Windows Update V5 is alive
Posted by Steven Parker on 16 December 2003 - 20:12 · 58 comments & 5559 views
No I don't mean that dumb looking robot in "Short Circuit" 1, 2 and was there ever a 3? its the other artificial intelligence that updates you're equally artificial Windows installations. Currently its being targeted at Windows XP, making the recent year or so of doom-speak by hounds at The Register and its peers that MS is dumping its predecessors faster than yesterdays evening meal in the can more true than it was when it was predicted.

Beta testers who cared to fill out surveys, call in favors and badger people who "know how to get you on betas" can now login to BetaPlace and look at the program they shouldn't be able to get at present because Windows Update V5 requires SP2 (which no squeaky clean beta tester should have) however if you are a long term reader of Neowin, you probably downloaded a SP2 months ago, it hasn't been updated much since then as the official beta (just added on BetaPlace within the last week or so) still needs to get off the ground with more than the red bolded text on its program page saying "Yes, I would like to participate!"

Anyway there are some notes for the unlucky ones who didn't get on the beta in Read More, comment, tell all your friends or share how wonderful Microsoft really is but please, don't bother asking how to get SP2 because we aren't allowed to tell you. Thanks Gott for this exclusive news.

View: BetaPlace new url!
View: Windows Update V5 (may require BetaPlace BetaID)

Windows Update is aiming to keep all your Microsoft products secure and up to date. Initially, Windows Update will offer patches for Windows, etc.

Having customers test pre-released versions of Windows Update in their environments is critical to the product’s success. It also enables you to provide invaluable input on all facets of the product during its development cycle, thereby helping to ensure the final release meets your needs.

The releases:
    Beta
  • Primary goals: Get feedback on the full set of features and find bugs
  • Release date: Late 2003 along with Windows XP SP2 Beta program
  • Target: Initially, Windows Update v5 site is for Windows XP Home/Pro. users only
  • Pre-released versions of Windows Update V5 will be made available to program participants through links from this site. You will be notified via e-mail and the newsgroup when they are available.


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(3 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #1 Posted by AdamField on 16 Dec 2003 - 20:20
Hmmm

get a 404 error on new betaplace URL
Quote this comment #1.1 Posted by Neobond on 16 Dec 2003 - 20:22
Your ISP hasn't updated DNS yet, the new url went online yesterday.. Updates can take 48 hours
Quote this comment #1.2 Posted by AdamField on 16 Dec 2003 - 23:03
Doesnt work by IP either

Plus beta.microsoft.com has been directed at betaplace for the last week
Quote this comment #1.3 Posted by ben_b on 17 Dec 2003 - 15:41
Not any more, look at betaplace.com.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #2 Posted by leebobs on 16 Dec 2003 - 20:21
Added to The SP2 Thread
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #3 Posted by Fredde87 on 16 Dec 2003 - 20:25
Hmm url to version 5 just redirects you to version 4...
Quote this comment #3.1 Posted by Neobond on 16 Dec 2003 - 20:27
it does if you don't have the correct versions.. XP + SP2 and possibly a redirector from BetaPlace.
Quote this comment #3.2 Posted by ben_b on 17 Dec 2003 - 15:44
And how is it that I missed SP2? I read Neowin daily.
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #4 Posted by leebobs on 16 Dec 2003 - 20:29
Service Pack 2 hasn't officially gone out to Beta testers. Therefore, I am thinking that it has gone out internally in Microsoft & MSDN?!?!?

Beta out Tomroz...
Quote this comment #4.1 Posted by vetRadish™ on 16 Dec 2003 - 20:36
Don't think MSDN subscribers will get it until their quarterly shipment arrives, unlike the official beta testers.

Microsoft started from scratch with SP2 after the others got leaked so a decent build is likely at Microsoft internally, I wonder if we'll get that

Radish™
Quote this comment #4.2 Posted by nowimnothing on 16 Dec 2003 - 21:18
definitely isn't listed for MSDN downloads or anything.. i doubt we'd see it until the official release to be honest.
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #5 Posted by vetRadish™ on 16 Dec 2003 - 20:32
Everything is working well here

Radish™
Quote this comment #5.1 Posted by leebobs on 16 Dec 2003 - 20:34
Git
Quote this comment #5.2 Posted by dougkinzinger on 16 Dec 2003 - 20:39
ditto here.
(6 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #6 Posted by DigitalDude on 16 Dec 2003 - 20:45
"No I don't mean that dumb looking robot in "Short Circuit" 1, 2 and was there ever a 3?" <-- nah there was only 2 heh the first was pretty good the 2nd one sucked.
Quote this comment #6.1 Posted by Sawyer12 on 16 Dec 2003 - 20:51
i was wondering when someone would ask about that lol
Quote this comment #6.2 Posted by Neobond on 16 Dec 2003 - 21:03


The technology astounds me!
Quote this comment #6.3 Posted by Tom Servo on 16 Dec 2003 - 21:05
Input! Input! Input!
Quote this comment #6.4 Posted by Voodoo on 16 Dec 2003 - 21:35
"No me alive, me johnny 5!"
Quote this comment #6.5 Posted by bradford108 on 16 Dec 2003 - 23:08
No disassemble!!!!!
Quote this comment #6.6 Posted by paulhaskew on 17 Dec 2003 - 00:16
the first movie was filmed only 10 miles from my house...
(7 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #7 Posted by MR_Candyman on 16 Dec 2003 - 21:02
Umm...the robot's name was Johnny 5, not V5...so I don't see the joke....
Quote this comment #7.1 Posted by Neobond on 16 Dec 2003 - 21:04
its ok.. really it is
Quote this comment #7.2 Posted by creamhackered on 16 Dec 2003 - 21:06
hahaha
Quote this comment #7.3 Posted by Voodoo on 16 Dec 2003 - 21:16
actually is was Number 5, he called himself Johnny...

Quote this comment #7.4 Posted by nowimnothing on 16 Dec 2003 - 21:19
think it says something about the group of people we have here on neowin that so many of us know that movie and those details of it?
Quote this comment #7.5 Posted by Voodoo on 16 Dec 2003 - 21:27
i have good recall for most 80's sci-fi im a fanboy
Quote this comment #7.6 Posted by ABC½ on 16 Dec 2003 - 21:32
QUOTE (#7.5)
i have good recall for most 80's sci-fi im a fanboy

Same here.
Quote this comment #7.7 Posted by dougkinzinger on 17 Dec 2003 - 18:39
They were great movies!
(3 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #8 Posted by no-sweat on 16 Dec 2003 - 21:03
i dont understand a thing
Quote this comment #8.1 Posted by IGx89 on 16 Dec 2003 - 21:59
Yeah, it is very hard to read with all the grammatical errors . I doubt Neobond is a native English speaker (and if he is, shame on him! ).
Quote this comment #8.2 Posted by Neobond on 17 Dec 2003 - 06:11
Quote this comment #8.3 Posted by Tom Servo on 17 Dec 2003 - 11:34
Neobond has been replaced by indian workers few weeks ago, because they're cheaper.
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #9 Posted by oqwarrior on 16 Dec 2003 - 21:14
I'm a beta tester, and http://v5.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ just redirects me to the v4 site.
Quote this comment #9.1 Posted by cal2002 on 16 Dec 2003 - 21:33
You must have XP Sp2 installed.
Quote this comment #9.2 Posted by oqwarrior on 16 Dec 2003 - 22:47
Oh, now i see
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #10 Posted by Avi on 16 Dec 2003 - 21:37
Does Windows Update v5 looks like v4? If not, any screenshots?
Quote this comment #10.1 Posted by divertom15 on 16 Dec 2003 - 21:57
yesss we need screenshots but blur out anything that we shouldnt be seing, of course!
Quote this comment #10.2 Posted by dougkinzinger on 17 Dec 2003 - 18:40
No screenshots yet, it's against the Microsoft beta tester NDA. So don't post them until MS does!
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #11 Posted by params on 16 Dec 2003 - 22:09
it's not live yet - it will go live with XP SP2!
Quote this comment #11.1 Posted by Thalid on 17 Dec 2003 - 22:01
If people have been invited to v5 thats mean they will get nto the sp2 beta ,if not whats the point of geting into the v5 ore have i missed something here?
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #12 Posted by isus on 16 Dec 2003 - 22:09
lol when i clicked the v5 link, it just redirected to v4.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #13 Posted by Voodoo on 16 Dec 2003 - 22:16
http://v5.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/V5Co...upport.aspx?ln=

doesnt need sp2 to show you the help screen tho
Quote this comment #13.1 Posted by shrike on 17 Dec 2003 - 00:45
oh gee.... wow
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #14 Posted by tapnet on 16 Dec 2003 - 22:20
Screenies?
Quote this comment #14.1 Posted by dougkinzinger on 17 Dec 2003 - 18:40
Again, no screenshots yet, it's against the Microsoft beta tester NDA.
(3 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #15 Posted by gosh on 16 Dec 2003 - 22:31
Couldn't you just edit the registry to show you have sp2 installed?

-gosh
Quote this comment #15.1 Posted by Coolme on 16 Dec 2003 - 22:51
...and how would you do that?
Quote this comment #15.2 Posted by BananaMan on 17 Dec 2003 - 02:22
Xteq X-Setup lets you do that.
Quote this comment #15.3 Posted by shrike on 17 Dec 2003 - 12:21
yeah.. but i'm sure that Microsoft has more protection against these things than a simple registry edit..
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #16 Posted by tapnet on 16 Dec 2003 - 22:35
If anyone has screenies of the site post them in here thanks
Quote this comment #16.1 Posted by dougkinzinger on 17 Dec 2003 - 18:41
Better yet, don't....since it's against the NDA.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #17 Posted by kiddingguy on 16 Dec 2003 - 22:50
Is there some significant difference from v4? Can someone post a screenshot or something?!?
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #18 Posted by crusher on 17 Dec 2003 - 13:18
Any face lift given to the windows update site or something else ??
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #19 Posted by cesardrgn on 17 Dec 2003 - 15:58
any images...
Quote this comment #19.1 Posted by vetMr magoo on 17 Dec 2003 - 19:30
are you blind? NO SCREENSHOTS.

read the damn thread.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #20 Posted by crazyturn2 on 17 Dec 2003 - 23:18
someone just post some screenshots already.. sheesh.. its not like its going to give out info as to who you are for crying out loud... and stop with the NDA crap.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #21 Posted by dougkinzinger on 17 Dec 2003 - 23:27
Easy there, killer, if you want to break their NDA (that is, if you're a tester), go ahead.

But irregardless, it's against the NDA. You don't like it....who cares.
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