EU suspend Microsoft sanctions
Posted by Mr magoo on 27 June 2004 - 22:46 · 24 comments & 963 views
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#1 Posted by Cyranthus on 27 Jun 2004 - 23:04
- ouch for microsoft! hehe
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#1.2 Posted by Cyranthus on 28 Jun 2004 - 15:46
QUOTE ...also hit Microsoft with a record fine of 497m euros (£332m) and gave it 120 days to reveal details of its Windows software codes, so rivals could design compatible products more
i dont know... maybe i misinterpreted that, but since when is a million dollar fine a good thing? that doesn't sound too good to me... sounds better for other computer companies, and software programmers, sure, but how does this help microsoft?
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#2 Posted by paulhaskew on 27 Jun 2004 - 23:54
- goes to show how stupid politician really are... lets sue a company because they give something away with their OS... um, how about Apple? sure they are not dominate, but hell they give you safari, mail, itunes, imovie, and a bunch of other stuff bundled right in there...
oh, plus the fact that we can't balance our own budget so we have to sue a corporation to make up for lost (er misplaced) $$$$ -
#2.1 Posted by code_monkey™ on 28 Jun 2004 - 00:17
- quite, three cheers for illegal monopolies
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#2.2 Posted by aeons on 28 Jun 2004 - 00:23
- Illegal monopolies, the EU is full of them. The worst is DeBeers. They are a freaking cartel and the EU just lets them lay waste to Africa. Microsoft is nothing compaired to that company. The EU is just a bunch of hypocrites.
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#2.3 Posted by code_monkey™ on 28 Jun 2004 - 00:30
QUOTE (#2.2) Illegal monopolies, the EU is full of them. The worst is DeBeers. They are a freaking cartel and the EU just lets them lay waste to Africa. Microsoft is nothing compaired to that company. The EU is just a bunch of hypocrites.
I agree with you, but atleast MS is a start. What we need are people writing their governments about companies like DeBeers.-
#2.4 Posted by Octol on 28 Jun 2004 - 02:56
QUOTE I agree with you, but atleast MS is a start.
Start with Microsoft?
How about "starting" with the global drug cartels that operate a $500 billion-a-year enterprise in addiction, misery, and death? Or the weapons merchants whose wares bring more suffering and death to millions? Or the global agribusiness interests that are destroying tens of thousands of acres of rainforest every month to support a fast-food industry whose primary purpose is to make everyone fat and stupid? Or how about the multinational petroleum/automotive cartel that's exhausting our non-renewable energy resources so that neanderthals in the US and elsewhere can go 150 miles per hour in ten-miles-to-the-gallon automobiles? Or ultimately governments in general, who by turning a blind eye (at the very least!) to all of the above activities allows them to flourish?
No, when it comes to doing nasty and stupid sh*t, I'm afraid Microsoft doesn't even make the list. You think we should "start" with Microsoft? Think again!-
#2.5 Posted by aeons on 28 Jun 2004 - 03:07
QUOTE Start with Microsoft?
How about "starting" with the global drug cartels that operate a $500 billion-a-year enterprise in addiction, misery, and death? Or the weapons merchants whose wares bring more suffering and death to millions? Or the global agribusiness interests that are destroying tens of thousands of acres of rainforest every month to support a fast-food industry whose primary purpose is to make everyone fat and stupid? Or how about the multinational petroleum/automotive cartel that's exhausting our non-renewable energy resources so that neanderthals in the US and elsewhere can go 150 miles per hour in ten-miles-to-the-gallon automobiles? Or ultimately governments in general, who by turning a blind eye (at the very least!) to all of the above activities allows them to flourish?
No, when it comes to doing nasty and stupid sh*t, I'm afraid Microsoft doesn't even make the list. You think we should "start" with Microsoft? Think again!
Here here, I totally agree with you. Honestly, what does Microsoft do that really hurts people? Do they support drugs, rape or war? No, but like was said before, oil, drug and dimonds dealers, they are the root of evil in this world. Lets see the EU and even the DOJ do something about them.
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#3 Posted by Shining Arcanine on 28 Jun 2004 - 01:12
- It seems that the people in Europe's justice system are coming to their senses...
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#4 Posted by theyarecomingforyou on 28 Jun 2004 - 01:24
- This just shows that a company can get away with fines if it has good lawyers and will just keep taking it back to court until the EU gives up because it costs too much for them. Some crappy justice system we have.
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#4.1 Posted by Mean Mr Mustard on 28 Jun 2004 - 02:04
- But you're not bashing the right to appeal...are you???
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#4.2 Posted by theyarecomingforyou on 28 Jun 2004 - 03:35
- Of course not... but we're talking about the EU here. The EU is currently too large, too inefficient and unworkable - this decision is the least surprising event of the century. The appeal will drag on and Microsoft will eventually get out of the fine.
If the EU imposes a fine based upon their research then it should stick - there should be no legal loopholes and technicalities to get in the way. An appeal should take weeks, not several months or years like it currently does.
EU Principle = Good
EU Actuality = Bad
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#5 Posted by GNU-L0cke on 28 Jun 2004 - 01:36
- When companies can be so powerful that their punishment doesn't do ****, then they should have a far heavier punishment than one set forth by the law. In the US, theres a maximum monopoly fine, which barely even nicks Microsoft with it's 50+ billion dollars.
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#6 Posted by Ely on 28 Jun 2004 - 01:49
- Good for MS, every stupid company wants to sue them right and left, everyone trying to get money out of them, why? because MS CAN afford to give away good software for free?
Hopefully the whole ruling will go in favor of microsoft at the end.
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#6.1 Posted by Mean Mr Mustard on 28 Jun 2004 - 02:05
- Free??? That's a short list.
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#7 Posted by Neobond on 28 Jun 2004 - 05:30
- Isn't capatilism all about making sure you, as a company, dominate the position you are in and make customers buy from you instead of the competition?
Sometimes I really do wonder about the system we are supposed to be under.
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#8 Posted by Midnight Mick on 28 Jun 2004 - 07:45
- As always Microsoft is above the law it appears....
I hate that company!
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#8.1 Posted by STV on 28 Jun 2004 - 07:55
- thanks for sharing that wonderful comment with us. now i feel as though you have enlightened me, as well as everyone else.
anyway, instead of spending money on trying to get a millions of dollars from a $53+ billion company, they should spend time on other companies that do far worse. i have never heard of microsoft producing a product that killed someone.
STV
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#9 Posted by theh0g on 28 Jun 2004 - 08:03
- Another lawsuit Microsoft is trying to avoid. Clearly court systems in EU and US should really rethink the whole law idea once again since now you can get away with every crap as long as you have money. Idiots.
The EC stressed that the move was an "interim measure" until a court had ruled on Microsoft's request. Microsoft has also asked for a long-term suspension of EU-imposed changes to the way the firm operates. The changes ordered by the Commission include selling a version of Windows without its media player software.
Microsoft was ordered to unbundle the software within 90 days - that deadline runs out on Monday. The EC, in its March ruling, also hit Microsoft with a record fine of 497m euros (£332m) and gave it 120 days to reveal details of its Windows software codes, so rivals could design compatible products more easily.
But on Friday, the company appealed to the Court of the First Instance in Luxembourg, asking it to suspend the orders for as long as its case remains before the European Courts. That could see the penalties suspended for as long as three years.
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