MVPs keep bashing competition of Microsoft (Linux, Symbian)
Posted by Tom Warren on 28 January 2004 - 17:38 · 19 comments & 1113 views
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#1 Posted by fishercounter on 28 Jan 2004 - 18:02
- exactly, all you linux lovers should move to china
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#1.3 Posted by tuxracer on 28 Jan 2004 - 18:46
- Because China has a type of government that they refer to as "communist" (in reality it's a police-state manarchy, but anywho) and open source is basically communism software development (real communism though, not manarchies and dictatorships that refer to themselves as communist, e.g. USSR, China, etc...). "From each his abilities, to each his needs."
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#2 Posted by kyro on 28 Jan 2004 - 18:19
- so finally .creamhackered , the real question is , who are you with then ? The MS MVP muppets or with MS Compitetion?
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#2.1 Posted by creamhackered on 28 Jan 2004 - 18:34
- Erm
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#3 Posted by Packman on 28 Jan 2004 - 18:37
- This article sucked. How about some details, like how is Microsoft going to generate them more revenue?
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#4 Posted by acidsex on 28 Jan 2004 - 19:15
- its all hype. MS cant increase revenue for anyone. It would require value added service and we all know there is no value in MS at all.
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#5 Posted by paulhaskew on 28 Jan 2004 - 21:53
- I don't believe that MVP's are bashing the competition of Microsoft...
I am actually a Microsoft MVP myself (check the sheet if you are in disbelief), and I use both Microsoft and other products, namely RedHat and other server related programs.
Anywho, you say that MVPs are bashing competition is ludicrous as most of us are familiar with more than just Microsoft products and use them on a daily basis. Do not believe, read or even base an opinion on something until you have all the facts.
MVP's are ::
Recognized: Microsoft MVPs are acknowledged by peers and also by Microsoft for their active participation in Microsoft technical communities around the globe.
Credible: Microsoft MVPs have demonstrated practical expertise providing the highest quality information and content.
Accessible: Microsoft MVPs are active technical community leaders sharing their experience with peers.
I myself try to do what I can to help people out where I can in my community over at winxpcentral.com... I do not know everything, nor do any MVP's, though some might think they do
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Articles like this annoy the heck out of me...
Just like the whole windows vs. linux, or mac vs windows... these things are an utter waste of time, bandwith... If it works for you, and you are happy, awesome... I wanna check it out then... if not, cool... but bashing people because they like something over something else is utterly pointless...
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#5.1 Posted by cal2002 on 29 Jan 2004 - 00:23
- Everyone should have their choice to use whatever they want. MVP's will of course 99.8% of the time say that a MS product can do it better than a Non-MS product (They are experts at the soecific MS product) But i wouldnt go to bashing a product/company (except maybe SCO
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Linux is great for some things, in comparision Windows is great for some things. It just depends how much time you want to take to learn something, or teach someone something. I would purchase an MS product over non-MS just due to the fact that it will almost always work with my PC and other hardware/software -
#5.2 Posted by paulhaskew on 29 Jan 2004 - 04:26
- I do believe that is what I said... but in a longer winded fashion
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#6 Posted by Dexter411 on 28 Jan 2004 - 22:07
- MVPs annoy me sometimes -- like the people who complained during the Office 2003 Beta test on Day 1 that they only found 50 bugs instead of the normal 75 they are used to. Reminds me of those overachievers in class who kept raising their hands and forcing me to stay awake in High School.
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#7 Posted by paulhaskew on 28 Jan 2004 - 23:43
- well hopefully i am not annoying you
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#8 Posted by zivan56 on 28 Jan 2004 - 23:58
- Most cell phones with any modest features use symbian, and because the extra software runs on a vm it is far more secure. Microsoft is basically proving that they are stupid.
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#9 Posted by iguanas on 29 Jan 2004 - 02:40
- i dont believe in this one...
i know several spanish and english spoken mvps, and much of them are experts in *nix and other oses too.
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#10 Posted by theh0g on 29 Jan 2004 - 09:03
- This only shows MVPs are affraid of Linux and Symbian. And they should be. At least Symbian is made for phones, Windows Mobile is just some version of Windows CE modified to work on phones. I never have any problems with Symbian on my Nokia and I can say I use it a lot.
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#11 Posted by rps on 29 Jan 2004 - 17:43
- Who said that GNU/Linux vs. Windows has anything to do with software?
Theres a much bigger issue, you just don't see it.
Robert Levy says that Windows Mobile from Microsoft is better than Linux, because operators will earn less money with Linux (and thus forgets one important factor: users don´t like to part with their money very much): Linux is proclaiming "Pick me! I´ll decrease your costs!" while Microsoft is getting right to the heart of the matter by boasting "Pick me! I´ll increase your revenue." One offers to cut the cost of each device by a few dollars. The other offers to increase the amount of money customers pay to their carrier each month by a few dollars. This doesn´t sound like a very difficult decision to me.
Gal Saloman, chief executive of Discretix, told The Register that 12-15 handsets feature its crypto technology. These devices include phones from Sony Ericsson and other manufacturers, some of which will be declared publicly during the forthcoming 3GSM conference.
Over the last year mobile operators have become more interesting in selling content over mobile phones, providing access to corporate calendaring and performing firmware upgrades over the air. This requirement has led to a need to hardware-based security from handset manufacturers.
Without improvements in security the industry risks repeating the cracks to games for Nokia NGage the accompanied the high-profile release of the integrated phone / gaming device last year, Saloman warned. NGage's protection technology was software based and therefore less secure than a hardware-based system, Discretix argues.
Discretix is a member of the Symbian Platinum Program and its technology also supports Linux. Saloman said Discretix is "still waiting for its first Microsoft customer".
"We'd love to help but we're not seeing much traction in the market," he added.
Discretix also provides security technology for PDAs and storage cards. By contrast to mobile phones this is an area where demand for Discretix' security technology for Microsoft-based devices is far more tangible.