nov 2003 - 15:51
- Can't wait 4 this.
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#4 Posted by slapnuts_ox on 26 Nov 2003 - 17:46
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#5 Posted by shafi on 26 Nov 2003 - 18:03
- what is dual core ??
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#5.1 Posted by roadwarrior on 26 Nov 2003 - 19:41
- Dual core means two physical processors within a single chip. The communication between them is much faster than two seperate processors.
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#5.2 Posted by JohnsonBox on 27 Nov 2003 - 19:03
- Does the processor you mentioned mean "central processing unit"?
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#6 Posted by figgy on 26 Nov 2003 - 18:07
- So hyperthreading is not dual core. Huh?
I am confused.
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#6.1 Posted by Dessimat0r on 26 Nov 2003 - 18:28
- No, it is not, Hyperthreading is meant to make use of currently unused circuitry on a chip by making the operating system think there are two processors.
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#6.2 Posted by riahc3 on 26 Nov 2003 - 19:40
- Hypertheading = There are 2 software rendered virtual processors on a 1 processor chip
Dual Core = There are 2 HARDWARE PHYSICAL processors on one chip
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#7 Posted by VikingStorm on 27 Nov 2003 - 04:08
- Microsoft better not make people license dual-cores as two CPUs...
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#8 Posted by ishtar on 27 Nov 2003 - 11:55
- Yea its intels way to make you think your getting more for your money by snookering people into buying them.
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#9 Posted by redFX on 27 Nov 2003 - 13:07
- Sun showcased that they were going to do 32 core CPUs. Man, multicore is going to be interesting.
Wonder if you get a 100% boost for the additional core or if its something like 50% like a normal dual cpu machine
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#10 Posted by Jeffsoft on 29 Nov 2003 - 06:49
is this what they gonna do?
headed for multi-core CPU , when they coudlnt increase thefrequency anymore...
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With die sizes getting ever so small now, its all beginning to make some kind of sense. And of course AMD has indicated that its going to introduce dual core chips too, along with Sun and the world/dog.
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