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Eolas: Legal Battle "Back To Square One" For Round Two

WishX   on 20 August 2004 - 11:52 · 16 comments & 1392 views

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As we reported just yesterday, Eolas has lost two of three legal disputes with Microsoft over it's patent and licensing claims. Eolas now claims the fight is far from over and has mailed an "office action" to the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.

Eolas says the patent office had wrongfully withdrawn 10 of it's previous claims, including a previous finding from February. Eolas attorney Martin Lueck, of Minneapolis-based Robins, Kaplan, Miller & Ciresi LLP, said the patent office examiner had issued a new action—based on yet another piece of "prior art"—to reject the patent's claims. The prior-art piece was outside the examples offered by the W3C (World Wide Web Consortium), which brought the prior-art question to the attention of the patent office in November 2003.

"Eolas is attacking HTML itself. This goes to our heart," W3C CEO Steve Bratt said. "The patent could force Web site owners to modify their pages and server-side applications."

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(5 replies) #1 altermind on 20 Aug 2004 - 11:56
this is getting moronic...

if someone is gona try to enforce a so called patiant... they should do it right away as soon as they find out... not when it's worth billions of dollors... that's just sad

also.. I'd say this patiant is invaled on numerious grounds... well whatever.. I've said my piece
#1.1 edgrale on 20 Aug 2004 - 12:46
But the interesting thing is if Microsoft will be punished for stealing it. Remember that Microsoft knew they were stealing this stuff, it has been proven in court with e-mails.

Even if the patent is pure air, I still think Microsoft needs to be punished for 'stealing' it in the first place. Otherwise it gives the impression that it is okay to steal stuff and maybe later pay for it.

And for those of you who say that 'why should they pay, if it is pure air', you have to remember at that time when Eolas and Microsoft was talking about it, it was a new thing, a thing that would be play a key role in Internet Explorer.

ps. I think that $500 million is way too much.
#1.2 STV on 20 Aug 2004 - 12:53
when was it proven the microsoft stole? if microsoft stole, then so did the other browser makers.

STV
#1.3 edgrale on 20 Aug 2004 - 15:47
I read it somewhere, I cannot find it on google so I could be mistaken.
#1.4 macrosslover on 20 Aug 2004 - 16:25
that's the whole argument of the case, MS denies stealing anything and there are several other people in the computer industry who also deny that they stole it from eolas. most people are under the belief that it was all prior work done before eolas ever came along.
#1.5 Judge Roy Bean on 20 Aug 2004 - 21:18
edgrale;

Without having read each and every allegedly incriminating email used as evidence, I can safely tell you that Microsoft's employees are no strangers to "street vernacular". They use every-day common idioms just like you and I do. It is quite easy to see that, in a private email, one might be excited and type out "come on, this is a steal of a deal" or "we can practically steal this, it's so cheap", or other phrases to that effect.

It is a common usage today to say that a potential purchase is a "steal" when something is offered for sale at or under the price we ourselves would ask, were we the ones to be selling the item. Distorting that kind of colloquialism is what lawyers get the big bucks for. Sadly, MS has proven itme and again that they can write software (the quality of which is left for you to decide), but they can't hire competent lawyers to save their souls.... or at least, their company.

Equally sadly, a Judge might see all of this, but if the Defense lawyers don't present it, then it's not on the record. And no way is a Judge gonna act as if it is on the record - that way lies reversal on appeal.

So decrees.....


Da Judge
(1 reply) #2 CdCViRus on 20 Aug 2004 - 13:51
eolas is just greedy. they only go after MS because MS can pay, and losers like mozilla/opera cannot. and greed will bring eolas down. they aren't getting JACK from MS!
#2.1 8tImER on 20 Aug 2004 - 14:42
Heh, wonder how mozilla and opera are supposed to be losers when THEY make the better browsers after all?
#3 scottyman on 20 Aug 2004 - 14:10
I'm surprised CERN haven't sent out their attack dogs, as it was their technology which allowed software developers to create the concept of plugins in the first place.
#4 eilegz on 20 Aug 2004 - 15:22
anyhow i want to see how eolas will make ms pay that would be interesting
(2 replies) #5 AethylFilth on 20 Aug 2004 - 15:30
Mozilla is FAST
#5.1 OptiPlex on 20 Aug 2004 - 16:37
And what does Mozilla have to do with this?
#5.2 lare2 on 20 Aug 2004 - 20:30
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#6 Hova on 20 Aug 2004 - 18:58
If MS loses, we all lose.
#7 Lasker on 20 Aug 2004 - 21:24
EOLAS can kiss my *ss they just want $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
#8 Ideas Man on 21 Aug 2004 - 02:24
Yet another stupid bunch of people trying to steal money from Microsoft, they can't get it from Microsoft, so they take it from someone else. My advice for them sh*ts, GET A JOB!

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