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Linux companies hit play on Real's software

malebolgia   on 28 June 2004 - 15:03 · 23 comments & 894 views

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Red Hat and Novell have announced plans to include RealPlayer 10 in their operating systems. The fun isn't stopping there; they're also planning on integrating Real's DRM technology Helix. While this comes as good news for RealNetwork's, I can't say the same for Linux users.

Linux software makers Red Hat and Novell said Monday that they will begin offering RealNetworks' open-source media player with their operating system products.

The two companies will start bundling RealNetworks' existing Helix Player on Monday and plan to offer upgrades to the upcoming RealPlayer 10 for Linux application when that product is introduced later this year. They also said they would work with RealNetworks to help integrate Helix with their own software. Media player applications allow people to open and run music and video files on their computers.

The adoption of the open-source media software by Red Hat and Novell comes against the backdrop of the European Union's ruling against Microsoft, under which the software giant was ordered to separate its competing application, Windows Media Player, from its flagship Windows operating system. RealNetworks, which is suing Microsoft, played a pivotal role in the EU case, testifying that Microsoft's policy of packaging its media player with Windows constituted an unfair market advantage.

News source: C|Net News.com


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#1 PseudoRandomDragon on 28 Jun 2004 - 15:05
As long as Redhat users can choose not to install it (which I am most certain they will), they will be happy.
(2 replies) #2 TheReaperMan on 28 Jun 2004 - 15:10
but this looks like microsoft can now sue redhat/realone for bundling now hehe
#2.1 nic on 28 Jun 2004 - 15:23
microsoft has nothing to sue over unless they release their Windows Media Player for linux. And that is likely not going to happen (although I wish it would !)

Then again, if microsoft started releasing software for linux, like Office, there would be no need for a lot of buisnesses to use windows.
#2.2 chacho on 28 Jun 2004 - 16:04
QUOTE (#2.1)
Then again, if microsoft started releasing software for linux, like Office, there would be no need for a lot of buisnesses to use windows.

good point. AND good idea!
#3 mercuryx013 on 28 Jun 2004 - 15:17
Boo!
(2 replies) #4 nic on 28 Jun 2004 - 15:19
Actually, there really are no good full jukebox programs out for linux. So, I'll probably end up using this when it comes out.

(there are some good music players, but the best thing I've found to organize music w/ is rhythmbox and it is pretty buggy.)
#4.1 epple on 28 Jun 2004 - 15:45
Winamp and/or iTunes should go *nix, don't you think?
#4.2 roadwarrior on 28 Jun 2004 - 16:01
QUOTE (#4.1)
iTunes should go *nix

It already has, since OS X is UNIX based. Oh, did you mean Linux??
(1 reply) #5 RaWShadow on 28 Jun 2004 - 15:39
Maybe it will be alot better than the windows version...
#5.1 rogerroger on 28 Jun 2004 - 18:17
You would win the lottery twice before that ever happened!
(2 replies) #6 anakinsolois on 28 Jun 2004 - 15:46
Real Player does not set one byte on any system i own. ever.
#6.1 chacho on 28 Jun 2004 - 16:03
ditto. i can live without a video clip in .rm format here and there
#6.2 tapo on 28 Jun 2004 - 18:05
This isn't RealPlayer, it's Helix player. They're different (in the way that Helix supports more formats and sucks less ass).
(1 reply) #7 theLANDofSMEG on 28 Jun 2004 - 16:04
I've tried looking for Real Player source code to compile on Real's website before, but all I could find were RPMs, I wouldn't install Real Player on any platform without seeing the source first
#7.1 tapo on 28 Jun 2004 - 18:06
Once again, they're bundling Helix player, not RealPlayer. Helix is open.

Here's the download site for Helix, you can just click to download the source.

https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/downloads/
(1 reply) #8 Moe Szyslak on 28 Jun 2004 - 16:48
Media Player Classic would be good for Linux.
Real Player will just be crap on any OS.
#8.1 rezza on 28 Jun 2004 - 17:14
Media Player Classic is a great player, and I use it in windows, but it comes nowhere near to mplayer on linux in terms of functionality. Linux already has the best media player available on any platform, why does it need MPC?
#9 rogerroger on 28 Jun 2004 - 18:15
Well if you ever need another reason not to use Linux, looks like we just got one.
Stupid linux!
#10 tapo on 28 Jun 2004 - 18:17
I just found an excellent summary on slashdot for what this means. Posted by an AC.


"Actually, you are missing the point. Real is not putting their typical consumer "Real Player" on the desktop, they are integrating their Open-Source Helix platform int the base of the linux desktop. The difference is, Helix is going to be a rather nice framework for any and all media playback needs. As soon as Real GPL's it, it will be like opening up the source to windows for someone to improve upon it, or make it their own. (I know, bad analogy...but you get the point)."
(2 replies) #11 JoDaddy on 28 Jun 2004 - 18:30
Real Player? I always held Linux people up there as a bunch of computer geniuses who thought the command line kept them in touch with their inner computer; but now I'm seriously thinking twice about how smart they really are.
#11.1 tapo on 28 Jun 2004 - 19:18
ugh. helix. not real.
#11.2 YaddaMe on 28 Jun 2004 - 19:33
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ugh. helix. not real


"Don't shoot the messenger" goes right out the window on this one, as Deren starts off his comments with the following falsehood:

Red Hat and Novell have announced plans to include RealPlayer 10 in their operating systems
#12 enzo on 29 Jun 2004 - 02:16
look at Netscape's open source cousin Mozilla. There was a difference. (Mozilla was better.)

I remember running into a realplayer extension file online and trying to find an alternative to d/ling realplayer. Helix was available, but it had to be purchased. It's great that it's going to be open. Now I don't have to put trash on my computer.

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