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Sun pushes Java brand harder--but uphill

malebolgia   on 08 July 2004 - 14:30 · 14 comments & 1099 views

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Sun is hoping that a 30 minute TV show will help boost the recognition of Java. The name of the show is "Mobile Entertainment World", and it will be a 30 minute program that is scheduled to come out later this year. The show will be a 13-episode TV series that will air in Europe first. No plans have been announced yet if it will air in the US.

It may not rise to the popularity of "Antiques Roadshow," but Sun Microsystems is betting a new TV show will help boost recognition of its Java software.

The 30-minute program, called "Mobile Entertainment World," will be sponsored by Sun and perhaps by phone service sellers, said Ingrid Van den Hoogen, Sun's new vice president of brand experience and community marketing. It's one of several efforts the Santa Clara, Calif.-based server maker has undertaken as part of a multimillion-dollar program to make average people aware of the Java brand.

Sun has finished the pilot for the 13-episode TV series, which is geared chiefly for European audiences that are more prone to gadget envy after seeing segments on games and cutting-edge Japanese consumers, Van den Hoogen said at the recent JavaOne trade show. But Sun still has a long way to go before it gets the average Joe to know what Java's steaming coffee cup logo represents. Probably a lot of people would say they recognize the Java name, but a "really low percentage" understand what it does, said Greg Sieck, an associate partner at Profit, a San Francisco-based branding company. Getting consumers to understand the "functional benefit of a Java-enabled device--that's going to be a real tough slog," he said.

News source: C|Net News.com


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#1 STV on 08 Jul 2004 - 15:05
I remember microsoft doing something like this not to long ago, but it wasnt a "TV show", it was more like an infomercial (except that they didnt sell anything). The show was called "Microsoft Insider". It was introducing new Microsoft technologies.

STV
#2 Mister Lamar on 08 Jul 2004 - 16:57
I saw something like that about Microsoft's Digital Image Suite. I went out and bought it the next day. Infomercial-TV Show
(6 replies) #3 maiios on 08 Jul 2004 - 17:08
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Getting consumers to understand the "functional benefit of a Java-enabled device--that's going to be a real tough slog," he said.


Well... when there is no functional benifit to something that is slower and dumber than... well... something really really dumb.... i guess it will be a tough "slog"
#3.1 Soleen on 08 Jul 2004 - 17:12
maiios do you have brain?
I doubt....
#3.2 maiios on 08 Jul 2004 - 17:59
... and the 5 year olds stand up for Sun! Nice insult.
#3.3 em_te on 08 Jul 2004 - 18:36
The functional benefit being platform independence and therefore wider variety?
#3.4 slapnuts_ox on 08 Jul 2004 - 23:18
agreed
#3.5 maiios on 09 Jul 2004 - 08:04
Oh come on. It is so slow that you can always tell that you are using Java. Like I had no idea why my cell phone ran so slow until I found out that it used Java. Great... it is portable... but that is the only good thing about it. Keep it on cell phones and off computers. There are better langages to use on a PC.
#3.6 Soleen on 09 Jul 2004 - 08:35
maiios you have no idea what a computer language is do you?
Do you realize that if there was a C or C++ compiler for a JVM and if you compile
a program using that compiler it would not run any better than the same program written in Java on the same JVM.
Second, JVM has fixed a lot of bugs since the first realize and now it is already almost as fast as programs that are natively compiled for certain machines. Check out for instance how Azerus is running.
(4 replies) #4 VB Guy on 08 Jul 2004 - 18:35
Ugh... Java. It's GUI abilities are so damn slow. I hope Java 2 v1.5 (or whatever the hell it's called) improves on this.

-VB Guy
#4.1 scyphe on 08 Jul 2004 - 20:08
I wont even bother with Java 5.0 (yes, clever marketing people did it again). The only thing it has going for it is the platform independence, which isn't that special anylonger.

C#, which is a more versatile language, is available on both the Win & Linux-platform (incl. .NET framework) now that Mono v1.0 has been released (.NET development on Linu and it's even a feature in SkyOS v5 (www.skyos.org).
#4.2 slapnuts_ox on 08 Jul 2004 - 23:22
java 1.5 is suppost to really increase performance as well as fix a lot of bugs and add a few new features. I main gripe with .net is that with all the patents MS keeps making i fear they will start patenting a lot of code in .net and what is currently an open environment will become a closed environment.
#4.3 werejag on 08 Jul 2004 - 23:49
why do microsoft loyalists speak of mono when microsoft didnt invite it nor support it?

mono is not cross platform. its not even a claim one can back up.

#4.4 Zatko55 on 09 Jul 2004 - 00:06
Mono's roadmap says that System.EnterpriseServices and System.Management API's won't be implemented which nixes distributed transactions. So if desktop apps are not their primary focus and neither high end complex entreprise systems, one would have to ask, why bother?

If you want a fast java gui, turn to SWT by eclipse instead of swing. Swing is slow because its totally non-native.

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