A little birdy has whispered in our ear and has let us know that Microsoft are planning to release a new SP2 build to its beta testers very soon. We're currently waiting on a build that is "fit" (in simple terms) to go out to beta testers and Microsoft is taking every effort to ensure the release of this interim build is a smooth one unlike the Beta 1 where 1000's of testers were left waiting to download the release.
This evening Microsoft held a online meeting for 'Lonestar' (Tablet PC 2004) testers where they demo'd a new build of XPSP2 which apparently included the Tablet PC bits. This build was Build 2600.xpsp.040213-1845(Service Pack 2, v.2081) which means it was compiled on the 13th February 2004. According to sources close to Microsoft we're likely to see a new build released to testers that will include the 'Lonestar' bits as early as next week.
Update: To confirm users comments on this news, Microsoft are updating the Windows XP icons across the OS in SP2 so any old icons should be updated from now on keeping the consistent look of XP which is good news to people who like theme-ing their Windows installations.
Screenshot: Windows XP SP2 Build 2081
Screenshot: Windows XP SP2 Build 2081 Lonestar Additions
News source: In-House
This evening Microsoft held a online meeting for 'Lonestar' (Tablet PC 2004) testers where they demo'd a new build of XPSP2 which apparently included the Tablet PC bits. This build was Build 2600.xpsp.040213-1845(Service Pack 2, v.2081) which means it was compiled on the 13th February 2004. According to sources close to Microsoft we're likely to see a new build released to testers that will include the 'Lonestar' bits as early as next week.
Update: To confirm users comments on this news, Microsoft are updating the Windows XP icons across the OS in SP2 so any old icons should be updated from now on keeping the consistent look of XP which is good news to people who like theme-ing their Windows installations.
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Currently testing the previous SP2 build in VMware, just in case it fugs anything... so far it's been rock solid.
I think it meant how it was distrubuted.
Uh, yeah, if you happen to run a network server of some sort.
Now why was this comment posted here?
dear oh dear,
but you can run it as one, why couldn't you?
and actually 2k3 is better then xp, since it doesn't have the useless add on newbie s h i t, that xp does
Why would anyone fork out all the extra money it takes to purchase Windows Server 2003? The benefits can't be worth spending that much money, then having to force-feed it the stuff that most desktops have...
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=75970
Last edited by 21925 on 20 Feb 2004 - 11:22
Even some critcal security updates of SP2 files are available to download. SP2 is just a collection of all the updates all packed into one. (for lazy people like myself who doesn't bother to download the security updates individually through windowsupdate)
lol people ALWAYS have to wait between a bug is confirmed and a fix is released. Whether it's a long wait or a short one is another issue. Now if only someone could stop asking stupid questions...
The only thing Linux has its advantage in is that it's opensource. So if the administrator is learned in it, he can fix the **** himself.(I'm talking from a company perspective, if linux technically is better at handling something or something else they might be, but i don't give a **** it has nothing to do with the issue)
But why should you need a programmer as a system administrator? And guess how much it would cost them to change? Their current administrators should learn programming, which normally is a 2-3 year course here. Who wants to pay full wage for 2-3 years without actually using the person?
You could then wait for a patch, which in no way has any garuantee, neither a "proper" bugfix proces. Which also is states by devil/stable tags.
Microsoft is a company, not a community.
Their fixes has to be tested before release, although bugs are inevitable. I would say that there is little difference in a good bug processing for both operating systems.
Also would you, as a company, use a product that has no support? With people that are not competent in any system.
(Yes i know it's possible to buy support for some linux distros, but that kinda defeats the purpose)
p.s. oh, and it's "LOSER". If you're trying to insult someone, at least learn the words. And have you ever seen a loser who's not lame? What else can it be, a "cool loser"?
Last edited by 11188 on 20 Feb 2004 - 11:57
woot sp2 soon. all for fixes, and fixes for all.
I can't wait for the final version of SP2.
(Yes i know it's possible to buy support for some linux distros, but that kinda defeats the purpose)
Windows support has its problems, too.
http://eeye.com/html/Research/Upcoming/index.html
In the end, we all must choose the system(s) that do the job we want done the best, and the answer(s) are different for every individual and corporation. But, please, let's not throw around false or misleading information based on personal theories.
1. You don't need more of a programmer for a Linux system admin than a Windows one. Programming experience is pretty much required for both jobs, anyhow.
2. Patches are inevitable, and in fact, are actually *good*, as they show improvement over the old versions. Some patches (Linux or Windows) may have side-effects, but most are very good and do just what they should
3. And, yes, you can get support for any OS you install. Or you can go without support and "do it yourself". The path you take is your choice, and there is no "wrong" answer.
Of course you don't need programming. But patches doesn't get released as stable like the first or second day after it's discovered.
Also yeah it's pretty basic to get updates, but apparently they don't. I've always said that it's the users problem to secure his computer. But still i see a lot of unpatched systems when i work.
So as a little good gesture i enable automatic updates for them and i give them a little lecture in security. In my opinion they should've either have learned it, or payed someone to do it.
Why should a company hire one with extra abillities beyond the ones he need? Here in Denmark that translate to extra wage. i.e. i know someone who has some work experience and some degree in the IT area, now he works for the state in planting gardens, trees etc. But he gets extra wage, just because he has that extra degree.
That means the company has to pay extra for a service he doesn't even deliver.(However he can be if nessecary)
Yeah i do remember one or 2 "bloopers" from Microsoft, of course that can happen. For both parts. What i meant is that, Microsoft don't purposely release devil software to the end user.
Of course Linux doesn't force you either.
By support i don't just mean patches. Since many problems that has come with Windows can be solved by a Windows Server protecting the clients. Or any other server.
I don't know how much programming in Linux you require, it all depends on the system, if you had the knewest, you would probably need patches.
And if you want to make them yourself, you need a programmer.
In Windows it's a bit different, since it's closed source, so you either have to wait, or you have to fix it yourself.
Which can mean you can fix it by using a server as a "firewall" for that exploit.
Or you can try to make a patch yourself.
In botch cases though, you need some commandline and scripting knowledge, that's basicly a must.
Agree on the 2 last points as well.
Edit: According to the kernel specifications Windows shouldn't need reboots. And in most cases it doesn't either, although it still want us to reboot.
Last edited by 825 on 21 Feb 2004 - 08:01
I wonder if linux was on 90% of the computers in the word just how many exploits and patches would be required?
Windows update or say, Red Hat Update.. theres little difference
Since when is this a "windows site"? From what I can tell, news of all operating systems, and technology in general, is discussed here.
no it isn't, try running a second firewall at the same time and see all the s h i t that comes through
Go Microsoft.. C# .NET as its best.
I like using the messeging service at the office, can it still be re-enabled? Does anyone know if there will be a way to not let SP2 disable this service?
Not installing this until it goes final, but just curious.
bloody hell some people are easily please....
Not exactly. SP1 only had one or two pirated keys hard coded that it would not install on (most notably, the one released with the "Devils Own" corporate copy). Keys generated with the BlueList keygen worked just fine with SP1.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't it be "Microsoft is planning," and "Microsoft is updating." ? I don't know if the subject verb agreement rule is different in the UK because I see this common error a lot.
It could be a common misunderstanding.
Yes, in the US, that is true. But in the Queen's English, companies are a collection of people, and therefore plural.
In the US there is the concept of "incorporation" that treats a company of people as a separate individual, and therefore singular.
Don't be so certain of "facts" that are localised. (or, "localized" in America)
Read the bold part. It's not released to the beta testers yet.