Microsoft's effort last week to fix a vulnerability in the Internet Explorer Web browser and end the latest series of Internet attacks doesn't address another closely related and dangerous vulnerability, according to a security specialist.

Dutch security expert Jelmer Kuperus published code on the Web last week that he says can be used to break into fully patched Windows systems using a slightly modified version of an attack called Download.Ject that Microsoft patched last week. The new attack targets a hole in a different Windows component than the one addressed by Microsoft's software patch. Using a similar attack, malicious hackers could break into even patched Windows machines, Kuperus says. Microsoft confirms that the company is aware of the exploit code, but does not believe any customers have been attacked using the Shell.Application exploit, a spokesperson says.

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Quote this comment Reply to this comment #1 Posted by Hurmoth on 06 Jul 2004 - 19:05
Go Microsoft!
(4 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #2 Posted by Colonel_Angus on 06 Jul 2004 - 19:10
Let me start the flame war.

My browser owns your browser:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040319

I'm a better human being than you because my web browser is better than yours.
Quote this comment #2.1 Posted by Hurmoth on 06 Jul 2004 - 19:12
I don't know if Mozilla owns IE, but I agree that Mozilla is a better browser!
Quote this comment #2.2 Posted by mrk on 06 Jul 2004 - 19:14
FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!











fox/
Quote this comment #2.3 Posted by Hurmoth on 06 Jul 2004 - 19:43
Now that's a browser! Firefox is awesome!
Quote this comment #2.4 Posted by Hova on 06 Jul 2004 - 20:21
/me huggles Opera
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #3 Posted by carpediem on 06 Jul 2004 - 19:13
SP2 users are not affected by the these 2 vulnerabilites right? Talking about this one and the related first one.
(3 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #4 Posted by Sunny69 on 06 Jul 2004 - 19:17
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Dutch security expert Jelmer Kuperus published code on the Web


How stupid is that? Publishing the code is like tellin hackers: "hey use this, go ahead it works!"
Quote this comment #4.1 Posted by Varsity on 06 Jul 2004 - 19:18
People would write the code within minutes anyway. Releasing his code just forces MS to move faster.
Quote this comment #4.2 Posted by tmaxxtigger on 06 Jul 2004 - 19:19
I agree, I think it's more about his ego than anything else..
Quote this comment #4.3 Posted by CaKeY on 06 Jul 2004 - 19:19
Might force ms to patch it again.
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #5 Posted by doubledragonxz on 06 Jul 2004 - 19:20
LOL seems like even Microsoft is against IE.
Quote this comment #5.1 Posted by chacho on 06 Jul 2004 - 19:37
i would be too if my own product keeps fscking me in the business world...
Quote this comment #5.2 Posted by rogerroger on 07 Jul 2004 - 02:42
They are (microsoft IE) taking a beating in the business world. Everyone wants to ditch, but no one knows how to move so many users off and still make apps continue to work. I wouldn't be surprised to see MS decouple IE frm windows or even buy opera (their dev team) to replace IE. I think we'll see some interesting things regarding IE from MS in the next 365 days. (other than more patches!)

(3 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #6 Posted by Sunny69 on 06 Jul 2004 - 19:22
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Microsoft confirms that the company is aware of the exploit code, but does not believe any customers have been attacked using the Shell.Application exploit, a spokesperson says.


What's that supposed ta mean? They know but just dont give a **** or are they workin on it? Asif everyone would report an exploit to microsoft..blehh..they cant know if it happend already or not.

An why didnt that securityperson just report it to microsoft...he obviously is provocing attacks

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Quote this comment #6.1 Posted by bilbobaggins on 06 Jul 2004 - 19:37
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They know but just dont give a **** or are they workin on it?


Well, they know and confirm. Shouldn't this make all of IE/M$ users happy all over ?

M$ receipt straight: when M$ tells you you're safe, you believe.

Hell right.

Quote this comment #6.2 Posted by Crackler on 06 Jul 2004 - 19:51
He should have reported it to Microsoft, not the entire world. That way Microsoft would have somewhat of a lead in terms of working out a patch of sorts.
Quote this comment #6.3 Posted by Fowen on 07 Jul 2004 - 15:10
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Well, they know and confirm. Shouldn't this make all of IE/M$ users happy all over ?

M$ receipt straight: when M$ tells you you're safe, you believe.

Hell right.

I am safe, I am running on SP2!
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #7 Posted by nX07 on 06 Jul 2004 - 19:58
Ms Bash Fest 2K4 Version 34
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #8 Posted by Mister Lamar on 06 Jul 2004 - 20:03
oh man, poor microsoft, Poor IE, awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #9 Posted by sdkaneda on 06 Jul 2004 - 21:05
sends quite a message. there must be some way to.. say.. 'take back the web'..

ah well, bring on the spyware and the 'sploits, i say. i get paid good cash fixing people's computers. let 'em use IE.
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #10 Posted by dotnetjunkie on 06 Jul 2004 - 23:23
The problem is that you people don't know the inner-workings of IE. There only are so many exploits because it's attack surface is so large! As a professional developer, I've thouroughly analysed nearly every major browser out there (Mozilla, Netscape, Opera, and yes, Firefo, but honestly they all suck, they lack soooo many features, you can't compare them with IE, really.
It's just the same as comparing Notepad with Word. Of course notepad has less bugs than Word, it only has a fraction of the features!! So I don't think IE is doing that bad, considering it is a huuuge application platform, and not just a HTML render engine with a graphical UI!)
Quote this comment #10.1 Posted by jasondefaoite on 06 Jul 2004 - 23:37
Interesting ... so what are all these "features" in IE that other browsers are lacking? Besides the holes obviously
Quote this comment #10.2 Posted by f0x on 07 Jul 2004 - 06:09
The only feature that I have found that Firefox is missing over IE is Active-x ..... so I use IE to play runescape.... but other than that, I might as well use Firefox, because it has all the features that I need for day to day use, and it's not a security risk. since I swtiched to Firefox, the amount of spyware and adware has dropped dramatically.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #11 Posted by mleonc on 06 Jul 2004 - 23:56
IE Sucks!!!! Think about it: You patch you whole systems, BUT!!! you're still vulnerable, and Microsoft says "Humm!! , no one's been attack yet by this HOLE". WTF are they waiting for???
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #12 Posted by badall on 07 Jul 2004 - 01:33
all i want to know is why did microsoft intergreat IE so much in to the operating system?, also i have been seeing a hell of alot more port scans in the last few days
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #13 Posted by James55 on 07 Jul 2004 - 03:26
Good thing I started using mozilla lately. Lol!
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #14 Posted by HBGuy on 07 Jul 2004 - 07:04
This is not bash IEfest version 34, it's version 965,824. The constant bashing of IE/MS/Windows and their users is the reason why I do not post here except once in a very great while any more. I will use IE/MS products/Windows for as long as I *bleep*ing *censor*ed well please, thank you very much.
Quote this comment #14.1 Posted by Ized on 07 Jul 2004 - 10:02
HBGuy, I'm also a Windows user/developer and I don't take it to myself if someone touts their non-Windows OS to me. To me the "my-OS-is-better-than-your-OS" discussion is retarded and serves no purpose.

BUT! I'll backup 100% anyone who wants to bash IE. IE in it's current state (IE6 SP1) is non-standards compliant and unsecure. You can say what you want, but that's the truth. Now, the more people scream how BAD IE IS, the more likely it is that Microsoft will eventually HAVE TO do something to make it more uptodate/secure/standards compliant.

Until IE is in par with Firefox and it's features, I'll be a happy Firefox user. You can use IE and play "lottery" to see if you catch a worm from the next site you browse to


Quote this comment #14.2 Posted by Fowen on 07 Jul 2004 - 15:18
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HBGuy, I'm also a Windows user/developer and I don't take it to myself if someone touts their non-Windows OS to me. To me the "my-OS-is-better-than-your-OS" discussion is retarded and serves no purpose.

I agree this "my borwser is leeto and M$ IE SuXoRs" is stupid and childish, and I don't even comment with those posts.

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BUT! I'll backup 100% anyone who wants to bash IE. IE in it's current state (IE6 SP1) is non-standards compliant and unsecure.

Running on IE 6 SP1 is not very secure, but for the average user who is not doing bad stuff on the computer (I think you know what I mean) they should never see any worms on their PC. If they download warez, and go places they shouldn't be going to, thats when you will see that stuff.

I agree IE6 SP1 SUCKS if no settings are changed, but if the security settings are setup properly then it is just as secure as FF. SP2 will fix a lot of people's problems with IE. I have not had one piece of spyware or a worm pop up on AVG since I have been using it.

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Until IE is in par with Firefox and it's features, I'll be a happy Firefox user.


I tried FF, and yes it has a lot of features and options, but I am not going to spend all day long to configure the browser the way I want it to work, and tweak a small setting here and there. I used it for 3 days, and after the 6th hour of playing with it, I said screw it, and went back to my simple IE.

Quote this comment Reply to this comment #15 Posted by Darkness2k on 07 Jul 2004 - 11:03
Is it the one posted here: http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/bugtraq/2004-01/0002.html

Cause if so, my Antivirus picks up on that file if I even just extract it from the zip!
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #16 Posted by Randall_Lind on 07 Jul 2004 - 15:38
Microsoft since they are no longer working on IE needs to get rid of it or make a new browser.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #17 Posted by Kwisatz on 07 Jul 2004 - 23:29
LOl
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Microsoft since they are no longer working on IE needs to get rid of it or make a new browser.
ummm They have to stop AtciveX, Windows, and IE thats a fact.

It's unbeliveble that they didn't fix a 6 year bug ...

They are the top 1 in market, they have lot's of money, they hire the best "programmers", and they can't do a simple browser ?

Microsot need to follow standarts and not jump them and jump all the world around.

Firefox rocks!!!
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