Posted by Unknown on 28 July 2004 - 13:37 · 19 comments & 1461 views
Dear Windows Update v5 Beta testers:

The Windows Update (WU) v5 RTM release is coming. As we approach the end of the WU v5 preview program, the WU v5 Beta team would like to thank all of you for helping us make major improvements to the WU site and Automatic Updates (AU). We are expecting a successful rollout of WU v5 and Windows XP SP2. Without the help of the beta testing community and our MVPs that would not be possible.

During the WU v5 RTM site rollout only Windows XP (RTM, SP1, or SP2) will be supported by the WU v5 site. Anyone using Windows 2000 SP3 (or later) or Windows Server 2003 to access the WU v5 site will be redirected to the WU v4 site. We recommend that beta testers with these operating systems re-image their computers to a pre-WU v5 image to return to the state most compatible with WU v4 and AU.

News source: BetaPlace


IMPORTANT - v5 AU information

Anyone using Windows 2000 SP3 (or later) or Windows Server 2003 that has visited the WU v5 site (offered as part of the WU v5 Beta program) may not receive the latest updates through AU. If you are using either of these operating systems and v5 AU to help keep your computer up to date, please do one of the following:
  • Re-image your computer. This is strongly recommended.
  • Return to a restore point created prior to visiting the WU v5 site.
If you choose not to re-image or restore, please visit the WU v4 site often to help keep your computer up to date.

After the WU v5 RTM rollout, the WU Beta team would like to keep you engaged testing new releases. This will help ensure high quality technology updates and content. We will send out information about how you can continue participating in the ongoing testing of WU, and in the next preview program. Also, following WU v5 RTM, a final survey will be created to solicit comments and improvements for forthcoming WU Beta programs.



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(5 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #1 Posted by 98XT on 28 Jul 2004 - 13:40
Interesting to see that the newer OS; Windows 2003; will not be supported immediatly by WUv5. Oh well .. can't have it all ways.
Quote this comment #1.1 Posted by Hurmoth on 28 Jul 2004 - 13:52
Yeah that's actually kind of funny!
Quote this comment #1.2 Posted by Skyfrog on 28 Jul 2004 - 14:24
Actually XP is going to be the newer OS when SP2 is out, at least code-wise.
Quote this comment #1.3 Posted by configure on 28 Jul 2004 - 14:49
98XT, it's probably because WU5 relied on BITS 2 and WinHTTP 5.1 which weren't available in 2k3 RTM. I am pretty sure that you will be able to use WU5 on a 2k3 system once its SP1 has been released.
Quote this comment #1.4 Posted by neufuse on 28 Jul 2004 - 16:46
so what? they did that with 2000 and XP too with v3 and v4 of windowsupdate... it takes time to move everything over and since AU5 and stuff will be part of 2003 SP1 what's the rush? you'll still get all the same security fixes just a different user interface
Quote this comment #1.5 Posted by configure on 29 Jul 2004 - 04:59
Actually, AU5 is dependant on WU5 so if you install the WU5 applet, you will get AU5 too.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #2 Posted by Mister Lamar on 28 Jul 2004 - 13:50
Im using v5 now on SP2 and it seems stable.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #3 Posted by kainashi on 28 Jul 2004 - 13:55
only another week until it's released with sp2.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #4 Posted by belto on 28 Jul 2004 - 14:14
Well, this new v5 is a fresh breath in the Windowa Update Site. Now there is more control. The first weeks of August it will be RTM.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #5 Posted by gregstar05 on 28 Jul 2004 - 14:34
im a beta tester for windows update v5. i quite like the new layout of it...and ohh, has anyone seen the new auto download updates manager in XP SP2? mega cool!!!
Quote this comment #5.1 Posted by Mister Lamar on 28 Jul 2004 - 14:40
yea we can still turn off automatic updates & the security center. that lil shield @ the bottom is now gone.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #6 Posted by DrIndianaJones on 28 Jul 2004 - 14:48
I wonder if installing the RTM code over the beta code will cause any issues.
Quote this comment #6.1 Posted by configure on 28 Jul 2004 - 14:50
Very unlikely, I hope
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #7 Posted by slimy on 28 Jul 2004 - 15:38
v5 sux, u have to have all these services enable
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #8 Posted by Stebet on 28 Jul 2004 - 16:03
I'm actually starting to think (note the word.. think!) that some of the people here have the IQ of a brick! Turning off automatic updates, or disabling services to gain a fraction of a percent improvement in FPS's (or something equally silly) is just plain dumb in my opinion.

Maybe i'm just being harsh and unnecessarily picky, and i should respect people for wanting to manage their updates themselves, but without having automatic updates turned on there's ALWAYS a human factor, waiting to screw up bigtime and turning their computer into the latest zombie and contributing their pretty unfair share of worms and spam
Quote this comment #8.1 Posted by Grappa on 28 Jul 2004 - 16:57
Look! Another person who doesn't remember when Windows Updates were released that broke OS features...
Quote this comment #8.2 Posted by Andareed on 28 Jul 2004 - 17:40
In general, most virii are either transmitted via:

Port X: Some windows service has opened a port that has been exploited.
Email: Virus as attachment.
Browser Flaw: Virus takes advantage of browser flaw.

The first one can be prevented by using a good firewall (software or hardware).
The second one can be prveneted by using common sense.
The third one can be prevented by locking down your browser and/or using a less popular and less targeted browser.

In theory, almost all worms/viruses should not get through regardless of whether you use windows update. But you still should
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #9 Posted by matrixhax0r on 28 Jul 2004 - 16:36
There are a fair share of patches that don't work anyways. And automatic updates are really annoying for dial-up users. Not to mention that WU doesn't have IIS patches which is what most of the big worms exploit.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #10 Posted by cheesegoduk on 28 Jul 2004 - 16:46
I just wish they would hurry up the release of Wus (Windows update services) SUS is starting to suck real bad
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