Merry Christmas from Neowin
Posted by Mr magoo on 25 December 2003 - 00:54 · 168 comments & 7369 views
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#1 Posted by MikeCoz on 25 Dec 2003 - 00:56
- thanks
right back at ya
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#2 Posted by Cryton on 25 Dec 2003 - 00:56
- H A P P Y . C H R I S T M A S . T O . A L L . O F . N E O W I N ! !
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#3 Posted by rpm on 25 Dec 2003 - 00:58
- Thanks & Merry Christmas to you too!
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#4 Posted by matt74441 on 25 Dec 2003 - 00:59
- Happy Holidays!!!
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#5 Posted by Munki on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:00
- Many thanks, and same to you all.
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#6 Posted by nugg3t on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:01
- merry christmas neowin!
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#7 Posted by iCeRaven on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:01
- Merry Christmas to Neowin!
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#8 Posted by Cipher on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:02
- Merry Christmas
i did it larger.. aren't i witty.
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#9 Posted by Mav Phoenix on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:04
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#10 Posted by trance on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:06
- Happy Non-Denominational Holidays everyone!
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#10.1 Posted by fluxcapacitor on 25 Dec 2003 - 10:04
- Well, ain't that PC of ya to say "non-demoninational" of you...sad day we live in
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#11 Posted by sphere on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:08
- Thanks Neowin

Merry Christmas!
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#12 Posted by Space Guy on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:09
- Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

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#13 Posted by Dale on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:11
- Merry Christmas to you tooo NEOWIN!!!
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#14 Posted by Groovedude on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:11
- Happy Christmas...... Ho Ho Ho ! ! ! !
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#15 Posted by Quick Reply on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:12
- Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah and Happy New Year everyone!!!!!
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#16 Posted by Hidea on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:14
- Yuh.... Happy Chrismast.
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#17 Posted by BGuillaume on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:16
- Merry Christmas and Joyeux Noel everyone!!!!!!!!!!
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#18 Posted by ..::darkFish::.. on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:16
- Merry Christmas Neowin!
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#19 Posted by
malebolgia on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:17
- I second that happy holidays!
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#20 Posted by geetarbill on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:17
- Merry Christmas, don't forget the reason for the season!
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#21 Posted by lammmetak on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:20
- marry xmas neowin
i would like to thank the staff and esspecually blaise for my e-mail adres
have fun and dont forget the ppl who dont got as good as we.
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#22 Posted by Dessimat0r on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:20
- Merry Christmas!

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#23 Posted by mikulka on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:21
- Merry Christmas!
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#24 Posted by Sthrncin on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:21
- Ditto...to my fav news site.
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#25 Posted by wd40 on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:22
- Merry Christmas!
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#26 Posted by CyberKewl on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:24
- Merry Christmas!
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#27 Posted by qdave on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:26
- Merry Christmas everyone!!!
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#28 Posted by Truman on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:27
- Merry Christmas Everyone!!!
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#29 Posted by dhitb on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:32
- Merry Non-secular Holidays! <~~~That's what living in Kalifornia will do to ya

J/K
Merry Christmas everybody!
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#31 Posted by badall on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:38
- happy christmas and a merry new year
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#32 Posted by harleydog on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:41
- Happy Holidays all....
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#33 Posted by jymi on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:44
- merry xmas and a happy new year all
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#34 Posted by cooldude7273 on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:53
- happy holidays everyone!
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#35 Posted by DreamweaverN on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:56
- Merry Christmas everyone!
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#36 Posted by Thebuggerguy on 25 Dec 2003 - 01:59
- Season's Greetings, Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas and hope you well for the next year
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#37 Posted by zivan56 on 25 Dec 2003 - 02:00
- Happy holidays!
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#38 Posted by Cryptic_Night on 25 Dec 2003 - 02:01
- Merry Christmas....
Don't drink and drive....but please do drink.
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#39 Posted by xp1ode on 25 Dec 2003 - 02:02
- well i shall join in too
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL...
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#40 Posted by JonathanVP on 25 Dec 2003 - 02:03
- Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!!
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#41 Posted by Paulnc on 25 Dec 2003 - 02:06
- Merry Christmas to all at NEOWIN

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#42 Posted by Tekmaven on 25 Dec 2003 - 02:10
- Happy Chanukah to everyone as well!
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#43 Posted by nemesis1 on 25 Dec 2003 - 02:15
- merry happy happiness holidays & whatnot.
don't overdoze on chocolate, like everybody seems to be trying to do to me... ;p
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#44 Posted by ace135cc on 25 Dec 2003 - 02:16
- merry christmas neowin.
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#45 Posted by weenur on 25 Dec 2003 - 02:17
- Merry Christmas, Hanukkah, and Kwanzaa!
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#46 Posted by Marduk on 25 Dec 2003 - 02:18
- Merry Giftmas to all and to all a good good night
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#47 Posted by memodude on 25 Dec 2003 - 02:18
- Merry Christmas to Everybody on Neowin.net!
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#48 Posted by Bazildondude on 25 Dec 2003 - 02:42
- Merry Christmas everyone ^^
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#49 Posted by - diego - on 25 Dec 2003 - 02:43
- Merry Christmas !!! and Happy New Year to All !!
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#50 Posted by Xeon™ on 25 Dec 2003 - 02:46
- Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah, Erm and any other religous holidays

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#51 Posted by einsteinbqat on 25 Dec 2003 - 02:50
- Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of Neowin!!!
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#52 Posted by Solarix on 25 Dec 2003 - 03:10
- [grinch] till be the first and say PHUCK christmas [/grinch]
MERRY CHRISTMAS NEOWIN!
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#53 Posted by darkmatter on 25 Dec 2003 - 03:26
- Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
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#54 Posted by katalyst on 25 Dec 2003 - 03:29
- Take it sleazy!.......
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#55 Posted by aStRaLgOd on 25 Dec 2003 - 03:33
- Happy christmas and have a Merry new year!...
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Or is it inversed...?
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#56 Posted by gator70 on 25 Dec 2003 - 03:35
- Merry Christmas Neowin[ians] and a Happy New Year!!!!!
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#57 Posted by Crackler on 25 Dec 2003 - 03:38
- Merry Christmas!!
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#58 Posted by dewy on 25 Dec 2003 - 03:50
- [SIZE=14][COLOR=purple]Happy holidays and a new year ever one!
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#59 Posted by winxptwker on 25 Dec 2003 - 03:53
- Merry Christmas, everyone.
Thanks for supporting me throughout the year. I've apprenticated it. Looking forward to a safe 2004 (hope never more of those security patch rushs happen again!!)
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#60 Posted by ExtremeXDude on 25 Dec 2003 - 03:55
- Merry Christmas and a safe New Year Everybody Ho! Ho! Ho!
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#61 Posted by Samoa on 25 Dec 2003 - 04:03
- Merry Christmas back at you guys.
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#62 Posted by Banjo on 25 Dec 2003 - 04:09
- Happy Holidays



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#63 Posted by cannhawk on 25 Dec 2003 - 04:11
- Have a Very Safe & Happy Christmas All
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#64 Posted by macf13nd on 25 Dec 2003 - 04:23
- oh alright then: Merry Christmas all at Neowin and hope you have a great new year (does this count as a post?) only joking!
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#65 Posted by iguanas on 25 Dec 2003 - 04:24
- happy happy , JOY JOY
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#66 Posted by DigitalDude on 25 Dec 2003 - 04:24
- merry xmas and have a great new year everyone

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#67 Posted by dougkinzinger on 25 Dec 2003 - 04:29
- LAHRD!!!!!!
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#68 Posted by xpablo on 25 Dec 2003 - 04:30
- Merry Christmas To All @ Neowin
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#69 Posted by BOOGSoftball on 25 Dec 2003 - 04:32
- Merry Christmas to all and to all a LAHRD night!!
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#70 Posted by Prasanth on 25 Dec 2003 - 04:36
- Merry Christmas and a prosperous new year
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#71 Posted by Daybreak on 25 Dec 2003 - 04:41
- Merry Christmas Pple1
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#72 Posted by Digital_k on 25 Dec 2003 - 04:51
- I'd like to wish all of the Neowin Community a Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year

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#73 Posted by Sim31 on 25 Dec 2003 - 05:30
- Merry Christmas to everyone and there familys and hope everyone gets alot of gifts.

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#74 Posted by ingrampj on 25 Dec 2003 - 05:38
- <span style='font-size:14px;line-height:100%'>Happy Christmas and a peaceful New Year to Everybody at NEOWIN...thank you so much for everything that you people do.</span>
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#75 Posted by LyKwId on 25 Dec 2003 - 05:41
- MERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!
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#76 Posted by NateZ on 25 Dec 2003 - 06:01
- Merry Jesus-birthday-stealing Day!
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#77 Posted by Chr1zt1an on 25 Dec 2003 - 06:19
- Feliz Navidad ! from Mexico, to all Neowinians
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#78 Posted by Danrarbc641 on 25 Dec 2003 - 06:29
- Let me take a page from the best X-Play episode ever.
Happy non-denominational winter season!
Merry Christmas!
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#79 Posted by Windows X on 25 Dec 2003 - 06:33
- Merry Christmas everyone

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#80 Posted by athlonforce on 25 Dec 2003 - 06:52
- Merry Christmas all =)
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#81 Posted by Liquid Anubis on 25 Dec 2003 - 07:07
- Merry Merry Christmas!! ho ho ho...
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#82 Posted by PlainLazy on 25 Dec 2003 - 07:19
- Merry Christmas Neowin
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#83 Posted by Slayer on 25 Dec 2003 - 07:24
- Merry Christmas.
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#84 Posted by KayMan2K on 25 Dec 2003 - 07:25
- Happy 7th Night of Chanukah, Merry Christmas, and soon.. Happy New Year.
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#85 Posted by DOGglee on 25 Dec 2003 - 07:27
- Merry Christmas

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#86 Posted by Goalie_CA on 25 Dec 2003 - 07:33
- Merry Christmas!!!!
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#87 Posted by Spectre on 25 Dec 2003 - 08:26
- Merry Christmas everyone

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#88 Posted by Zaic on 25 Dec 2003 - 08:39
- merry christmas!!!!!!!!!
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#89 Posted by mikey on 25 Dec 2003 - 08:44
- Merry Christmas All!
Hope you all go tlots of presents
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#90 Posted by Demogorgon on 25 Dec 2003 - 08:45
- Merry Xmas!!!!!!
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#91 Posted by DJ Prem on 25 Dec 2003 - 08:46
- MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL
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#92 Posted by Lock on 25 Dec 2003 - 08:48
- happy xmas, drink alcohol and dream about migrating from windows

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#93 Posted by Nestea_M@n on 25 Dec 2003 - 09:00
- HAPPY NEW YEAR AND MERRY CHRISTMAS, NOW REMEMBER< DRINK LOTS OF ICED TEA!!! instead of booze... DRIVE SAFE.. AND SO FORTH AND SO FORTH.. MERRRYYY CHRISTMAS!
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#94 Posted by chrispinto on 25 Dec 2003 - 09:10
- MERRY CHRISTMAS GUYS N GALS
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#95 Posted by Quick Reply on 25 Dec 2003 - 09:29
- Wow 95 Replies and not a single reply to any of these statements

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#96 Posted by §imGuy on 25 Dec 2003 - 09:38
- Merry Christmas Neowin
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#97 Posted by Knight' on 25 Dec 2003 - 09:45
- Merry Christmas Everyone
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#98 Posted by TranceSphere on 25 Dec 2003 - 09:52
- Merry Christmas Everyone
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#99 Posted by Nightburn on 25 Dec 2003 - 10:34
- BAH HUMMMMM BUUUGGGGG!!!!
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#100 Posted by Savarize on 25 Dec 2003 - 10:34
- merry christmas everyone!
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#101 Posted by ultimaweaponff72003 on 25 Dec 2003 - 11:00
- Merry Christmas!
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#102 Posted by Wolfsglen on 25 Dec 2003 - 11:15
- Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays, folks!
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#103 Posted by whistlerxp on 25 Dec 2003 - 11:16
- Merry Christmas to everyone at Neowin!
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#104 Posted by RauL on 25 Dec 2003 - 11:37
- Feliz Navidad perros hps
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#105 Posted by Apollomus on 25 Dec 2003 - 11:45
- Merry Christmas!!!!!
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The Neowin Staff
TDM is also known as circuit-switched technology because it creates an end-to-end connection to complete a call. IP, on the other hand, uses packet switching, a method that involves breaking a call into pieces for more efficient delivery and then reassembling it at the other end.
Depending on the size of the company and the state of its existing IP infrastructure, rolling out a VoIP network can take years to complete. For example, Grant Thornton, a Chicago-based accounting and consulting firm servicing midsize companies, is already three years into a VoIP deployment that began in 2001.
The company has 51 offices throughout the country and employs roughly 3,500 workers installed a hybrid PBX solution from Avaya, which allowed it to maintain portions of its switched telephone network, so that some employees could continue using their existing digital analog phones while others used the IP phones.
"Once you begin a deployment like this, you realize how much there is to it," said Kevin Lopez, national manager of telecommunications for Grant Thornton. "When we first implemented the five-digit dialing system, we saw how many IP addresses we had to change. We realized how much work it was going to be to rollout the entire network, so we decided to do it over a longer period of time."
Since then the company has slowly deployed other services, such as unified messaging, and it is about to implement "soft" phone technology that will allow employees to make phone calls from their laptops. A few of the company's locations are all IP. But most locations still use a mix of IP and the traditional switched telephone network. In those locations, the VoIP network is only about 7 percent saturated.
Up goes the work load
The larger the company, often the longer it takes to deploy the service. Not only is the basic installation of the IP phones time-consuming and labor-intensive, but the IP technology used today also requires more management and maintenance than traditional digital phones.
"You never have to update a regular digital phone," Lopez said. "You just plug it in and it works. But the IP phones need software updates. You need to be sure you have the staff and a user base that understands when those updates need to happen."
Larger networks also require more testing to make sure the existing IP infrastructure can handle the additional load from the IP voice services. Some companies may even have to deploy additional infrastructure.
For example, Jenny Craig, the nationwide weight-loss company, has spent the past year and a half IP-enabling its network. It started with basic connectivity linking its 430 remote locations in North America and an additional 130 offices in Australia and New Zealand together via encrypted IP tunnels. The company is now just starting to roll out IP telephony to its branch offices.
"I'd say we are still dabbling in the technology," said Jeff Nelson, director of technology for Jenny Craig. "Going forward, everything will run over IP. But we are taking our time getting there."
Slower rollouts could mean that companies won't be spending as much on VoIP gear over the short term as some have predicted, Infonetics' Riggs said.
"With a staged environment, companies can move to the next phase of deployment whenever they're comfortable," he said. "That could be next year, or it could be in 2010."
But Cisco doesn't seem worried about revenue delays. The company boasts that it sold its 2 millionth IP phone in June. It also said that it's sold an additional 400,000 IP phones in the third quarter of this year, proving that momentum is building.
Rick Moran, vice president of product and technology marketing for IP communications for Cisco, admitted that some companies may take longer to deploy VoIP end to end than others. Either way, the movement toward VoIP means more business for Cisco--at some point.
"Some companies will be faster than others," he said. "It's interesting how companies are starting to look at VoIP like it's a business application rather than a telephony service. As a result, they tend to try it out in certain remote offices or in a particular department before they roll it out to the entire company."