Intel Quietly Starts to Offer 64-bit Pentium 4 Processors
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#1 Posted by kizzaaa on 04 Aug 2004 - 14:34
- Cool.
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#1.1 Posted by HellBender on 04 Aug 2004 - 21:19
- "the company would slash the pricing of its 3.40GHz and 3.60GHz chips to $278 and $417 on August 22, 2004."
OMG! That's my birthday!
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#2 Posted by Digital Punk on 04 Aug 2004 - 14:38
- Can't understand why they're holding these back from the mainstream.
Surely being 64bit ready would be a good marketing ploy for intel, and give ppl buying one now some future proofing for when 64bit XP finally hits. -
#2.1 Posted by GamblerFEXonlin on 04 Aug 2004 - 17:09
- No it isnt good for Intel because Intel didnt invent/start/push 64bit tech so they look slow. Therefore they wanto hush it down and make it insignificant.
They don't wanto look like after-runners. Every beginners-course to marketing teaches this!
Don't let Intel minimize 64bit!
http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=564
Intel still wish to minimize the publics view of any 64bit
potential
Should Intel try to subtly stop AMD in this way and fail the
gain on AMDs side would, of course, be tremendous. Thats
what makes the entire situation so interesting. Can Intel
afford to let x86-64 succeed? Is it willing to run the risk
of trying to stop it?
Embrace, Extend, Extinguish philosophy thats driven
Microsoft over the past fifteen years or more.
Email your software developer and ask them for 64bit support.
64bit performance examples:
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.as...aopteron&page=1
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showd...spx?i=1884&p=17
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=109569&cid=9302350
http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_danceram...amd64_home.html
Notice this is real 64bit software running in XP64. Notice the nvidias blobby gets "more then 27%," this is the first real 64bit 3d demo I've seen.
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#3 Posted by Gary_Player on 04 Aug 2004 - 14:45
- Well, that didnt take them long
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#4 Posted by angrybrit on 04 Aug 2004 - 14:52
- Too bad the 64-bit version of Windows still isn't out yet.
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#5 Posted by Hurmoth on 04 Aug 2004 - 14:53
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Wonder how long before Dell picks these babies up?
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#6 Posted by dark kyuubi on 04 Aug 2004 - 14:53
- yea...and it'll be awhile before 64-bit Windows XP comes out...
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#7 Posted by Trek234 on 04 Aug 2004 - 14:59
- Sounds like half-assed 64-bit implementation...
Take a look at the way AMD designed it's 64-bit chips vs it's previous Athlon XP line. Lots and lots of design improvements.
Now here Intel is offering IDENTICAL Pentium 4's... the only difference being EM64T. Disappointing. I was thinking they would have made additional improvements when they introduced 64-bit chips as AMD did... apparently not.
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#8 Posted by bucko on 04 Aug 2004 - 15:00
- Thats very cool, will be good for servers using Linux but apart from gaming I can't see any good use yet as XP 64 is just not ready and everyone need to rewrite the drivers and all for 64bit. Sure it will allow us to use more memory and higher data flow etc etc but until XP 64 is final i'm not buying it, maybe Intel can encourage M$ to push development on 64bit xp now.
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#8.1 Posted by Trek234 on 04 Aug 2004 - 15:13
- 64-bit chips are indeed ready.
And as far as not buying it... Do you use AMD? If so - your next upgrade is going to be 64-bit, as in the near future no further chips with out 64-bit support will be produced.
With intel I would expect this to be the case within 12 months from now unless they want to be stubborn with where tech is going. (kind of like 3dfx and 32-bit color...)
Considering it is apparent that both Intel and AMD are now offering backwards compatible 64-bit chips I don't see why you have compatibility complaints. Until 64-bit drivers (which most large hardware manufacturers are already developing) become fully available you can easily stick with 32-bit operating systems and drivers. And then when 64-bit software is ready you can easily transition over.
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#9 Posted by ev0| on 04 Aug 2004 - 15:19
- I don't understand why Intel hasn't integrated the memory controller into the chip package yet.
lets wait and get it from AMD , 
that way we don't have to do any R and D 
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#10 Posted by MR_Candyman on 04 Aug 2004 - 15:50
- 1: You can run 64 bit with other operating systems than windows...of course some people just wnat to keep windows, but making the arguent that people will never get the most out of their processor right now is ridiculous.
2: The reason Intel is not bragging about this chip and promoting it like crazy is that the chip WILL get bogged down when running 64 bit instrction sets. It's simply designed for 32 bit, but will run 64 bit apps (only slower than it should). This was a half-assed attempt to sell a few chips before they actually get their head together.
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#11 Posted by SoNiCfReAk on 04 Aug 2004 - 16:01
- I want 64bit Dothans!!! Imagine a 2.5Ghz or higher 64Bit Dothan in a SFF desktop!
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#12 Posted by sumeet on 04 Aug 2004 - 16:18
- im in!!
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#13 Posted by xStainDx on 04 Aug 2004 - 16:28
- HOLD ON!!!!
Make sure you chck the sPEC ID to get E0!!
Description of Change to the Customer:
Desktop Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor on the 90nm Process Technology will undergo the following
changes for the D-0 to the E-0 core processor stepping change:
• The conversion to E-0 Step will incorporate power optimizations to enable speed enhancements
o Includes Execute Disable Bit support and additional power management features
(LGA775 only)
o The CPU ID will change from 0xF34h to 0xF41h
o Updated BIOS required
o E-0 is pin compatible with D-0
o Data Sheet available July 14, 2004
• New S-Specs for affected product line items
• Customer samples will be provided. Customer qualification required
Desktop Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor – LGA775 with EM64T
Pre-Conversion Production Units Post-Conversion Qualification Samples Post-Conversion Production Units Product Code Frequency
S-Spec MM # QDF # MM # S-Spec MM #
JM80547PG1041M 3.60 GHz 800 FSB SL7L9 861910 Q76Y 862599 SL7NZ 862880
JM80547PG0961M 3.40 GHz 800 FSB SL7L8 861916 Q88X 862551 SL7PZ 862876
JM80547PG0881M 3.20 GHz 800 FSB SL7LA 861909 Q99X 862557 SL7PX 862866
SL7NZ, SL7PZ and SL7PX ARE THE FINAL POST CONVERSION CPU's. DO NOT GET ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A PRE-QUALIFICATION SAMPLE.
Forecasted Key Milestones:
Date of Samples Availability: July 06, 2004 – July 30, 2004
Date of Qualification Data Availability: September 17, 2004
Date Customer Must be Ready to Receive Post-Conversion Material: October 01, 2004
Date of First Availability of Post-Conversion Material: October 01, 2004
I Will NOT Buy any of these until After at least October 1st.
Source: Produce Change Notifacation, Pentium 4 D0 - E0 Conversion
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#14 Posted by Help on 04 Aug 2004 - 16:50
- Do these p4s (EM64T) have intergrated memory controller? or a high speed pipeline called HyperTransport, I don't think so... just wait for the benchmarks and we will see who's the winner here...
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#15 Posted by dL on 04 Aug 2004 - 19:36
- So does that mean the new Intel 64bit > AMD64 ?
dL
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#16 Posted by paulhaskew on 04 Aug 2004 - 20:21
- bah, they are not even compat with the AMD 64bit specs that came out first...
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#16.2 Posted by Trek234 on 05 Aug 2004 - 04:42
- He is talking about the older Intel 64-bit offerings... They were not compatible with AMD 64-bit instructions. I'd imagine these would be though...
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#17 Posted by jpcahn on 05 Aug 2004 - 12:20
- Intel is pulling the same crap they always do. They add features in one at a time when we all know they could sell a chip tommorow that has an integrated memory controler on it. They are doing the same thing as hyperthreading. Hyperthreading was built into the P4 since day one but they waited to enable it so they could claim a "NEW" and faster P4. I give AMD credit for releasing the fastest processor they can muster and not purposely holding back tech so they can have something to fall back on if Moores law hits a brick wall.
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#17.1 Posted by Trajik 2600 on 05 Aug 2004 - 13:28
- *round of applause*
Intel Gets 64-bit Desktop Parts
As expected, the new 64-bit capable product line contains Pentium 4 at 3.20GHz, 3.40GHz and 3.60GHz priced at $278, $417 and $637 respectively. The costs of the Pentium 4 chips with Extended Memory 64 Technology will equals to processors with no such capability at the same core-clock. To distinguish between chips with and without EM64T, Intel names the 64-bit capable chips as 3.20F, 3.40F and 3.60F. Sources close to the company said that that the company would slash the pricing of its 3.40GHz and 3.60GHz chips to $278 and $417 on August 22, 2004.
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