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Microsoft -- No security bulletins for December

Daniel Fleshbourne   on 09 December 2003 - 18:24 · 42 comments & 9958 views

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From Technet webcast event email update
Thank you for your interest in tomorrow’s December 10, 2003, Technet Security Webcast: “Information about Microsoft’s December Security Bulletins” – THIS EVENT HAS BEEN CANCELLED due to the fact that Microsoft currently has no security bulletins to release as part of the monthly release cycle for the month of December.

In Microsoft's own words:
"In response to extensive customer feedback, Microsoft is implementing changes in the way security bulletins are released. These changes will help enhance the manageability and predictability of the patch management process for customers. Security bulletins will normally be released on the second calendar Tuesday of every month. However, the first monthly bulletins will be released on Wednesday, October 15, 2003."

That would be fine if there were no any outstanding issues...

...but there are - A CHINESE RESEARCHER has discovered 7 new security holes in Internet Explorer and Microsoft is looking into them, or perhaps through them. According to Russ Cooper of TruSecure, two of the holes are critical vulnerabilities which could permit an attacker to remotely execute malicious programs.

So taking those issues into account Microsoft's new strategy seems to be don't release any updates. As usual we will investigate further to see what Microsoft has to say about the matter.

Update: You can give your response to this situation directly to Microsoft. Mike Nash, Vice President of Microsoft's Security Business Unit (SBU), invites you to join him for a one hour discussion on security issues with Microsoft products. Come and let Mike know the issues you are facing and ask questions about what Microsoft is doing to improve security in our products on December 11, 2003 10:00 A.M. Pacific time

Download: Chat: Trustworthy Computing with Mike Nash Event Reminder
View: Windows takes seven spots in Symantec's top 10 November flaws
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Ongoing concerns over the security and reporting features of e-voting machines have cast a cloud of uncertainty over the upcoming election season, forcing ballot machine vendors to address a host of complaints over their products amid signs of an escalating voter backlash.

The affected companies say the weaknesses that have been identified to date aren't insurmountable, and most said they expect to fix them on time to meet the HAVA deadlines. But the biggest problem facing e-voting machine vendors may turn out to be political rather than technical, as belated resistance to e-voting systems mounts.

Individual counties in the United States have used electronic voting machines for years, but many voters have only learned about the potential hazards of e-voting recently, through the missteps of one company: Diebold Election Systems of North Canton, Ohio. The company has become a lightning rod for criticism following partisan political statements by its chief executive and revelations of security flaws within its flagship product.

"I think it's been a year of widespread awakening among the American public about the risks of computerized voting," said Kim Alexander, founder and president of the California Voter Foundation. "A huge movement has developed across the nation, with citizen activists joining computer scientists, academics, lawyers, and nonprofits to demand verifiable voting systems."

Get it on paper

Renewed uneasiness over e-voting technology is manifesting itself in new security audits and demands for paper-based recount safeguards. In recent weeks, four states representing nearly a fifth of the U.S. population--California, Maryland, Nevada and Ohio--have taken official steps to re-evaluate the systems or require paper trails.

California enacted a rule that will require the use of a voter-verified paper copy. Ohio commissioned reports detailing security risks of major e-voting machine vendors.

Maryland ordered new reviews of voting machines scheduled for use in its March primary as state senators called for the implementation of paper verification systems. And Nevada awaits the analysis by its gambling auditors of e-voting machines while the secretary of state brings the e-vote debate to the voters in the form of town-hall meetings.

This week, Ohio's secretary of state demanded security fixes from electronic voting machine vendors, and released two reports that detail their shortcomings.

Diebold Election Systems representative David Bear said the surge in scrutiny of e-voting issues was the result of HAVA.

"I would say I think there's heightened awareness as a result of HAVA," Bear said. "All the states are addressing the issue of how they're going to come into HAVA compliance and, doing the right thing, they're involving the general public in that process. Most people did not think about elections except for the dedicated folks who work on election day or day in and day out as elections officers. But the Florida (2000) vote and the subsequent HAVA act put a spotlight on this as an issue."

But others, including Alexander, said the current hand-wringing may have as much to do with high-profile gaffes by Diebold as it does with deadline jitters.

Diebold, which has deployed 33,000 touch-screen voting machines in the United States, first gained notoriety after its chief executive wrote in an August fund-raising letter that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to (President Bush) next year."

Asked about the August fund-raising letter, Bear referred a reporter to a news report posted to the company's Web site, in which Diebold CEO Walden O'Dell pledged to curtail his political activities as a result of the controversy.

"I'm not doing anything wrong or complicated, but it obviously did leave me open to the criticism I've received," O'Dell told the Cleveland Plain Dealer. "I've taken it personally; it's very painful, it may have injured our company, and I feel really badly about that."

A month earlier, university researchers failed Diebold machines in a security audit. And last month California launched an investigation after it was alleged that state-uncertified software had been inserted into Diebold machines in Alameda County--a violation, if true, of California election law.

The company earned another sustained round of bad press after it threatened copyright infringement lawsuits against Internet service providers whose subscribers had posted damaging internal e-mail correspondence that called into question the company's security practices.

Faced with a lawsuit by an ISP and subscribers it had threatened, along with a barrage of news reports that further publicized the e-mails' internal gripes about Diebold security, the company backed off the copyright threats--but not before Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich, who is seeking the Democratic Party's presidential nomination, called for a congressional investigation of Diebold.

Assessing the risks

Diebold is not alone in fending off criticism of e-voting's alleged shortfalls in advance of the HAVA deadlines.

Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell on Tuesday published two previously confidential reports: the DRE (direct recording electronic) Security Assessment report commissioned from Raleigh, N.C.-based InfoSentry, and a Technical Security Assessment Report the state commissioned from Detroit, Mich.-based Compuware.

The Compuware report identified 57 potential security risks of varying severity in four different systems.

Blackwell said he would request a deadline extension to comply with the federal Help America Vote Act (HAVA) so that vendors would have time to fix problems with their machines.

"I will not place these voting devices before Ohio's voters until identified risks are corrected and system security is bolstered," Blackwell said in a statement. "Fortunately, all of the documented risks will be expeditiously corrected by each of our voting machine manufacturers."

Ohio had intended to start using electronic voting machines in March, but Blackwell now wants to wait until August special elections.

Meanwhile, the four vendors surveyed in both reports will have to prepare for another round of inspections by the consultants. In some cases, the secretary of state said, changes in the software will require new certification by the state and federal governments.

The Ohio studies examined three voting systems in addition to Diebold's AccuVote-TS: Election Systems and Software's iVotronic, Hart InterCivic's eSlate 3000, and Sequoia Voting Systems' AVC Edge. All four passed a summer evaluation process by the state that examined the companies and their products, with the caveat that they would have to undergo subsequent security evaluations.

Provided that the system vendors pass another security audit, Ohio counties will be able to consider them.

In response to the publication of Ohio's reports, Diebold said it had already fixed the problems in response to similar complaints by the state of Maryland.

"The areas identified by the secretary of state are the same types of items that were identified and addressed by Diebold Election Systems in Maryland," Mark Radke, director of voting industry for Diebold, said in a statement. "We are confident that the mitigation actions we will take--which have already been used in municipal Maryland elections--will achieve the secretary of state's goals and provide accurate and reliable election results."

Sequoia also said it was well on its way to satisfying Ohio's demands.

"We've already made a number of the recommended changes," Sequoia spokesman Alfie Charles said in an interview. "And we'll be making the balance of them and welcome the secretary's leadership in conducting that type of review so that the entire industry can give voters the confidence they need in their voting technology."

ES&S issued a statement that said it was still analyzing the reports but was confident it could resolve the problems they identified before Ohio's special elections in August 2004. A representative of Hart InterCivic said the company was "pleased to address" risks identified in the reports, while noting that the bulk of problems reported about its systems were deemed "low risk."

"We're working on plans to address them, and it's our intention to be substantially more aggressive in this area than the reports would require," company representative Bill Stotesbery said.

In Carson City, Nev., Secretary of State Heller was preparing on Thursday to conduct a Washoe County town hall meeting with elections officials to address voters' concerns about the machines. In the coming week the state will choose between Sequoia and Diebold machines. Counties that prefer Diebold are wrangling with Clark County--home to Las Vegas and 70 percent of Nevada's population--which has been using Sequoia machines for 10 years.

To help sort through the security analysis, Heller has asked the state's Gaming Control Board to offer its opinion of the machines and expects to get the results of that survey in the next few days.

"There's not a whole lot of people smarter at stopping hacking than in the gaming industry," observed Steve George, a representative for the secretary of state.

In California, Secretary of State Kevin Shelley set a July 2006 deadline for all counties and cities to provide touch-screen voting systems that provide what is known as a voter verified paper audit trail. The paper receipt is meant as a safeguard in case questions are raised about the validity of an electronic vote. Under the policy, counties and cities will be prohibited from buying systems without the paper audit trail starting July 1, 2005.

Paper verification has become a rallying cry for technology watchdog groups and voting rights advocates, who cheered Shelley's decision.

"The recent decision by our secretary of state to require voter-verified paper trails no later than 2006 is a sign we've turned a corner," said CalVoter's Alexander. "And I think and hope that other states will look at California's decision as a sign of where the technology is going, and will follow our lead."

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#1 vetMr magoo on 09 Dec 2003 - 18:30
For all people i interested about finding out about this stuff - i suggest you sign up for the Full - Disclosure mailing list.

http://lists.netsys.com/mailman/listinfo/full-disclosure
(1 reply) #2 Thalid on 09 Dec 2003 - 18:32
maybe no security related but. But what about the bug that windows can take 3-5 min too shutdown (mean the bug where thay was gonna but the longhorn files)
#2.1 Mike Dimmick on 09 Dec 2003 - 22:06
Known problem: if a program has a registry key open, Windows cannot unload your profile. It keeps trying for quite some time. It normally means that a service program has done this, because user processes are either closed gracefully or terminated before the session is ended.

If this is Windows 2000, it might be due to changing printer settings - upgrade to SP4 if you haven't already done so.
(1 reply) #3 OptiPlex on 09 Dec 2003 - 20:30
WTF????
#3.1 leebobs on 10 Dec 2003 - 22:03
Maybe, this means everyone is working on SP2 and not on patches??? Maybe they have skipped a month to close the Patches contained in SP2???
#4 brew crew on 09 Dec 2003 - 20:46
figures
(1 reply) #5 xStainDx on 09 Dec 2003 - 20:48
No Security Issues. wow.
#5.1 Voodoo on 09 Dec 2003 - 20:51
your out of a job now
(3 replies) #6 VikingStorm on 09 Dec 2003 - 20:51
Bravo Microsoft... Bravo...
#6.1 roadwarrior on 10 Dec 2003 - 01:26
Bravo?? You are cheering them for NOT releasing any security updates when there are KNOWN security problems?
#6.2 memodude on 10 Dec 2003 - 02:25
...sarcasm?
#6.3 Godzilla on 10 Dec 2003 - 10:36
...idiocy
#7 xGarrett on 09 Dec 2003 - 21:00
Hurry! Someone! Make a virus!
#8 chadknight on 09 Dec 2003 - 21:06
[COLOR=gray][SIZE=7]Okay, so let me get this straight if I have done all my security updates and so on and so forth, then I have nothing to fear from the internet at large? I really cannot believe that. SO is Bill going to upload a super virus into all our computers on Christmas? Oh wait Longhorn does not come out till 2005!
(10 replies) #9 ChefJoe on 09 Dec 2003 - 22:15
Great, I've been waiting for a fix to this annoying bug introduced by their bugfix.

http://forums.winxpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=7807&foo=New%20Microsoft%20Patches%20Causing%20Problems.%2011--17

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1382912,00.asp

The Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer, which addresses numerous security flaws in Internet Explorer 6, introduces bugs involving the scrollbar. After the patch is applied, the page scrolls up or down twice when the user clicks once in the empty areas of the scrollbar. Clicking on the scrollbar arrows or dragging the scrollbar thumb works correctly.
#9.1 gameguy on 09 Dec 2003 - 23:15
i just tried this, and indeed it does happen the way you say. but i happen to like it and find it more as a feature instead of a bug. it's more like a "scroll to here" click than a "scroll down" click...
#9.2 WishX on 10 Dec 2003 - 00:01
Microsoft is touting this as a "revamped undocumented feature", not a bug. That is, they meant to do it. Yes, I know its annoying... but they wanted it that way so they changed it.
#9.3 rseiler on 10 Dec 2003 - 01:28
Exactly where did MS "tout" this? The only comment I've seen on the matter is in the support newsgroups, where all they say is that they're aware of it and looking into it. There is absolutely no way MS is silently going to refine the way scrollbars have worked since the 1980's in a security update. It couldn't have been intentional, and logic dictates it will be fixed.
#9.4 gameguy on 10 Dec 2003 - 06:16
no i actually like this
#9.5 rseiler on 10 Dec 2003 - 06:32
It doesn't matter. It's inherently confusing (waaaaaay too subtle to be blindsided by) and a support nightmare to make a change like this. They might make it optional, but not mandatory.
#9.6 Jon on 10 Dec 2003 - 11:04
If that is confusing your users, then I suggest training is required. A scroll bar isn't a tricky thing to use.
#9.7 roadwarrior on 10 Dec 2003 - 12:32
QUOTE (#9.6)
If that is confusing your users, then I suggest training is required. A scroll bar isn't a tricky thing to use.


But when the way it works CHANGES after working the same way for years, that can easily confuse people.
#9.8 Jon on 10 Dec 2003 - 15:53
I honestly think if a user can't adapt to something so simple then maybe they should be working at McDonalds, but I see your point.
#9.9 ChefJoe on 10 Dec 2003 - 20:14
If they redesigned it to be a "scroll to here" feature, fine... I'd accept that. The trick is that if you have a really long page (this one for example) and you click in a blank scroll area far below the scroll bar (draggable part) it used to jump just far enough that you could continue reading (a la "page down". Now, it doesn't scroll as far as where you clicked, it just scrolls as if you did two of the previous operations (2 "page downs".

From the eweek site's links to additional issues :

QUOTE
Ok, I've got one to add to the known scroll bar / double
scroll problem, that's nearly as annoying.
Now, when you have selected (say, for copying) some text
on a web page with the mouse, and then use the mouse to
move the scrollbar, the selected text becomes unselected!
Used to be that you could scroll twelve pages down and
back up, and the text would still be "blue".


ALSO
QUOTE

After installing IE update Q824145 I get an 'Access
Denied' error message when using the window resizeBy,
resizeTo, moveBy or moveTo functions. Before this update
they worked fine. To recreate load the following HTML
page in your browser, put focus in the text object, and
then click on the button. No error occurs if you tab onto
the button first and then click it.
#9.10 rseiler on 10 Dec 2003 - 20:55
Agreed: It's not what people think what it is, and when factoring in the couple other side-effects of the update (which can't possibly be construed as intentional), we have more evidence of it simply being a bug. Not to mention that this new behavior doesn't even apply to all Windows applications. That cinches it.
(1 reply) #10 Mike Dimmick on 09 Dec 2003 - 22:18
Did anyone actually try the Chinese researcher's seven exploits?

If they're the ones Secunia are reporting, note that this page hasn't been updated since early October. I just tried it now with last month's patch [824145] applied (IE 6.0 on XP SP1) and none of the exploits work.

Maybe they do work in other versions, but not this one.
#10.1 Mike Dimmick on 09 Dec 2003 - 22:55
Replying to my own comment: there were more vulnerabilities that I missed before. Some of these exploits still work.
#11 Mr. Black on 10 Dec 2003 - 01:55
With all the holes you have to be kidding...
(4 replies) #12 Dwarden on 10 Dec 2003 - 06:31
Nah someone should made virus thru these holes which is doing something usefull (like calculating seti@home, primes, folding, ud or similar) ... just imagine that millions infected computers DOING something usefull for humanity ... instead of just crashing em all the day ...
#12.1 Jon on 10 Dec 2003 - 11:05
As I keep telling people, MSBlast wasn't written to reboot PCs, that was an unwanted side effect.
#12.2 werejag on 10 Dec 2003 - 11:24
just imagine that millions infected computers DOING something usefull for humanity, like maybe catolog all our porn, or find travel info to starbucks.
#12.3 roadwarrior on 10 Dec 2003 - 12:30
QUOTE (#12.1)
As I keep telling people, MSBlast wasn't written to reboot PCs, that was an unwanted side effect.


How would you know what the intentions of the MSBlast writers were? Did you write it? Even so, just because one virus wasn't intended to crash (note, no one said "reboot" conputers, doesn't mean others weren't.
#12.4 Jon on 10 Dec 2003 - 13:42
QUOTE
How would you know what the intentions of the MSBlast writers were? Did you write it?


Common sense and research.
(1 reply) #13 cork1958 on 10 Dec 2003 - 14:03
No security fixes? Why am I seeing this, Security Update for Windows XP KB810217 on 2 of my systems, that I've been on since yesterday. Then there is NO page found referencing the KB number? I think I'm seeing right?!!
I have Windows XP Pro and there is a Microsoft Frontpage folder in my programs folder. Have never even looked at it, until just now. Granted, not much of an update, but............

Last edited by 17953 on 10 Dec 2003 - 14:46
#13.1 Thalid on 10 Dec 2003 - 17:01
searcred ms and nothning on 810217
#14 forster on 10 Dec 2003 - 14:51
AAARR ME HARTIES...

Microsoft should walk the plank !!!
(1 reply) #15 Midnight Mick on 10 Dec 2003 - 17:58
I HATE STICKY NEWS!!!
I thought Neowin hadn't posted anything else for the last day... !
#15.1 oggiethefroggie on 10 Dec 2003 - 23:05
same...
(2 replies) #16 mtnsteve on 10 Dec 2003 - 18:55
I just got a Security Update for Windows XP (vanilla version) KB810217

Seems to be FrontPage Server Extensions thingy


#16.1 HoriZon-UK on 10 Dec 2003 - 20:01
I to have this now showing on "windows update" what is it ? I don't use FrontPage server extensions?

I also had a WI-FI update as well but it wasn't critical and I don't have WI-Fi.
#16.2 RickFriedman on 10 Dec 2003 - 20:59
Apparently, it's a legitimate update. The same questions were raised about it today on the microsoft.public.windowsupdate newsgroup. A rep from Microsoft answered the questions saying:

"Yesterday we made changes to the detection for this update and that's why Windows Update is offering the update today."

If you have the file:

Crogram FilesCommon FilesMicrosoft Sharedweb server extensions40binfp4autl.dll

then you need the update.

Before I ran the update, I had version 4.0.2.6513 of this file. After running the update, I had version 4.0.2.7523.

Rick
#17 Darken on 10 Dec 2003 - 23:50
QUOTE
A CHINESE RESEARCHER has discovered 7 new security holes in Internet Explorer


Solution: Mozilla

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