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Amazon goes to court to fire Toysrus.com

malebolgia   on 27 June 2004 - 02:29 · 16 comments & 1091 views

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Amazon has filed a counter lawsuit against Toys R Us. Toys R Us last month accusing Amazon of breaching its exclusive rights for toys, games and baby stuff sold on Amazon. Now Amazon is fighting back asking for Toys R Us to pay more than $750M in damages, and for its contract with Toys R Us to be eliminated.

Amazon has filed suit in New Jersey, seeking to scrap its distribution deal with Toysrus.com and claiming $750m in damages from the online subsidiary of Toys R Us. This is a counterblast against the giant toy retailer which filed suit in New Jersey last month, accusing Amazon of breaching its exclusive rights for toys, games and baby stuff sold on Amazon. Toysrus.com has paid Amazon $200m since 2000 for co-branded solus tenancy rights for toys and baby goods on the site. On the strength of its Amazon deal, Toysrus.com stopped selling goods through its own website. Its $50m-a- year tenancy agreement expires in 2010.

Amazon claims in its countersuit that Toysrus.com "failed to effectively choose the top toys and baby products and to keep products in stock," The Seattle Times reports. "During peak holiday buying weeks last year, Toysrus.com was out of stock on more than 20 per cent of its most popular products... Only by enabling more sellers to sell these products — and only by doing so quickly, before the next holiday selling season - can Amazon.com begin to make up for (Toysrus.com's) failures to provide adequate selection and to keep top-selling products in stock."

News source: The Register


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(1 reply) #1 soloredd on 27 Jun 2004 - 02:34
Amazon is right about the holiday complaint. 2 years ago I was shopping for some stuff a friend's son and couldn't find crap on Amazon.com but I went into the actual ToysRUs store and found it. I also have had problems with items being out of stock even in a non-holiday time of year.

I don't blame them one bit for the countersuit, actually.
#1.1 Mav Phoenix on 27 Jun 2004 - 02:39
Good point.
(2 replies) #2 Yvo on 27 Jun 2004 - 02:51
Funny how Toysrus.com still goes to Amazon, you would think that they would be on their own by now
#2.1 ec4912 on 27 Jun 2004 - 03:09
Not while they are under a contract with each other.
#2.2 phiberoptik on 27 Jun 2004 - 19:38
They were on their own years ago, and the store was much easier to browse.. It even had actual items they stock in the store, not like it is now, where it is geared towards online purchases only. Kinda sucks.
(4 replies) #3 theyarecomingforyou on 27 Jun 2004 - 12:23
Amazon has gotten bigger than Toy's R Us expected and obviously they haven't been able to keep up the supply of toys. I'm sure there were parts in the contract that allowed for Amazon's actions so that they wouldn't get hurt if Toy's R Us messed up.

It all depends upon the contract, but Amazon will probably win this.
#3.1 DrunkenMaster on 27 Jun 2004 - 21:56
Actually, its not the whole truth.

Toy's R US revenue has gone down by over 40% in the last decade. Why? People are having less children.
It was in the paper today.
#3.2 theyarecomingforyou on 27 Jun 2004 - 22:55
Yeah, but parents tend to buy their kids more toys nowadays. I think Toy's R Us have just become out of touch with what kids want.
#3.3 YaddaMe on 28 Jun 2004 - 00:49
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Toy's R US revenue has gone down by over 40% in the last decade. Why? People are having less children.


No, it's because of Wal-Mart. plain & simple.

Down 40% over past 10 yrs, and 10yrs ago is when the first Supercenters started popping up. True WalMart sold toys before then, but nothing compared to what the Supercenters did for sales.
Every holiday season WalMart keys in on toys as their loss-leader... something no toy store can do with toys being their only product.

Toy manufacturers have even gone to great lengths to limit WalMart's market share by offer exclusive deals to Toy-r-Us & other chains in order to keep them afloat.

In early 2004 2 toy chain went under, and a third filed bankruptcy... not because of less children, but because of WalMart's 2003 attack on toy pricing.
#3.4 rogerroger on 28 Jun 2004 - 04:33
I agree with YaddaMe. Big-box retailers are responsible. It is very easy to pick up quality toys while shopping for groceries or other items at large retailers like Walmart, Super Target and Super Kmart. Why would you ever have to run to a seperate store!
#4 nic on 27 Jun 2004 - 19:45
i was trying to get toys for my nephews and nieces last christmas from amazon.com, everything was out of stock. Even 3 weeks before christmas. It was really bad. I don't blame amazon.
#5 DigitalDude on 27 Jun 2004 - 20:22
I guess amazon doesnt wanna be a toys r us kid anymore
#6 musicmaster on 27 Jun 2004 - 21:59
i havent shopped in toysrus in years...
(1 reply) #7 Randall_Lind on 28 Jun 2004 - 01:04
Toys R Us really sucks I worked there 5 years ago at christmas time. My job was to keep the lot clear of carts and they would not even let me in the store to go to the restroom.

I quit after 2 weeks.
#7.1 Kevine on 29 Jun 2004 - 18:22
rofl!
That sounds like something from a Ben Stiller or Will Ferrell movie.
#8 Xenobane on 28 Jun 2004 - 11:33
Look! The bookstore over there is sueing the toystore over the other side because they sell toys!

Geez! gimme a break.

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