Red Hat's retail Linux line, Red Hat Linux 9, is at the end of its line. The Raleigh, N.C.-based Linux vendor is ending support on its final version on April 30th. Red Hat made the original announcement at the end of last year. In January, it ended support for its earlier legacy versions, leaving Red Hat 9 as the most recent version of the now defunct product line -- until now. Red Hat is hoping Red Hat 9 customers will now migrate to its Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) line.
"When we first announced the program, we had a big up tick then. But since then, it's been very steady," Red Hat spokesperson Leigh Day told internetnews.com. "We've had a pretty good success rate with people moving over," she added. Red Hat has urged businesses that require support and longer release cycles to migrate to RHEL; for those that don't need as much support, there is the community-based Fedora Project. The Fedora Project is now in the final testing stages of its Fedora Core 2 release, after it released test 3 this week.
News source: InternetNews.com
"When we first announced the program, we had a big up tick then. But since then, it's been very steady," Red Hat spokesperson Leigh Day told internetnews.com. "We've had a pretty good success rate with people moving over," she added. Red Hat has urged businesses that require support and longer release cycles to migrate to RHEL; for those that don't need as much support, there is the community-based Fedora Project. The Fedora Project is now in the final testing stages of its Fedora Core 2 release, after it released test 3 this week.
News source: InternetNews.com
pulled, rude comments, shit story. Not worth the hassle.
Two years later, everyone said that "redhat is the best for server because it for free and there are a lot of support for it". Now i learn that linux's comunities lie!
Change the fedora cost nothing?. There are some "magic wand" to convert Redhat 9 in fedora?.
In my case, the TOC of my linux server will go to the heaven!. MS have reasons!, linux is not cheap!
Buy Win2k3 licenses, and convert your RH to Win. It's not going to be 'free', either. Your original post seemed to place the importance on the 'free as in free beer' thing (which is the wrong way to look at Linux, anyhow).
(P.S. Fedora does "upgrade" a RedHat system. Use the same amount of caution and preparation as you would when upgrading a Windows system from one level to the next.)
Uh, obviously. That, however, is not what he's talking about. He's talking about the Red Hat to Fedora transition, and how it's not magically "free" like slapnuts_ox was claiming earlier in this thread.
I don't give a crap how much Windows costs. It doesn't have anything to do with the fact that a Red Hat to Fedora transition isn't free all the time, regardless of its box price.
So I'm supposed to blindly get Linux and ignore its TCO, because anything else is "the wrong way to look at Linux"? Right.
His complaint was that conversion to Fedora will cost money, and isn't free.
His options:
1. Keep his current level of RH, and the current support he is paying for (there is legacy 3rd party support, just no official RedHat support. If his support was internal, there is no change to his situation, so we can assume he meant 3rd party)
2. Switch to RH Enterprise if official RedHat support is important to him (I assume not, as he would have paid for that, too).
3. Do an upgrade to Fedora (which I would not recommend for critical mission servers; it is a home user distro)
or
4. Switch to another OS (which may likely be cost-prohibitive, regardless of your starting and ending OS).
I don't think that the original poster will be happy, regardless. His opinion was that Linux was a "Free Lunch", which it is not.
In my case, the TOC of my linux server will go to the heaven!. MS have reasons!, linux is not cheap!"
Ok Fedora does not cost anything to get. You simply download it for free. http://download.fedora.redhat.com so I really am confused by how your saying its not free. The only thing it takes is time to upgrade.
Time is money my friend... so it's NOT completely free.
another example of when people shouldn't complain is with the whole winnt4.0 support being cut. i heard it was extended. but for gods sake man! lol have these companies not ever heard of something called a directory service. the damn software is old. win2003 boots ALOT faster anyways.
i guess i'm just the kinda guy that tries to stay in touch of recent and new technologies whenever possible. if it's there i want it. lol
too bad not all companies can afford such a moto.
well at least with linux, there is always the option of patching the individual packages yourself from each software company until you're ready to upgrade the entire OS base in full. that's something i wish microsoft of allow.
I don't think you can compare cutting support for NT4 to RHL9...
I mean, RHL9 was released on 3/31/2003. NT4 is really quite old (my CD cover for it says (c) 1985-1996, so I think it is fair to say it was released on or before 1996.
Official legacy support is something that Microsoft does several orders of magnitude better than Linux resellers.
His complaint was that conversion to Fedora will cost money, and isn't free.
His first language isn't English so I had some trouble, but what I gather from his post is that he's just a normal home user who does his own support. In that case, it wouldn't really cost any money.
But that's not my issue. slapnuts_ox is claiming that just because the box price for Fedora is $0, it doesn't cost money to upgrade to it. There's the whole thing about time being money, and there's also the thing you pointed out where you might want to pay for support.
Boot time doesn't really matter when your servers are supposed to run 99% of the time. And every customer I've run into running NT 4 is doing so because they have legacy or in-house applications that won't run on a newer version of Windows.
Sometimes these posts are hard to interpret. I got the impression of a SOHO. That is why I recommended he NOT consider Fedora.
Who knows?
Now that he got a lively debate going, he disappears.
If you see a cheaper deal, take it. If you don't, don't. No one promised that you'ld make a profit, or never need to upgrade, or would overpower your competition .. they might have HYPED such claims, but betcha anything they never wrote it into a contract.
Get some solid cost analysis of your options, choose the most intelligent one, and don't blame others for your reluctance to face facts. If Linux (or Windows, or Free BSD, or whatEVER) fits your needs best, use it. JEEZE, d00d!
For some reason, Fedora won't run (or I haven't been able to get it to run) under VMware 4.0. PM me if you have a solution.
What is The Fedora Legacy Project?
The Fedora Legacy Project is a community-supported open source project. It is not a supported project of Red Hat, Inc. although Red Hat, Inc. does provide some support services for it.
The goal of The Fedora Legacy Project is to work with the Linux community to provide security and critical bug fix errata packages for select End of Life Red Hat Linux and Fedora Core distributions. This will allow for a longer effective life for those releases.
RH did what any company needs to do that focuses solely on selling a Linux OS: they implemented a sales model that allows them to actually get paid for the work that they do. If you are too cheap to invest in RHEL for your business, then you have no right to be complaining. If you're an aspiring propeller-head, then move on to Fedora with the rest of the herd. Moo.
-B
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