Windows XP SP2 RTM Imminent
Posted by Tom Warren on 27 July 2004 - 10:36 · 39 comments & 3842 views
As the first week of August approaches and RTM (release to manufacturing) deadlines are close the question on every geeks lips is 'what build will final be?'

According to sources close to Microsoft, late last friday builds stood at 2173 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040723-1834). Currently builds are likely to be at 2175. We're expecting the final RTM to sign off at 2180 to RTM in the first week of August. RTW (release to web) will follow RTM by around 10 days. So everyone should be able to get their hands on SP2 final in the second week of August.

Having RTM in the build strings since build 2170 is nothing new. Windows Server 2003 had RTM in the build strings for nearly a month before it was declared final. Even still we're still expecting SP2 final on August 4th providing there are no delays (yet again).

Thanks to Shawn for the 2173 screenshot.

Screenshot: >> Click here <<
View: Keep up to date on SP2 - Neowin.net
News source: In-House

The DirectX team would like to thank each of you for your hard work and feedback during this beta program. Your efforts are greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
DirectX Team


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Quote this comment Reply to this comment #1 Posted by leebobs on 27 Jul 2004 - 10:44
Added to the SP2 Thread http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=75970
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #2 Posted by Elite_graphix on 27 Jul 2004 - 10:47
ohh cant wait...
(13 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #3 Posted by tereshchenko on 27 Jul 2004 - 10:47
Give me my SP2!
Quote this comment #3.1 Posted by tereshchenko on 27 Jul 2004 - 10:49
The bad thing in SP2 is that it still has .NET framework 1.0 and not the latest and best 1.1
Quote this comment #3.2 Posted by Jason on 27 Jul 2004 - 11:12
You need 1 and 1.1 on your system as they are not compatible with each other.
Quote this comment #3.3 Posted by Jugalator on 27 Jul 2004 - 11:32
Yes, it should really have both included, but it's probably large enough already.
Quote this comment #3.4 Posted by tereshchenko on 27 Jul 2004 - 11:33
They are compatible. 1.1 runs all 1.0 applications without any problems (and it is official).
Quote this comment #3.5 Posted by Jason on 27 Jul 2004 - 11:38
Can you show me the Microsoft documentation that says you only need 1.1 and not 1 as well, I am sure I read you need both.
Quote this comment #3.6 Posted by neufuse on 27 Jul 2004 - 12:14
I develop only in .NET 1.1 and do not have 1.0 installed on any of my systems at work. I can still run 1.0 apps with out installing the 1.0 framework on my systems perfectly fine (the systems only have .net 1.1 on them and some have .net 2.0 beta) I've never installed both frameworks at once, except when we migrated from VS.NET 2002 to 2003 (1.0 to 1.1) but the current systems only have 1.1 and never had 1.0 on them and no problems reported here running old 1.0 apps
Quote this comment #3.7 Posted by neufuse on 27 Jul 2004 - 12:16
QUOTE (#3.1)
The bad thing in SP2 is that it still has .NET framework 1.0 and not the latest and best 1.1

That is because .NET 1.1 SP1 isn't finished yet and wont be for a while, they dont want to packadge a version that isn't complete yet, or a version that is about to have some major fixes to it, so they bundle the 1.0 version because its been tested and works good so far. 1.1 still has some bugs in it even though it's been RTM for years now, SP1 of 1.1 should fix a lot of them
Quote this comment #3.8 Posted by creamhackered on 27 Jul 2004 - 12:35
It's because MCE/Tablet NEED 1.0 and don't work if 1.1 is installed.
Quote this comment #3.9 Posted by Dessimat0r on 27 Jul 2004 - 13:04
Well done to Microsoft.
Quote this comment #3.10 Posted by STV on 27 Jul 2004 - 15:06
QUOTE (#3.
It's because MCE/Tablet NEED 1.0 and don't work if 1.1 is installed.

forgive me if i am wrong, but isnt 1.1 supposed to support 1.0

STV
Quote this comment #3.11 Posted by Jason on 27 Jul 2004 - 16:08
I heard the opposite to that.
Quote this comment #3.12 Posted by tereshchenko on 27 Jul 2004 - 19:16
1.1 supports 99,99% of 1.0 applications. DIXI.
Quote this comment #3.13 Posted by Spyder on 28 Jul 2004 - 17:27
QUOTE
Can you show me the Microsoft documentation that says you only need 1.1 and not 1 as well, I am sure I read you need both.

can you provide the microsoft documentation that confirms that?
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #4 Posted by cappuchok on 27 Jul 2004 - 10:50
Will it be English-only for a time or will localized versions be available at the same time, I wonder. Previous service packs have been delayed by several months before localized versions were available. With MS recent focus on security, I hope it means they'll release all fixes for all languages at the same time.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #5 Posted by windar on 27 Jul 2004 - 11:36
what about the bundle version (reloaded?) ? when will it come out ? and to international ?
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #6 Posted by Mister Lamar on 27 Jul 2004 - 11:41
Its only a matter of weeks before this is final!!!
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #7 Posted by Hurmoth on 27 Jul 2004 - 12:31
We're almost there, we're almost there!
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #8 Posted by kainashi on 27 Jul 2004 - 12:46
let's hope there isn't anymore delays.
Quote this comment #8.1 Posted by jameseuk on 27 Jul 2004 - 13:28
delays are a good thing,it means MS can fine tune things
Quote this comment #8.2 Posted by kainashi on 27 Jul 2004 - 13:50
there's been enough already.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #9 Posted by HoochieMamma on 27 Jul 2004 - 12:59
BRING IT ON!!!
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #10 Posted by RangerLG on 27 Jul 2004 - 13:05
Time to get ready for SP3!!!
Quote this comment #10.1 Posted by jameseuk on 27 Jul 2004 - 13:28
lol
Quote this comment #10.2 Posted by T-Metal on 27 Jul 2004 - 16:20
BIG LOL, yeah! What a waste.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #11 Posted by StarSabers on 27 Jul 2004 - 13:58
Does anyone know if they've fixed ... or are going to fix ... the wireless bugs?! I was trying to connect to another wireless network with WEP the other day, and it wouldn't work, and it's hard as heck to get the thing to stop automatically connecting and let me actually configure it.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #12 Posted by Randall_Lind on 27 Jul 2004 - 14:04
I expect it the first week after all they said the 4th. Now they are going to freaking delay it to the 2nd week?

(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #13 Posted by neostyle on 27 Jul 2004 - 14:42
oh no not another prediction
Quote this comment #13.1 Posted by StarSabers on 27 Jul 2004 - 20:00
Why? It will be out by the fourth.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #14 Posted by RanCorX2 on 27 Jul 2004 - 14:49
are there gonna be any more leaks before the time? hmm
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #15 Posted by StaticX on 27 Jul 2004 - 15:41
yay!
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #16 Posted by DOGglee on 27 Jul 2004 - 16:09
cool
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #17 Posted by belto on 27 Jul 2004 - 18:12
i wonder where this build (2173) is coming from. i am a beta tester and i have not seen this at all.

robert...
Quote this comment #17.1 Posted by Ryan92 on 27 Jul 2004 - 18:53
Its more than likely one of those internal builds that are only released within Microsoft and to certain OEM/ISV as I have not heard anything about this build offically from MS.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #18 Posted by Octol on 28 Jul 2004 - 01:37
I doubt seriously that the RTM build will have any significant improvements over 2162. Those of you that can't wait ought to just install that:

Download Network Install of Build 2162 from Microsoft (266MB).
Quote this comment #18.1 Posted by skypx on 28 Jul 2004 - 17:17
Unfortunately I installed winxp with sr2 rc2 slipstreamed. Because of that I am unable to install the 2162 build. Is there a work around for this? Thanks.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #19 Posted by rseiler on 31 Jul 2004 - 06:49
Well, they're at 2179 now (at least), just in the last day.

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