Microsoft Notebook: Microsoft has plans to take on ... Apple
Posted by malebolgia on 05 January 2004 - 07:37 · 20 comments & 1067 views
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#1 Posted by KeR on 05 Jan 2004 - 07:42
- I didn't know Microsoft was working on a portable media player that could also play video

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#1.1 Posted by musicmaster on 05 Jan 2004 - 12:41
- that would be Media Center
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#1.2 Posted by snippet1 on 05 Jan 2004 - 12:55
- Sweet - colour screen!
But all this is one of the reasons why I won't buy an iPod.
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#1.3 Posted by dp123 on 05 Jan 2004 - 18:11
- Is that the mini-headphone jack on the FRONT of the display? Ha, ha, ha! Microsoft has a bunch of morons working for them that just don't get it. What do I do when I want music not video? How do I slip it into my pocket with the headphone jack stickin out and into my hip?
The answer: Microsoft knows they don't have a better music player and THINk they are ready to make video mainstream. But they aren't.
(Yes, I know it's a prototype and yes, I know there'll be many designs.) -
#1.4 Posted by el22 on 05 Jan 2004 - 18:39
QUOTE (#1.3) The answer: Microsoft knows they don't have a better music player and THINk they are ready to make video mainstream. But they aren't.
Sorry to dissapoint your anti-microsoft assumptions
But that's not a mini-headphone jack. It's a button. Probably for power or to rotate the display. You can easily see that in the zoomed image:
http://www.winsupersite.com/images/showcas..._preview_03.jpg
And anyway, as you say, this was the first public prototype so be sure it won't be anything like that.
You can see another prototype from ViewSonic here.
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#2 Posted by Chicane-UK on 05 Jan 2004 - 08:08
- I think the problem is Microsofts well known attitude to 3rd party competition developing directly for its products.
If Apple made the iTMS work with Windows Media Player, Microsoft would surely start trying to find ways to sneakily stop media player from working with iTMS in later updates.. thus it would make it look as if the iTMS wasn't working properly, or Apple was to blame.
Its not so far fetched - they have done this over and over again.
I think Apple are better off doing as they are for now. -
#2.1 Posted by macrosslover on 05 Jan 2004 - 08:17
- MS maybe would have done that back in the old days, but not now, they would just beat them with a better product. take real for example, MS has never done anything to make that product stop working with windows (unfortunately
). Real has done a good job of screwing that up themselves. winamp, perceived by many to be much better mp3 player than WMP, but as far as i know, people have never had problems running winamp because of Microsoft's actions.
i'm not saying MS has never done anything like you have described, but i think those days are long gone and if they did take on Apple, they would just beat them with a better product, and a bigger base to bundle the product with. -
#2.2 Posted by aristotle-dude on 05 Jan 2004 - 17:29
- What about MSN Messenger? They changed the protocol to stop Trillian.
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#2.3 Posted by macrosslover on 05 Jan 2004 - 19:01
- to my knowledge, so did yahoo and aol at some point. i can understand all of their reasoning for doing it, doesn't make it right, but i can understand it.
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#3 Posted by chilliadus on 05 Jan 2004 - 08:34
- I hope MS won't make the battery, ehh, irreplaceable lol.
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#4 Posted by CrimandEvil on 05 Jan 2004 - 08:40
- Screw that. If I wanted to DL music I would use iTunes. I have MSN but I don't use their software it looks like something that I threw up after a week of partying.
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#4.1 Posted by slang123 on 05 Jan 2004 - 14:57
- ur kidding right? iTunes looks so out of place and tacky. This is a windows OS, it looks cheap on a windows OS they should of thought of something origional. Other than that iTunes is great, but to say the interface is better than MSN messenger is a joke
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#4.2 Posted by CrimandEvil on 05 Jan 2004 - 16:29
- Messenger? I didn't say anything about messenger hell I don't even use messsenger.
I'm talking about the software MS gives you when you sign up with them. It's a browser, it sucks. I use Firebird, it's great! I use iTunes/Winamp5/two other media programs, not WMP. And what does it being a Windows OS have to do with anything? I like the way iTunes looks and the interface is a hell of alot better then anything MS has put out, hell even my GUI is skinned, Windows still looks like it was beaten with a sack of potatoes.
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#5 Posted by isus on 05 Jan 2004 - 12:38
- considering the fact that i only know 2 out of 100 people who even use windows media player, i think ms would have to take great leaps to make wmp more popular than say, winamp 5 or itunes or foobar or whatever it is that someone uses to listen to music.
i mean, it comes with wmp out of the box, why wouldn't more people use it?
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#5.1 Posted by jagedEdge on 05 Jan 2004 - 12:42
- Seriously. My dad hates Windows Media Player 9. It wouldn't let him make a simple playlist with songs directly from our server. He had to copy them to his machine and then make the playlist. WMP9 has all this rights-management crap added to it so you can't do a thing.
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#5.2 Posted by snippet1 on 05 Jan 2004 - 12:59
- There shouldn't be a problem with making a playlist with networked files. DRM can be decativated easily.
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#5.3 Posted by Fally on 05 Jan 2004 - 14:28
- It can... But why change the way people are used to doing things? Why make it hard? Technology is already complex enough for most people.
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#6 Posted by nowimnothing on 05 Jan 2004 - 16:00
- i'm gonna agree with noll3095... i have some issues with the way some things work in WMP9, but for the most part, it works exactly as i want it to... and i've certainly never had issues adding songs to a playlist from my server or, anything to do with DRM...
edit: doh, this was supposed to be a reply to comment 5...
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Jobs was referring to the dominance achieved by Microsoft's Windows operating system on PCs. But more than delivering a competitive jab, his answer underscored the situation in which Apple finds itself -- as the market leader in music downloads and portable music players. Microsoft would like to chip away at that lead on both fronts. The Redmond software company has said it plans to offer a music download service later this year through its MSN Internet service. With Seattle-based Loudeye, Microsoft last month began offering a service that lets other companies launch online music stores.
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