main

Red Hat aims desktop Linux at Microsoft

malebolgia   on 04 May 2004 - 14:22 · 23 comments & 1085 views

Advertisement (Why?)
Opening a new chapter in its 10-year history and a new front in its war against Microsoft, leading Linux seller Red Hat on Tuesday plans to announce its first version of the open-source operating system for desktop computers.

Red Hat's primary target has been Unix, the operating system on which Linux is based, running on higher-powered networked computers called servers. But with its Red Hat Desktop product, the Raleigh, N.C.-based company directly aims for Microsoft and its Windows stronghold. Red Hat initially won't tackle the entire desktop software market, aiming instead for corporations whose employees need only basic computing features such as word processing and Web access. But the company does have bigger aspirations.

"The ambitions are grand, but the expectations are going to be moderate at the outset," Chief Executive Matthew Szulik said in an interview. "What we're focused on for the next 12 to 18 months is doing a great job in the enterprise, the government and academic marketplaces." As with its existing server products, Red Hat will sell the desktop version as an annual subscription that includes support and software updates through the Red Hat Network. But it won't sell them individually, instead offering 50-computer subscriptions for $3,500 annually--about $70 per PC per year.

News source: C|Net News.com


Style XP 2.04
Change log

Better Support for Icons.
Now supports 96 & 128 size icons.
Can apply themes without Icons, Sounds, Cursors, Backgrounds, and Screensavers.
Can keep the icon in a zip file without extracting it (saves space).
Can cleanly restore Windows XP default icons.
Uninstall restores XP defaults.

Post a comment · Send to friend Comments · There are 23 additional comments
(4 replies) #1 kljs on 04 May 2004 - 14:24
COSTLY
#1.1 cyclingplatypus on 04 May 2004 - 14:33
QUOTE (#1.0)
COSTLY

That's what I was thinking. I read that 4 times just to make sure that the crack that they're smoking wasn't clogging my brain. $70 a year for support and updates???
#1.2 ZaheerChothia on 04 May 2004 - 14:37
Yes, I know but you get loads of software (office software, GIMP (Alternative to Photoshop), media software, and lots more...). Red Hat Network is also really good and has tons more features in comparison to Windows Update. I think it is a little expensive but overall it's not too bad.
#1.3 nic on 04 May 2004 - 15:12
yeah, but Red Hat Networks doesn't make that loads of software. In fact, that loads of software is free to download from anyone. $70 a year is pretty steep for a support contract. I'd rather have an incident based contract, and the softare for free. But hey, they're just trying to make a buck like the rest of us.
#1.4 theMaxx on 04 May 2004 - 16:06
$70 a year so that load of softwares keeps working among each others and updated for you. No need to hunt down all the files yourself. Makes sense when you have many station in that situation.
#2 markjensen on 04 May 2004 - 14:39
Well, this is definitely not aimed at home users!
(3 replies) #3 aristotle-dude on 04 May 2004 - 14:49
It is aimed at the corporate desktop. Business like to pay money and get support.

Btw. How much support do you get with your legal copy of XP? 0?

This looks like a software support contract for desktops in a business. In that light 70 bucks is not bad compare to how much MS support costs per incident.
#3.1 Varsity on 04 May 2004 - 15:04
QUOTE (#3.0)
Btw. How much support do you get with your legal copy of XP? 0?

Exactly as much as I have ever needed, thank goodness.
#3.2 Starman on 04 May 2004 - 18:37
Same here. Never had to call MS in my life....or Apple for that matter.
#3.3 Matt8109 on 04 May 2004 - 20:42
QUOTE
How much support do you get with your legal copy of XP? 0?

You get 3, actually.
#4 ThunderRiver on 04 May 2004 - 15:13
Red Hat can try, but since now most of the client workstation are Fedora core based, it will take much longer development time than it used to. Remember Red Hat was saying that Fedora is released as a final version every one or two years, so if users want newer features right now, they either have to compile it themselves or wait for dependency craven RPM. Either way, I am interested to see how Red Hat manages to eat that big cookie.
(3 replies) #5 Jason on 04 May 2004 - 15:14
Didn't Redhat say Linux is not for the desktop use Windows a while ago ?
#5.1 ThunderRiver on 04 May 2004 - 15:21
I never heard of it.. but I can break Red Hat faster than Windows. In the latest release, Fedora only sets up root account, so if you make any mistake you are doomed. You can of course sets up a user account later, but people are lazy you know?
Fedora is basically following the same path as Windows now a day, without requireing user to create a separate user account from root or Administrator.
#5.2 Mav Phoenix on 04 May 2004 - 18:02
Yeah, I think it was their CEO or Pres that said that.
#5.3 markjensen on 05 May 2004 - 00:17
QUOTE (#5.1)
In the latest release, Fedora only sets up root account, so if you make any mistake you are doomed. You can of course sets up a user account later, but people are lazy you know?

I have Fedora, and I recall being put into a screen and asked to add a user... It was optional, if I recall (though I always set one up for myself).

What does Windows do? Most users buy it preloaded, so I assume it is an admin account? I may be wrong. It probably does a similar thing to Linux on full load, too. Does it force you to set up an unpriveledged user account?
(1 reply) #6 StuRReaL on 04 May 2004 - 15:27
the first desktop linux? So Linspire and Gentoo, suse are not meant to be used on the desktop?

There are four things linux really needs to get sorted 1) users permissions, this is a pain for a single user. 2) gfx systems, sorry but windows is more responsive than XFree or Xorg-X11. 3) Sound (shoddy at best) 4) software installation.

Once thats done we have a windows contender but all that said I like my Gentoo install its fun to tinker with every now and again, but linux is tons more breakable than windows
#6.1 PseudoRandomDragon on 04 May 2004 - 16:38
Sound on Linux works fine for me and software installation is easy thanks to RPMs.
(3 replies) #7 Knight' on 04 May 2004 - 16:50
QUOTE
Unix, the operating system on which Linux is based


Not true, Linux is not based on Unix, it's just POSIX compliant. Stupid reporter, shows what he knows.
#7.1 nic on 04 May 2004 - 19:52
Don't you think you are being a little harsh?

Sure, it may not be exactly "based on Unix", but is and always has been seen as a worth while alternative to "Unix" that runs on cheaper hardware then what SUN or what have you was putting out.
#7.2 Gumboot on 04 May 2004 - 20:06
As far as I know, the design of Linux was based on Sun's UNIX, since that was the OS that Linus Torvalds was using at the time.
#7.3 gawdflesh on 05 May 2004 - 01:50
Actually, I believe Linus was using Minix when he decided to create his own OS.
(1 reply) #8 parimal_kumar on 04 May 2004 - 21:51
One thing that always struck me as lacking in most of the major linux distros (Fedora/Redhat, Suse, Mandrake) is decent support for advanced networking, such as VPN, WAN-PPP, etc. In order to use those things I have to install and configure 5 different packages, without a half decent wizard to connect them all. (Yes, I would like a wizard as opposed to configuring 5 different .conf files manually!)

So much so for linux being a network os...
#8.1 markjensen on 05 May 2004 - 00:13
And what does it take to get Windows to do these things? About the same amount of extra apps, I would assume. And, they are pretty much all on the Linux CDs, unless you want a specific version of an app. However, with Windows you do get a nice graphical interface to set these packages up. Any advanced tweaking beyond the GUI menus must be done in the registry. Many of the Linux apps have a much simpler GUI, if any. However, all the control is in a thoroughly commented .conf file (many of these files are over 80% comments!).

Linux is very much a networking OS. In some ways more than Windows. However, it does lag WAY behind in the GUI setup (though you can find front-end apps for configuration, they aren't as well-done as Windows' GUI menus).

If your conclusion was Linux is not as easy to set up as Windows for many simple tasks, I would agree with you. However your final statement was incorrect.

Commenting has either been disabled on this article or you are not logged in. Click here to login or register, its free!

Note: Anonymous commenting is disabled in order to keep the quality of responses to a high standard.

Advertisement (Why?)