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Windows XP SP2 RC2 Delayed

Tom Warren   on 26 May 2004 - 19:49 · 98 comments & 34458 views

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News early this week that Microsoft is trying to iron out a bug with NX CPU execution protection technology only spelled bad news. We can confirm that RC2 isn't likely to be released to beta testers until early next week. 2138 is the latest compile internally but doesn't hold the golden rc2 tagging yet.

This only points to 2139/2140 being the RC2 build and going out to testers within a week. Initially Microsoft were aiming for a June RTM for Windows XP SP2 but delays with security center bugs and application compatibility problems have delayed the highly anticipated update until July. Because of this, development of Longhorn is almost at a standstill whilst the main build team focus on XPSP2 instead of Longhorn. Many developers internally are itching to get back to Longhorn development naturally. According to internal sources 2137(xpsp.040520-1754) was the build that the NX problems have come from.

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(1 reply) #1 Dayon on 26 May 2004 - 19:50
So long as they get it right, they can take as long as they want. A rushed release would be good for no one.
#1.1 STV on 26 May 2004 - 19:52
exactly. also, fixing known bugs is always a good thing before pushing an rc out.

STV
(3 replies) #2 slimy on 26 May 2004 - 19:53
i agree
but july???????
damn
#2.1 STV on 26 May 2004 - 19:56
better than august, september, october, november, december, or next year, right?

STV
#2.2 Mav Phoenix on 26 May 2004 - 20:06
nm, misread.
#2.3 mipra on 26 May 2004 - 21:27
aaagghh!!!
#3 leebobs on 26 May 2004 - 19:59
(5 replies) #4 Jason on 26 May 2004 - 19:59
Its good to see that product quality goes before release dates.
#4.1 toadeater on 27 May 2004 - 03:00
Ofcourse, one might also argue that if Windows wasn't bug-ridden, insecure, bloated ***** to begin with, there wouldn't be any need for such a haphazard, unplanned and hasty patch.

Now, would you like to bet that SP2 will introduce a ton of new bugs, as well as breaking many existing programs?
#4.2 Joshie on 27 May 2004 - 03:38
Living in the past takes years off your life.
#4.3 Jason on 27 May 2004 - 12:47
I never understand this term bloat, what one calls bloat another calls a helpfull feature.
#4.4 Knight' on 27 May 2004 - 14:18
QUOTE (#4.2)
Living in the past takes years off your life.

Wouldn't you sorta stay the same age?
#4.5 elliot on 27 May 2004 - 16:19
I think he was trying to make a point that windows hasn't been "bug-ridden, insecure, bloated" for a long time now.
(3 replies) #5 Barisko on 26 May 2004 - 20:05
when is the final planned?
#5.1 Mav Phoenix on 26 May 2004 - 20:08
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Initially Microsoft were aiming for a June RTM for Windows XP SP2 but delays with security center bugs and application compatability problems have delayed the highly anticipated update until July.


Not exactly a long article...
#5.2 mufdvr3669 on 26 May 2004 - 20:26
Could you break that down a little more for me
#5.3 nw_raptor on 27 May 2004 - 09:05
for mufdvr3669
QUOTE
July


there ya go mate
#6 StaticX on 26 May 2004 - 20:09
oh well...
(14 replies) #7 johnston on 26 May 2004 - 20:11
Darn was looking forward to getting it on my system, as i need to format anyway, ah well i can wait another week if theres gonna be less bugs and more secure
#7.1 jhaygood86 on 26 May 2004 - 20:25
I was kinda waiting for the release so that I can reformat as well, I really need it. Disapointing not seeing RC2 on the Windows Beta website.. Well, I guess I can wait another week.
#7.2 MuD on 26 May 2004 - 20:43
I'm in the same boat as you guys. Still running build 2096. But I guess we'll just have to wait.
#7.3 Colonel_Angus on 26 May 2004 - 21:03
excuse my ignorance, but why do windows users talk about having to reformat all the time?

this isn't ment to be a troll, just an honest question.

-the Colonel
#7.4 Jason on 26 May 2004 - 21:04
I format yearly and thats all, it helps if you do not install sh1t on your computers.
#7.5 incubusdaemon on 26 May 2004 - 21:05
No system remains as efficient as it did during the first boot after numerous software upgrades, installs, uninstalls, driver installs, etc occur. Reformating brings it back into that pristine state.
#7.6 MuD on 26 May 2004 - 21:47
QUOTE (#7.5)
No system remains as efficient as it did during the first boot after numerous software upgrades, installs, uninstalls, driver installs, etc occur. Reformating brings it back into that pristine state.

Exactly. Windows (any version) slows down after time even if you don't do much with it. Error messages and such are more prone to occur the longer you have it installed. So techies like us (and especially hardcore gamers who need every bit of speed) regularly reformat our hard drives to keep Windows in an optimal state.
#7.7 Andareed on 26 May 2004 - 21:57
I like to format whenever a new SP is released. I'll slipstream it so I don't have any old-SP files left behind.
#7.8 ev0| on 27 May 2004 - 00:24
This is totally wrong. it just shows you how ignorant most people are. if you know how to maintain windows, it does not slow down at all. dumbasses
#7.9 Dale on 27 May 2004 - 00:37
haha, i'm going to be honest..

i like to screw up windows

i go through the system files, try to find out everything about windows.. if i screw it up, i got everything backed up.. and i jus go reformat
#7.10 MuD on 27 May 2004 - 01:24
QUOTE (#7.
This is totally wrong. it just shows you how ignorant most people are. if you know how to maintain windows, it does not slow down at all. dumbasses

Oh yeah, and who the f*ck are you to tell us we're ignorant? Think you can do better? Get your trolling *ss out of here before I b*tch-slap you.
#7.11 Bud on 27 May 2004 - 01:47
Finally a voice of reason that bites at the asses of trolls. Cheers.
#7.12 Joshie on 27 May 2004 - 03:47
Truth is, third-parties suck raw ass when it comes to uninstallers. In the perfect computer, uninstalling a program would completely remove all traces of it, making the computer as if the software was never there. However, this almost never happens, unless it's one of those programs--frowned upon these days for not being 'user-friendly'--that you extract to its own folder, and it keeps all its configuration data in that folder, and you can just delete it and it's gone.

Some companies use the excuse that people might install their programs again down the road, so they leave all the settings laying around for future installations to use. Because, naturally, even though we'd have to reconfigure the damn thing's actual settings, it's important to keep the recently opened files list.

What slows down Windows? A lot of it is MS's own fault, yeah. The Windows environment doesn't do much to encourage keeping software as independent as possible (for efficient removal and management), but at the same time, the developers out there could put a little bit of freakin' effort into working around that and doing some bloody innovating in terms of how software resides on the system. For all the whining people do about how MS should keep their OS barebones, they sure put most of the innovative burden on the Redmond giant.
#7.13 DsnBehind on 27 May 2004 - 07:38
QUOTE (#7.
if you know how to maintain windows, it does not slow down at all.

Actually, that's true.
#7.14 Colonel_Angus on 27 May 2004 - 14:22
QUOTE
Truth is, third-parties suck raw ass when it comes to uninstallers. In the perfect computer, uninstalling a program would completely remove all traces of it, making the computer as if the software was never there. However, this almost never happens, unless it's one of those programs--frowned upon these days for not being 'user-friendly'--that you extract to its own folder, and it keeps all its configuration data in that folder, and you can just delete it and it's gone.


People rag an RPM a lot for the dependency issues, but it really is a blessing when it comes to software installation management. All a user has to do is issue 'rpm -e packagename' and all traces of the program are gone. I wish microsoft would develop a similar database driven system for software management.

Imagine, put msofficexp.i386.rpm, winzip.i386.rpm, grandtheftauto3.i386.rpm, msvisualstudio.i386.rpm, and PervasiveSQL.i386.rpm all on a network share, issue 'rpm -ivh *.rpm', and have everything installed.

Sure beats babysitting each individual programs installation wizard one at a time
(9 replies) #8 Zeo on 26 May 2004 - 20:29
I say release it in October. Heck even November. I don't think anyone here realizes just how many bugs and issues are invovled with SP2. The last count I had from internal testers was that SP2 had known issues of upwards of 1,000 with atleast 85 tier 1 issues(significant issues with future patches or service packs being necessary). SP2 is being rushed significantly ahead of usual MS projects right now, they invested heavily in security back in February 02, but now it's just about getting it out to market. SP2 isin't ready yet, I've been a tester and lots is being ignored in the name of getting it out. What would we have to lose it if MS waited till october, NOTHING- i venture.

Besides Slammer and Sasser, the internal firewall would have taken care of that as long as you had virus software too. SP2 need's more time to bake. Can anyone tell me why they need it in July, instead of October or even better November?
#8.1 JohnSK on 26 May 2004 - 20:39
I want SP2 ASAP

But seriously, M$ programmers and beta testers should work harder - we've been like waiting around 3 months for that 9 MB Rollup fix (that was a collection of previous patches)?

That's a little too long a wait for the $$$ that Windows costs!

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#8.2 ev0| on 26 May 2004 - 20:45
it takes them forever - look at the progress OS X made between XP's release (2001) and now. We have better hardware, faster machines but an OS that is getting behind ;0(
#8.3 MuD on 26 May 2004 - 20:58
I have to agree with you on that one. Microsoft has billions of dollars in cash flow, so it can surely hire a couple of hundred more programmers to get the job done. I mean, does it really take this long to write the software? I'm aware of the "better late and bug-free" than "early and buggy" mentality, which I totally agree with. However, Microsoft seems like they're in some kind of a slump lately.

A few months ago I read that Longhorn was supposed to come out in the middle of 2005, now they postponed it to the end of 2006. And that's just Longhorn! I've heard that Blackcomb was supposed to be the real deal here. You know, a "totally written from scratch" O.S. that DOESN'T contain a Registry and other nasty stuff. It was supposed to be a revolution for computers. But now the future looks bleak. I doubt Microsoft will keep the Blackcomb idea. And that's just sad.

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#8.4 Jason on 26 May 2004 - 21:02
QUOTE (#8.3)
I've heard that Blackcomb was supposed to be the real deal here. You know, a "totally written from scratch" O.S. that DOESN'T contain a Registry and other nasty stuff

You will never get a totally rewritten OS they will always build on the previous one.

Although the first NT OS was built from the ground up but I doubt it will happen again as they would be fools to throw away their previous work and start again.
#8.5 Mav Phoenix on 26 May 2004 - 21:02
MuD, you've been out of the loop it would seem LH is now what BC was supposed to be. LH is being rewritten to an extent, all new APIs (no Win32 but WinFX) and everything.

You know what though as much as they test SP2 it's still going to have problems on some people's machines. So it will be "late and buggy".
#8.6 neufuse on 26 May 2004 - 21:18

win32 will still be in longhorn, they require it for compatability
#8.7 Mav Phoenix on 26 May 2004 - 21:22
I know but LH itself will be written using WinFX as will all new programs for it.
#8.8 Skyfrog on 27 May 2004 - 02:38
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Although the first NT OS was built from the ground up


I thought they based it on OS/2 (the version they were working on before they parted ways with IBM).
#8.9 Octol on 27 May 2004 - 09:31
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Can anyone tell me why they need it in July, instead of October or even better November?


As a service pack primarily concerned with security, Microsoft is presumably rushing to help secure the computers of all the casual users out there who can't do the job themselves in an effort to reduce the number of compromised computers out there spreading garbage.

Unfortunately, I think this is a case of bringing the horse to water. Microsoft programmers can work on security until they're blue in the face, but until the average Windows user becomes aware that security is even an issue that must be dealt with, it's all for naught.

Case in point: I have a friend who started using computers in 1996. He has used a computer almost daily since that time—mostly to surf the Internet. At this late date, his skills are still limited to using a web browser, an email client, and an IM client. That's pretty much it. Oh yeah, he can install and use a program from a CD (sometimes) if it contains an autoinstaller and puts a "start" icon on his desktop.

In a recent phone conversation, he started complaing to me about all the weird stuff his computer was doing, so I took him through the process of downloading, installing, and running Spybot S&D. I had to make him do it—and he did—but he bitched and moaned the whole time about what a hassle it was. He flat out didn't want to do it.

Does anybody think this guy is going to acquire and install SP2 on his own initiative? NOT! And unfortunately, this guy is representative of a huge percentage of computer users out there. Nevertheless, I think Microsoft feels compelled to make this service pack available with all due speed to assist those individuals who can and will take advantage of it.
(2 replies) #9 Xenos on 26 May 2004 - 20:47
why does this not surprise me?
#9.1 Jason on 26 May 2004 - 21:03
Because you know they are after releasing a quality service pack, thats why it doesn't surprise you on the delay.

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#9.2 mikey on 26 May 2004 - 22:11
because nothing surprises you anymore
#10 McG on 26 May 2004 - 21:02
Take your time, MS. Just dont screw this up.
(2 replies) #11 kaffra on 26 May 2004 - 21:03
^this is a free update, unlke the other os
opps wrong reply
#11.1 Jason on 26 May 2004 - 21:06
From a company beginning with A ?
#11.2 MuD on 26 May 2004 - 21:50
QUOTE (#11.0)
^this is a free update, unlke the other os
opps wrong reply

You're right though. No software company is supposed to charge people for "updates". EVER.
(7 replies) #12 chriscustom on 26 May 2004 - 21:10
MICROSOFT IS SO SLOW...I AM REALLY THINKING LINUX,THEY COULD RELEASE PARTS OF THIS SP2 FOR SECURITY PURPOSES IN THE MEANTIME AND THEY ARE ALSO HOLDING BACK DIRECT X 9.0C THIS IS CAUSING MAJOR PROBLEMS FOR ATI AMD AND NVIDIA TOO NAME A FEW,MICROSLOW
#12.1 Chris123NT on 26 May 2004 - 21:15
So you would rather have them release it now and have all sorts of bugs and people jamming the support lines because something royally screws up?

I say let them do this right, they're paying attention to security and quality for the first time ever with SP2 and they want to do this right. So let them do what they want to, and unless you can write a service pack for windows then STFU.
#12.2 tazdevl on 26 May 2004 - 21:20
Ummm 9.0c is needed for SM 3.0. Doesn't impact ATI at all since R420 GPUs don't support SM 3.0.. Also given the fact that games using partial SM 3.0 won't be out for a while and the 9.0c pre-release is with the developers, how exactly is it holding things up if the games aren't finished?

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#12.3 Jason on 26 May 2004 - 21:22
They have realesd parts its called RC1 build and show me a game that uses DirectX 9.0c or where its giving ATI / Nvidia MAJOR Problems ?
#12.4 chriscustom on 26 May 2004 - 21:31
some people even dont know ,that they dont know !
Microsoft staff unhappy over stock benefits cuts.

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#12.5 markjensen on 26 May 2004 - 22:23
Easy on the caps lock there, chris...

Sounds like Microsoft found a problem with part of the Service Pack, and is getting it fixed up right. No need in them releasing a pack that causes 1% of the people problems, only to release a patch to fix that problem soon after.
#12.6 Joshie on 27 May 2004 - 03:51
If you can handle Linux, you should be skilled enough to manage even pre-SP1 Windows XP without ever getting a virus, trojan, or major system crisis.
#12.7 Test Zero on 27 May 2004 - 07:52
QUOTE (#12.0)
THEY COULD RELEASE PARTS OF THIS SP2

They have done. It's called RC1.
(1 reply) #13 TGD on 26 May 2004 - 21:16
I'd rather Microsoft took an extra 4-5 months if it meant I got something better at the end. Rushing will only mean we'll have to wait for an SP3.
#13.1 tazdevl on 26 May 2004 - 21:22
It'll probably happen anyway. Look @ Win2K.
(7 replies) #14 x-scratch on 26 May 2004 - 21:16
im thinking of switching over to imacs since mircos--t run on turtle power and are slow at updating things release the rc2 to people who do not run amd bit versions
#14.1 Mav Phoenix on 26 May 2004 - 21:24
Learn English or seek help.
#14.2 tazdevl on 26 May 2004 - 21:32
My advice, put the crack pipe down.
#14.3 hotrod on 26 May 2004 - 21:48
Sounds like you have a good idea for yourself. while you're at it, why don't you find another forum to troll on. KTHXBYE
#14.4 mufdvr3669 on 27 May 2004 - 00:08
^^^ Maybe you should listen to your own advice.
#14.5 OptiPlex on 27 May 2004 - 01:34
420 is over... lay off the weed
#14.6 x-scratch on 27 May 2004 - 05:37
my advice for u is to stay off the computer little boy so save your little a@@ eminem insults for somebody else because your remarks dont mean crap 2 me
#14.7 mufdvr3669 on 27 May 2004 - 21:36
^^^ haha, a fan
#15 Dwarden on 26 May 2004 - 21:21
hmm i guess i was right about build 2140 soon i collect bets ... lol
#16 bangbang023 on 26 May 2004 - 21:35
Let them get it right, that's what I say. As long as I don't have to pay $125 to upgrade, they can take their time.
#17 Ficman on 26 May 2004 - 21:43
Shocking....
(1 reply) #18 one321 on 26 May 2004 - 21:44
Release it now with none of the new patches and fixes!!! I need it I need it!

J/K
#18.1 mikey on 26 May 2004 - 22:12
i bet if they released the setup and told people there was nothing in it you'd get millions of people installing it
(1 reply) #19 Ely on 26 May 2004 - 22:15
They are taking time because they want to release a quality product, So be it.
Im sure the trolls here are the first to complain too when they find any little bug, but they dont have a patience either to wait for a release.

If you are so desperate, get one of the leaked builds or something, I'm using 2126 and it looks quite stable to me.
#19.1 mufdvr3669 on 27 May 2004 - 00:10
2126 was pretty stable for me, the only major bug was when I right clicked on the start menu or the menu at the bottom of the screen, they would disappear and would come back in about 15 seconds all the while slowing my computer down to a crawl because it seemed like it was doing some kind of task. For some reason I was doing that, can't remember why, but it was really annoying.
(2 replies) #20 twyst3d on 26 May 2004 - 22:33
i dont see why they intergrate that security bullsh*t into sp2 i have no use for it its annoying as hell if u disable the firewall and disable autoupdates and half the people i help (i work for msn ts) dont even have sp1 on theyre pc what makes microsoft think they will upgrade, the firewall is crap, but not as much as security center is
#20.1 Ely on 27 May 2004 - 00:51
QUOTE

i dont see why they intergrate that security bullsh*t into sp2 i have no use for it its annoying as hell if u disable the firewall and disable autoupdates and half the people i help (i work for msn ts) dont even have sp1 on theyre pc what makes microsoft think they will upgrade, the firewall is crap, but not as much as security center is


What the heck are you talking about? you can easily disable the firewall and antivirus checking or updates and tell the security center NOT to give you any warnings and it will not.
I doubt it you have used the latest builds. let's leave alone that you work for MS.