FTC Settles Case Involving Windows Pop-Up Ads
Posted by malebolgia on 10 August 2004 - 16:20 · 16 comments & 1175 views
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#1 Posted by Colonel_Angus on 10 Aug 2004 - 16:34
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#1.2 Posted by underthebridge on 10 Aug 2004 - 22:19
- You ever used firefox? I have, and its the BEST thing that happened to the "internet" (i.e. http browsing). Why don't you take your derogatory comments and "GO AWAY".
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#2 Posted by Atmos42 on 10 Aug 2004 - 17:01
- Cute, but this type of ad is browser independent. It uses the built in Windows messaging service that is normally used for administrators to send out messages to client PC's. So you kind of come off looking a little ignorant there. No offense.
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#2.1 Posted by kitchenutensils on 10 Aug 2004 - 17:11
- hes got you!
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#3 Posted by Colonel_Angus on 10 Aug 2004 - 17:04
- what part of "FreeBSD i386" do you not understand?
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#3.1 Posted by WindowsNT on 10 Aug 2004 - 17:30
- what's FreeBSD got to do with this article
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#3.2 Posted by JaggedFlame on 10 Aug 2004 - 19:10
- Yeah, pretty much.
Colonel_Angus, no one gives a sh*t about your computer. I know, it sounds unbelievable, but it's true.
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#4 Posted by Qwakui on 10 Aug 2004 - 17:28
- Dude it's the Messenger service, completely different from Windows Messenger
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#5 Posted by MitchShrader on 10 Aug 2004 - 17:29
- Being as you are Not using an OS thats mainstream commercial, you don't (obviously) participate in the issues relevant to that use. OK. But why exactly is that cool? My radio doesn't pick up tv ads either. I don't see billboards on highways I don't drive down. Long as I use a abacus and a sundial, electricity bills aren't my problem. Got it? To say 'I'm not part of that' is true, but... so what? It isn't any sort of commentary that adds to a discussion.
I'm gonna bet that, as Linux OS's enter the desktop market more significantly in the next few years, advertising issues DO arise, (there's got to be some way to pay for features, advertising is a natural) .. sure it won't be identical to Windows advertising, but.. GMail text ads aren't OS dependent are they?
Sure there are reasons to not use commercial OS's, (and reasons not to eat meat, and reasons not to drive cars, and reasons not to vote for subgenius government) but SOMEHOW most folks manage to avoid decisions based on those reasons.
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#5.1 Posted by threedaysdwn on 10 Aug 2004 - 18:26
- Important note: If you are behind a firewall/router, or have the Windows Firewall or ICF turned on, or have a third-party firewall program, you will NOT receive these messages, even if the Messenger service is running.
I wish Deren would fix the post on the news page, which mistakenly refers to the "Windows Messenger" service, which is not what this is about.
This is about the "Messenger" service included on Windows NT systems, and enabled by default on Workstation/Pro versions, prior to XP SP1.
The "Messenger" service is in now way related to Windows Messenger, or MSN Messenger. But poorly written news posts like this one would lead many novice users to believe otherwise.
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#6 Posted by Andareed on 10 Aug 2004 - 18:55
- Note that messenger service is now disabled by default in Windows XP SP2
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#7 Posted by Neb Okla on 10 Aug 2004 - 21:47
- Once again, a government agency proves itself inept and unable to solve the problem - only to have the problem fixed by the private sector.
Why am I paying taxes to an FTC that "solves" such problems in such inept ways?
Deren seems to cheer them in the article - expressing how glad he is that the FTC is nosing into stuff they don't understand. I can't see why. Any time the government gets involved in regulating technology it either results in a waste of money or a terrible inconvenience for the general public (DMCA is a good example - and CAN SPAM hasn't stopped Spam from hitting MY mailbox - how about yours?!?)
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#7.1 Posted by shao on 11 Aug 2004 - 15:49
- maybe if the government could issue some common sense so people stop falling for email scams and overly dodgy email adverts the market would collapse, and that would be the end of spam...
but until then stupid ass people are going to continue buying "m0rt-gag3.5 @ l0.w r4.tt3s", and "93niz 3nl4rgmen7 pi||z", and falling for nigerian banking scams and the like. really.. stupid people really do make our internet lives hell sometimes.
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The FTC claimed that Squared Solutions practices violated the U.S. consumer protection law. According to the settlement Squared Solutions is not allowed to send pop-up ads through Windows Messenger Service, and surprisingly enough there will be no financial penalties. It wasn't just the pop-up ads that gave users headaches. No, in most cases it caused applications to freeze up, computer crashes, and caused users to lose data.
It's good to see that FTC is tackling new areas like pop-up ads, but I personally would have liked to see this company get fined. If their little business tactic caused my computer to crash, or even lost important data I'd want payback. With the way lawsuits are now a days I wouldn't be surprised if Squared Solutions did get sued. Most likely by a group of angry consumers.
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