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Music industry sues 477 more computer users

malebolgia   on 28 April 2004 - 20:57 · 45 comments & 3008 views

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The recording industry sued 477 more computer users Wednesday, including dozens of college students at schools in 11 states, accusing them of illegally sharing music across the Internet.

The Recording Industry Association of America, the trade group for the largest labels, praised efforts by colleges and universities to use technology and school policies to crack down on music piracy on their own computer networks. But it said the most egregious offenders on campus deserved to be sued. "There is also a complementary need for enforcement by copyright owners against the serious offenders to remind people that this activity is illegal," said the group's president, Cary Sherman.

The recording industry filed its latest complaints against "John Doe" defendants, identifying them only by their numeric Internet protocol addresses. It said lawyers will work through the courts to request subpoenas against the universities and some commercial Internet providers to learn the defendants' names. Campus officials at Mansfield University in Pennsylvania warned students months ago about requests from the recording industry to crack down on copyright infringement on its computer networks.

News source: CNN


pulled, rude comments, shit story. Not worth the hassle.

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#1 hadiz on 28 Apr 2004 - 21:10
Oh great, they're at it again..
(1 reply) #2 Landlocked on 28 Apr 2004 - 21:12
As a sysadmin, I've dealt with clients who've been infected with worms that set up backdoors to serve cracks, warez, MP3z and...ahem...flicks.

I would love to know if the RIAA has tried to sue someone who really wasn't involved in illegal trafficking of content.

Landlocked
#2.1 incubusdaemon on 28 Apr 2004 - 21:23
Yep- The RIAA sued an employee workstation here at UC Berkeley that turned out to be a zombie machine.
#3 cesardrgn on 28 Apr 2004 - 21:22
they there go again...
(2 replies) #4 incubusdaemon on 28 Apr 2004 - 21:23
Anyone know if this is still limited to FastTrack Network users, or has it spread to eDonkey/torrent yet?

Also - if you RTFA, you can see the list of schools where the students are located.

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#4.1 Mongrel on 28 Apr 2004 - 22:34
I have the same question! We all know it's easy to look at someone's entire "Shared Folder" with the standard version of Kaazaa, and I assume that's how they were pinning their victims. Anyone know if this is still the primary source?
#4.2 Jugalator on 29 Apr 2004 - 06:19
I found this about the eDonkey network: http://news.dmusic.com/article/7484
(that's about a rather rare eDonkey-compatible client, but the important thing is which networks they scan... it probably doesn't matter which exact client you use)

They're also suing people for Gnutella...
(2 replies) #5 Surr3al on 28 Apr 2004 - 21:43
Kinda in response to incubusdaemon, but not exactly.

Well, supposedly we're safe for the time being, since Verizon won the RIAA v. Verizon Internet Services case whereas the RIAA cannot issue subpoenas to obtain the identity of Verizon subscribers allegedly trading music files.

All of these people being sued were all caught before December 19, 2003.

More info here:
http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/riaasubpoenas/

Now, it doesn't mean they can't exactly, but an ISP can easily bring that case in their defense if they don't wish to respond to the subpoenas.
#5.1 incubusdaemon on 28 Apr 2004 - 22:00
like i need any more reasons to join the EFF... I should just bite the bullet and join.
#5.2 Nichotin on 29 Apr 2004 - 13:35
im already a member of the norwegian youth division of EFF.
(1 reply) #6 cowabunga on 28 Apr 2004 - 21:48
And how many live in the US nowadays??? This is gonna take a while.

This is total BS and just for showand it won't make any differance at all. The record labels have to change their strategy faster since their resistance to do anything creative will ultimatly make them bankrupt.
#6.1 Jugalator on 29 Apr 2004 - 06:13
QUOTE (#6.0)
This is total BS and just for showand it won't make any differance at all.

http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Technology/03TechTECH01042604.htm
#7 dpm on 28 Apr 2004 - 21:49
Well, I myself am a Student of Texas A&M (One of the listed universities) so I'll be interested in seeing how this plays out. I have a feeling I might know some of these people.
#8 Foub on 28 Apr 2004 - 22:28
They're still at it even after the recent study which showed that music downloads had zero affect on record sales. Now, who is the real criminal here.
(1 reply) #9 nic on 28 Apr 2004 - 22:55
Does anyone know what any of the discriminating factors for these 477 people were?
Was it based on how many songs they were sharing/amount of activity on the network? Or was it simply a matter of randomly picking people on the network and seeing if they were sharing *any* copyrighted material?

My guess is they at least targetted a lot of the same people on the same network so there would be less hassel w/ the subpoenas.
#9.1 Kurt on 28 Apr 2004 - 23:08
.oops. pls disregard this message.
#10 Kurt on 28 Apr 2004 - 23:09
Would it be impossible to get trouble if using proxy..?
(5 replies) #11 Glen on 28 Apr 2004 - 23:13
Simple solution: Just get a wireless router and claim it's not secured. That way they have to prove that someone else didn't just attach to your WAP and share their own music.
#11.1 nuka_t on 28 Apr 2004 - 23:37
but then you d be running an insecure wap, which is very risky.
#11.2 Autumnmist on 28 Apr 2004 - 23:48
At a university, you'd be held responsible for any traffic going through your WAP.
#11.3 DELTA75329 on 29 Apr 2004 - 02:18
QUOTE (#11.0)
Simple solution: Just get a wireless router and claim it's not secured. That way they have to prove that someone else didn't just attach to your WAP and share their own music.

This is no less asinine than speeding and then claiming you didn't see the speed limit sign when the cop pulls you over.

Doesn't even count for a sarcastic "nice try"
#11.4 insurektion on 29 Apr 2004 - 02:22
worse analogy ever. mabye if the glasses you were reading had to be specially configured to read speed signs. avg americna joe has no idea how to secure their WAP.
#11.5 threedaysdwn on 29 Apr 2004 - 13:50
Delta, that's the worst analogy I've ever heard. It doesn't even make sense.

It's more like building your own private road, without any barriers to public access, and then having noise complaints or the like because some people are ****ing around on the road.

Could be you, could be someone else who found a nice big empty road to **** around on.

Who gets in trouble? The builder/owner of the road, or the unidentified trespasser?
(2 replies) #12 sumeet on 28 Apr 2004 - 23:54
glad im in canada
#12.1 MsnEnthusiast on 29 Apr 2004 - 01:47
me too
#12.2 Jugalator on 29 Apr 2004 - 06:10
Not me, but that doesn't matter since only RIAA sue.
(and it's like in Canada here too -- still legal to download music)
#13 aleck79 on 29 Apr 2004 - 00:09
im going to have to stop download...lol
(4 replies) #14 imtoomuch on 29 Apr 2004 - 00:15
From the list of colleges I saw on another site, I'd say the RIAA is going after the wealthier universities. Guess they don't want to go after ghetto kids and not get any money from them.
#14.1 dpm on 29 Apr 2004 - 06:42
Texas A&M only costs about 10K-11K for in-state tuition. Compared to other universities, that's not very 'wealthy'

Take Baylor, or other non-state funded universities.
#14.2 Gahmahn on 29 Apr 2004 - 11:59
Are you kidding? Mine only cost 2k per semester and I go to a state university.
#14.3 g33kb0y on 29 Apr 2004 - 19:38
QUOTE
Texas A&M only costs about 10K-11K for in-state tuition.

My in-state tuition ran $1,300 here in Kansas
#14.4 dpm on 29 Apr 2004 - 21:04
Well, compared to eastern and northern universities in New York, Massachusetts, etc, A&M is cheap. I'm just happy that it's still cheater than TU.
#15 MsnEnthusiast on 29 Apr 2004 - 01:48
You've gotta be kidding me!! will the RIAA madness ever end..
#16 Geo on 29 Apr 2004 - 03:31
Wow, I should move to USA so I can abuse the 'system' as well, seeing as it sounds so easy...
#17 kioria on 29 Apr 2004 - 03:38
Should they be stopping the downloaders or the suppliers? Where are all the fuss about stopping those servers? I see none...
#18 James55 on 29 Apr 2004 - 05:52
If anyone is still using stupid kazaa they deserve what they get
(4 replies) #19 Grappa on 29 Apr 2004 - 12:58
STOP BUYING CDs. Only when we boycott the RIAA and their sales start to plummet will they get the message!
#19.1 Andareed on 29 Apr 2004 - 13:05
Then they'll just sustain themsleves on lawsuits
#19.2 Grappa on 29 Apr 2004 - 13:52
If you continue to buy CDs, you're just funding their lawyers.
#19.3 amanichen on 29 Apr 2004 - 14:00
Reply to #19.1

Actually, they wouldn't be able to, but good try, here's a cigar.
#19.4 dpm on 29 Apr 2004 - 21:06
You stop buying CD's, and then they have more fuel with which to claim that music downloads are hurting their business.

They ignore things like price fixing, supply and demand, etc just like any trust/monopoly.
(1 reply) #20 kemical on 29 Apr 2004 - 14:16
riaa will get whats coming to them soon i bet
#20.1 MsnEnthusiast on 29 Apr 2004 - 15:45
i hope so..cuz this is stupid.
#21 g33kb0y on 29 Apr 2004 - 19:45
RIAA Mantra: Look, a dead horse! *kick*
#22 ripgut on 30 Apr 2004 - 01:40
vh1's " fabulous life of...." and mtv cribs is the reason i dont buy music anymore

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