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ATi releases RADEON X800, world's fastest visual processor

Toxicfume   on 04 May 2004 - 18:19 · 60 comments & 1778 views

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To the delight of gamers everywhere, ATI Technologies Inc. today launched its RADEON™ X800 Visual Processing Unit (VPU) which will deliver the industry’s most awesome gaming experience possible on a PC. With the introduction of the RADEON X800, ATI continues its two year reign as the industry leader in high-end graphics for gaming and ushers in a new era, High Definition Gaming. Worldwide system integrators, original equipment manufacturers and board partners are excited to deliver RADEON X800 powered systems and boards beginning immediately.

Gamers using computers powered by RADEON X800 will enjoy a higher performance, immersive gaming experience that looks better than ever before. This High Definition Gaming experience is the PC equivalent to watching a sporting event on an HDTV. This is made possible by the highly scalable and efficient architecture of the RADEON X800 that uses 16 parallel pixel pipes and 6 vertex pipes to process more than 8 billion pixels and almost 800 million vertices per second.

“The RADEON X800 builds on the great success of the RADEON 9700 and RADEON 9800, the most sought-after high-end visual processors in the world," said Rick Bergman, Senior Vice President Marketing, General Manager, Desktop, ATI Technologies Inc. “With the RADEON X800, the design team has accomplished something that no one thought was possible. Not only have they developed the highest-performing and most efficient graphics architecture in the world, they have done so while maintaining high levels of stability, reliability and manufacturability.”

ATI has used the most advanced technologies available to design and manufacture its new RADEON X800 graphics chips. Using the successful low k .13 micron semiconductor process from Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., Ltd., ATI created a scalable, highly parallel and powerful visual processor that is twice as fast as today’s performance leader, the RADEON™ 9800 XT. The advanced fabrication process and leading-edge GDDR3 memory have also enabled ATI and its board partners to deliver high-performance, user-friendly graphics card solutions which will work in customer’s existing PCs without requiring radical and costly power supply or cooling upgrades.

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    #1 threedaysdwn on 04 May 2004 - 18:22
    World's fastest? Not according to the reviews I read...

    "Pretty much tied for world's fastest" I could deal with

    Though it looks like Nvidia's 6800 Ultra Extreme is taking the cake for the fastest card ever as of today.
    (7 replies) #2 Beast_4thHM on 04 May 2004 - 18:24
    Ya I also disagree with title , not neowin.net place to decide fastest card as such does not exist.

    Fastest card = fastest performance without loss of IQ per USER NEEDS
    at least imho
    #2.1 Surr3al on 04 May 2004 - 18:34
    Um, it did beat the geforce 6800 in most aspects. The only things lacking I believe is the 24-bit floating-point precision and ShaderModel 2.0 at this point that's not even an issue though. So, at the moment, isn't it the fastest without any loss of IQ per user needs?
    #2.2 threedaysdwn on 04 May 2004 - 18:56
    Actually it tied the 6800 in most aspects. It didn't beat it in any regard. The 6800 is basically a similarly equipped chip with better floating point precision and PS 3.0 support.

    In current games, they perform about the same (though the 6800 won by a significant margin in every OpenGL test).
    #2.3 jerry on 04 May 2004 - 19:11
    X800 Pro matched/outperformed 6800 Ultra in most benchmarks leave alone X800 XT which "creamed" every other benchmark.

    The 6800 Ultra Extreme is what has matched/outperformed X800 XT in most benchmarks, check again.
    #2.4 threedaysdwn on 04 May 2004 - 19:17
    Not according to ExtremeTech's review... which is the only one I've read closely so far.
    #2.5 jerry on 04 May 2004 - 19:19
    Just look at the benchie carpediem posted in the forums. Nvidia is cheating again and even after cheating they are not able to outclass ATi's top performer.

    http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=163813&st=75&#entry2059980
    #2.6 berlamont on 04 May 2004 - 19:20
    don't go on just one review out of the 5 i've read ati won most aspects out of all of them
    #2.7 Surr3al on 04 May 2004 - 19:54
    Yeah, I've read many reviews, and when the settings are at their highest, ATi prevails.
    #3 vetvoidunknown on 04 May 2004 - 18:28
    Whooo hooooo!
    #4 jerry on 04 May 2004 - 18:29
    QUOTE
    not neowin.net place to decide fastest card as such does not exist.


    QUOTE
    Though it looks like Nvidia's 6800 Ultra Extreme is taking the cake for the fastest card ever as of today.


    Flame wars to follow below:
    (2 replies) #5 episode on 04 May 2004 - 18:31
    Thats what the press release said, not neowin.

    You can't be "pretty much tied". If its faster by .0000001 its still faster.
    #5.1 threedaysdwn on 04 May 2004 - 18:53
    Yes, yes you can be pretty much tied.

    The X800 Pro and the 6800 Ultra are pretty much tied. They're both $500ish cards. The ATI card won some tests, the Nvidia card won others.

    Therefore, there's no clear winner. They're pretty much tied.

    The 6800 Ultra Extreme wins basically every benchmark, and therefore is the fastest (though supply and price for those cards is unknown at this time).
    #5.2 jerry on 04 May 2004 - 19:34
    QUOTE
    The ATI card won some tests, the Nvidia card won others.


    Nvidia has lead in COD & Halo wheras ATi leads in all other games. You call that a tie ?
    (1 reply) #6 Jason on 04 May 2004 - 18:46
    I don't class this as news, ATI and Nvidia brings new cards out every 6 months obviously one of the two will be the fastest card each time.
    #6.1 insurektion on 05 May 2004 - 01:41
    Thats why its not your job to post news. PCI Express card mean anything to you its news to me.
    (1 reply) #7 RangerLG on 04 May 2004 - 18:47
    Well, what is ATI supposed to say? I would hope they would pump it up as much as possible seeing as it is THEIR product. Plus, they are trying to get people to fork up a lot of cash for one of these. I doubt someone would be as inclined to buy it if it said One of the Two Fastest video cards.
    #7.1 threedaysdwn on 04 May 2004 - 18:55
    I just think Neowin should change the title. It's a fine title for an ATI Press release - but not for a neowin news item.

    And also, why is there no mention of the cards Nvidia announced today? (The 6800 Ultra Extreme - the other fastest card ever. And the 6800 GT?)
    #8 Elite_graphix on 04 May 2004 - 18:51
    woohooo go go aTI...!!!
    #9 DarkRyu on 04 May 2004 - 18:57
    I personally, don't think these videos offered much, I enjoyed the Unreal Demo w/ the Nvidia card, that one impressed me more.
    Maybe If i knew how many pixels, polygons, some statistical description of what I just saw on this ATI card.
    #10 welshkid on 04 May 2004 - 19:04
    when is this goin to be released in the uk and how much?
    (1 reply) #11 IncomT65 on 04 May 2004 - 19:04
    well looks like nVIDIA is the best again weee
    #11.1 insurektion on 05 May 2004 - 01:42
    uh?
    (1 reply) #12 Tager on 04 May 2004 - 19:04
    as long as it drives the 9800 series prices way down, then i'll be happy
    #12.1 Surr3al on 04 May 2004 - 19:56
    Hahaha, that's what I'm hoping for too!
    #13 crackhbob on 04 May 2004 - 19:16
    I love how people that hate the other can't seem to be thankful for the competition, and this is directed at both sides. Also, they spoke of nvidia's low retail supply right now, is that true? I haven't been into any stores lately to look.
    (1 reply) #14 jonkun on 04 May 2004 - 19:20
    Wow, I got credited. I never expected that! Thanks Neowin! Very professional!
    #14.1 insurektion on 05 May 2004 - 01:43
    actually unprofessional, it just looks better!
    #15 altermind on 04 May 2004 - 19:25
    we will see....... I wonder if it's developer friendly *shakes head*
    (2 replies) #16 Sub on 04 May 2004 - 19:45
    Look at the size diffrence between NVIDIA and ATI. The NVIDIA is a bus...


    I'm not sure about you, but even though a jet engine is faster, I'd rather have a 450 CC engine in my car....
    #16.1 alister on 04 May 2004 - 20:33
    Yeah the ATI is much smaller which means less heat and less power consumtion. I have read that the ATI uses about 50% less power. Nvidia suggests a 450 watt power supply while ATI only suggests a 350 watt one ATI wins on these

    Alister
    #16.2 CrimandEvil on 04 May 2004 - 22:22
    Many reviews state how hot the card gets when in is OCed (~20mhz):
    QUOTE

    We were able to overclock the X800XT to 540MHz core and 570MHz memory. That is only a 20MHz core speed increase and a 10MHz memory speed increase which shows the X800XT is very close to maxing out its current frequency limitations.

    At these overclocked settings looping 3dmark at a high resolution resulted in the card and memory chips becoming very hot, in fact it was too hot to touch for more than a few seconds. So if you are going to be doing any serious overclocking with these video cards make sure you have extremely good case air flow.

    [H]ardOCP

    The NV40 on the other hand runs cooler then a 5950U and it can run with a one slot cooler. ATI should win simply on the fact that it can run with a smaller PSU and needs only one Molex connector. With that above quote in mind I would think that many SFF owners would be out of luck too since many SFF have heat related issues. Also it is becoming more and more evident that these cards are CPU limited meaning that you'd have to have a uber highend system (AMD FX, P4 EE) just to get the best performance out of them.

    Fanboys....

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    #17 diamonds on 04 May 2004 - 20:41
    im not saying its the fastest or not, but with my experience with ATI, and the OS i choose to run, Nvidia has always came through. Unlike ATI
    (1 reply) #18 djze on 04 May 2004 - 20:56
    I say the consumer is the winner in this battle.
    #18.1 dhitb on 05 May 2004 - 03:35
    Yup, everyone can bicker for their favorite team all they want, but Nvidia played both hands in order to try and grab the top title, i.e. they went from 8x2 pipe original NV40 to 12/16 configs and attempted to steal some thunder with the GT and Extreme versions all within just a handful of months which would've taken about the span of a year otherwise if the competition wasn't so heated! Even though I'll be sticking with my 9700p for some time to come, technology is being pushed along nicely by the looks of it.
    #19 TweakFu on 04 May 2004 - 21:03
    I can't take the Nvidia/ATI war much more : closes his eyes and dreams of playing Quake with his VooDoo3 : ( yes I know Nvidia bought VooDoo )
    (1 reply) #20 keratosis on 04 May 2004 - 21:10
    The key here is you can buy the ATI card today
    The Nvidia card? I know it isn't vaporware,but maybe
    problems.
    #20.1 CrimandEvil on 05 May 2004 - 06:33
    Gee I'd like to buy from the store you are because as of May 5 2004 12:34 Am MT I can't seem to find a single X800 series card for sale, I do find both X800 series and NV40 series cards for pre order though....
    #21 Kashida on 04 May 2004 - 21:11
    Im gonna take features over marginal gains. I have a 560w PSU and Water Cooling. So I can achieve the "fastest visual processor", regardless of who I pick.
    #22 Ivand on 04 May 2004 - 22:18
    Damn, i want one of those
    (1 reply) #23 DsnBehind on 04 May 2004 - 22:33
    QUOTE
    RADEON X800, world's fastest visual processor


    not to be confused with

    QUOTE
    Power Mac G5, world's fastest personal computer
    #23.1 HappyCar on 05 May 2004 - 03:19
    hahahaha
    but the first one is true!
    #24 Techo on 04 May 2004 - 22:48
    Im a fan of boths camps. Just to say I find NVidia's NV40 video capabilities rather interesting. Waiting for more benchmarking on that. A good card with good 3d and video capabilities is a good thing. Though if you're a pure gamer I might understand why fps is so important even if it's by a few frames

    Also as the drivers for the cards are of course in need of tweaking, I would wait till both camps release updated drivers, and then do more comparisons. At the end the price also dictates what consumers may buy.

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    #25 Playboy on 04 May 2004 - 22:53
    what is the system requirements for this?
    (2 replies) #26 JonathanVP on 04 May 2004 - 23:14
    oh, hell...I'll just buy both (ATI and nVidia) and see which is better.
    #26.1 Ph8l on 04 May 2004 - 23:41
    QUOTE (#26.0)
    oh, hell...I'll just buy both (ATI and nVidia) and see which is better.

    good idea
    #26.2 mezz on 05 May 2004 - 01:59
    After you are finished w/ the compare, give either to me. :-P
    #27 iczman on 04 May 2004 - 23:30
    All I hope if ATi rewrite their OGL thingin' so it won't suck THAT much compared to nVidia's...
    #28 Trek234 on 05 May 2004 - 00:03
    Because performance is so close the one thing that will decide the winner is the price.... If ATI can cut it down maybe $100-200 over Nvidia it will destroy the 6800.
    (3 replies) #29 CrimsonBlur on 05 May 2004 - 00:23
    The 6800's use two power connectors and because of the huge heatsink/fan, take up two slots. So if your AGP slot is right next to your PCI slots, you lose a PCI slot. Is Nvidia supporting PCI Express anytime soon? I know ATI is coming out with an updated version of the X800 at some time in the near future which uses PCI Express, I haven't read anything aobut Nvidia doing that, so I don't know...

    The fact that you need TWO power connectors for the Nvidia card is a major factor right there. I am not ever going to buy a card that needs that much power, nor a card that will block one of my PCI slots. I just won't do it, especially when it has zero performance gains over ATI's card. They're about even on performance, but as far as design goes, ATI again pummels Nvidia by making a smaller, cooler card.
    #29.1 Fanon on 05 May 2004 - 00:36
    Most people don't use that slot mainly for heat purposes. The only slot I have used is my AGP, but then again, most everything else is onboard. I love nForce2
    #29.2 aznx on 05 May 2004 - 01:25
    uh if you knew anything, the 6800 ultra uses barely anymore power than the 9800/5950..so i dont get what your whining about. plus, it is a one slot solution, reference cards werent, production cards are. do your research first please. and also, two molex connectors are just for overhead. not a real biggie.
    #29.3 CrimandEvil on 05 May 2004 - 06:36
    Fanboys Do some research before you make a fool out of yourself.
    #30 donachello on 05 May 2004 - 09:53
    good news...?
    (1 reply) #31 Tikimotel on 05 May 2004 - 10:39
    Tested "far cry" with old 60.72 driver for 6800ultra
    61.11 fixed serious z-culling bug for far cry I believe...
    #31.1 CrimandEvil on 05 May 2004 - 12:36
    What about the IQ? I've been hearing that there are some IQ trade offs for performance with the 61.11 drivers.
    (1 reply) #32 donachello on 05 May 2004 - 14:40
    I just read the full article at ATI.com and uncontrollable dribble from the corner of my mouth as I read the spec... As a hardcore gamer I would buy this tomorrow without even thinking twice about it...

    This is one hell of a card…

    This one piece of hardware on my list for this year…
    #32.1 Summoner on 05 May 2004 - 19:04
    I wouldn't be so quick as to jump on the ATI bandwagon. You should try reading some of the Nvidia reviews and benchmarks for the new 6800 before you make your decision.

    Of course ATI's website is going to paint a picture of their card being the best. They can say anything they want to on their website. You need to read reviews from 3rd parties.

    A true "hardcore gamer" wouldn't just go out and blindly buy a new video card just because it was prettied up on the company's website. A hardcore gamer would take all possibilities into consideration, then make an educated decision. Your behavior is more along the lines of a "consumer whore"
    #33 SoLiD_MasteR on 05 May 2004 - 16:44
    Waiting for x800xt....
    #34 DodgeViper on 05 May 2004 - 19:41
    It's not all about the best card even by a few FPS, the best card is the one which is the best value for money.

    For example Nvidia 6800 @ £600 = 3D mark score = 15000
    Radeon X800@ £500 = 3D mark score = 14500

    So you can see that it's all about the money and performance. Out of an 9800 Pro and 9800XT, I'll go for 9800 Pro anyday cus there's very little performance difference for the huge price difference which can almost be double.

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