Microsoft has launched an effort to produce a version of Windows for high-performance computing, a move seen as a direct attack on a Linux stronghold.
High-performance computing once required massive, expensive, exotic machines from companies such as Cray, but the field is being remade by the arrival of clusters of low-end machines. While the trend could be considered an opportunity for Microsoft, which has long been the leading operating-system company, Linux has actually become the favored software used on these clusters.
Now Microsoft has begun its response, forming its High Performance Computing team and planning a new OS version called Windows Server HPC Edition. Kyril Faenov is director of the effort, and Microsoft is hiring new managers, programmers, testers and others. The Redmond, Wash.-based software colossus has its work cut out in the market--and knows it. "Winning in this important space against entrenched Linux/open-source software competition requires creativity, innovation, speed of execution, and deep engagements with hardware, software and academic partners," reads a job posting for a program manager responsible for setting up the team's academic partnerships.
News source: C|Net News.com
High-performance computing once required massive, expensive, exotic machines from companies such as Cray, but the field is being remade by the arrival of clusters of low-end machines. While the trend could be considered an opportunity for Microsoft, which has long been the leading operating-system company, Linux has actually become the favored software used on these clusters.
Now Microsoft has begun its response, forming its High Performance Computing team and planning a new OS version called Windows Server HPC Edition. Kyril Faenov is director of the effort, and Microsoft is hiring new managers, programmers, testers and others. The Redmond, Wash.-based software colossus has its work cut out in the market--and knows it. "Winning in this important space against entrenched Linux/open-source software competition requires creativity, innovation, speed of execution, and deep engagements with hardware, software and academic partners," reads a job posting for a program manager responsible for setting up the team's academic partnerships.
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Jason, it's they're.
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e.g.
I'm a lamer who does not know his grammar and I like Cereal (wrong!)
I'm a lamer who does not know his grammar and I like Corn Flakes (there ya go!)
Unless you speak German, in which case you capitalize EVERY noun (but that's off topic; however, maybe our grammar-impaired poster is a German-speaker at heart
and no, i was not saying that YOU were stupid.
sorry if you took it that way,
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I'm a lamer who does not know his grammar and I like Corn Flakes (there ya go!)
So, do you use your Cereal Port to download your Corn Flakes?
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He meant only PROPER nouns, as opposed to common nouns.
that is all on the subject, take it or leave it.
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Do you think I care?
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Windows has matured so much that its an ideal progression to move in to the super computer league and I welcome it.
those lying ATI scum can kiss my enormously nicely sized butt!
Looks good that MS is moving into the super PC highway - go MS
and still ati has better image quality on most popular games like halo, TR: AOD, and far cry, prove me wrong on that and ill break my ati card were i stand
Back up that response and I'll break my nVidia card where I stand. If you're referring to nVidia's recent problems with Shader 2.0, that's because you seem not to have heard of the recent nVidia driver releases which have solved this problem (albiet at the cost of some framerate). I believe you are listening to third-hand accounts of this problem, and I'll bet you haven't even experienced any so-called nVidia "image problems" yourself. I'll stick with nVidia because I like their drivers more. Also, about the article: Windows... for supercomputers... how many supercomputer users are going to need a slick interface? It seems unnecessary... but maybe Microsoft is trying to broaden the supercomputer market (boy, what a potential source of income
Competition helps consumers. Who cares who is evil. It's only in your head anyway.
These are guys with Bipolar Disorder.
Apple is evil!!!
there. settled.
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"HYPER" Marketing - I need to see it before I believe it.
P.S. Ok Guys the "Windows vs. Linux" debate is getting a little tired too. Both exist. Both NEED to Exist. Both have their strengths & weaknesses - If you want to discuss the Technical aspects thats fine - but calling each other names like little kids serves NO-ONE - end of story!!!!
well said
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but still, i dont mean this to be flaim bait.
yeah monthly patching does sound right, but sometimes its every couple of weeks. very erratic.
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Yeah - they just call it 'upgrading to the latest build'.
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Clustering in Windows Server 2003 is pretty... uhm... how to put it without sounding like I want to bash the OS... well, it doesn't suit my needs, to say the least.
Linux clustering is cheap, portable and efficient because it can be scaled and modified for specific requirements.
When we talk clusters, we talk corporation who actually have a clue on what they're doing, so I doubt the "it's going to be easy and require less training" argument would win.
Plus when you're licensing 1600 machines, you know...
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I agree. Microsoft's greatest flaw is its tendency to try and create software that will do everything for everybody. While this approach works well with desktop operating systems like XP—which are designed to allow millions of users to use thousands of different programs to do hundreds of different things—I can't see this approach working well with systems that essentially try and do one thing well, e.g., climate modeling or DNA mapping.
You can't build a Greyhound bus for a client looking for a AA fuel dragster. I wish them well, but my gut tells me that this is going to be a fierce uphill battle that Microsoft isn't going to win.
But then again, what do I know?
- "Windows for supercomputers"!?
- Oh, sh*t - there goes the planet.
Also, why is my mind seeing the MCP (Master Control Program) rearing it's ugly spinning head again...?
Linux does not NEED to exist. People are just to cheap to pay for Microsoft Software. We allready have Unix OS for more powerfull servers. Linux did not change life....
Windows on Super Computer? Yeah, it's nice competition to Solaris, AIX, Tru64 Unix.
P.S. If it wasn't for Unix based Operating Systems the "Internet" would not Exist!!!!!
Um the free markets are working, you are free to choose what you want now.
As this is never likely to happen, this is pure vanilla speculation, microsoft may not up the cost of their products. Microsoft COULD charge that, they could also keep the price the same, or lower it.
Again, prove that what you have stated as fact is true........you can't can you. It is never likely to happen so you cannot state that this is the case, it is your speculation.
Actually if it was not for development by US Defence and ARPANET the internet would not exist, Not sure about the Unix Part. What did the DEC PDP-10 Run? I have seen it listed that it used TOPS-10, TOPS-20, TWENEX. Are these unix based??
"The short story is that the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency led the development of wide area packet switching starting in 1969 with the ARPANET"
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Just as a note, there have been court cases against Microsoft for making their prices too high. If they make them too high, they will get sued.
And you are speculating that his speculation is incorrect.
i happen to think that microsoft's charge fo software is low considering what you get with it.
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