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Windows Media 10 player final with MSN online music store?

Unknown   on 23 August 2004 - 23:25 · 58 comments & 4473 views

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Expect Microsoft to announce its long-anticipated foray into the online music business this week, raising the competitive stakes for the current market leader, Apple. Microsoft plans to quietly launch the MSN online music store with the new version of its Windows Media 10 player.

Early-release versions of the player look like knock-offs of Apple's iTunes Music Store, complete with brushed nickel finish. But hey, why mess with success? A button in the upper right corner of the player will take consumers to the download store. Microsoft has told entertainment executives that it expects to introduce as many as 130 million people to its music download store as computer users are prompted to update their media player software. And that's not counting the 300 million people who drop by the MSN site.

The software giant also touts the music store's compatibility with nearly 60 digital music players. Not included in the list is Apple's popular iPod. However, reports that Microsoft had scored a Beatles exclusive for the music store are, in the words of the song, ``Nowhere Man.''

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News source: Siliconvalley.com


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(1 reply) #1 TGD on 23 Aug 2004 - 23:33
I take it this will be US only for a few months?
#1.1 dp123 on 24 Aug 2004 - 00:02
Actually, it's expected to be international... Don't know if it'll be localized to different contries, markets, or if it'll just be a translation.
(4 replies) #2 DrIndianaJones on 23 Aug 2004 - 23:34
Seems interesting. I wonder if WM will play iTunes music.
#2.1 cal2002 on 24 Aug 2004 - 00:25
why would it?
#2.2 DrIndianaJones on 24 Aug 2004 - 00:31
In order to try to get iTunes users to switch back to WM.
#2.3 incubusdaemon on 24 Aug 2004 - 01:02
that requires reverse engineering fairplay. Look at Real- do you think MS wants the same debacle?
#2.4 lare2 on 24 Aug 2004 - 01:16
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do you think MS wants the same debacle?

No. they don't need more, they have enough
(3 replies) #3 mcb on 23 Aug 2004 - 23:35
any noted changes to the player other than the music store and other minor assorted cosmetic changes?
(and of course, the incremental version number change, which will now match Real)

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#3.1 tiagosilva29 on 23 Aug 2004 - 23:59
Apparently, none...

Everybody is getting all "OMFG, TEH WMP 10 "...

#3.2 Corpse19 on 24 Aug 2004 - 00:05
#3.3 tomaras on 24 Aug 2004 - 00:40
WMP10 has lot's of new features and enhancements. It's really a big step forward in many ways. Look at the pdf link of features in the 1.2 reply to your question. Your snide "matching Real's version number" comment is totally lame and out of place.
(2 replies) #4 pogz on 24 Aug 2004 - 00:00
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Early-release versions of the player look like knock-offs of Apple's iTunes Music Store, complete with brushed nickel finish.


Ooooookay.
#4.1 feverish- on 24 Aug 2004 - 00:02
Yes, apparently Apple have patented the over-usage of metallic finish in applications.
#4.2 antareus on 24 Aug 2004 - 02:53
I hate the brushed metal look with a passion. Most textures grow old to my eye pretty quickly, and brushed metal is no excception.
(2 replies) #5 SimplyPotatoes on 24 Aug 2004 - 00:18
i love nowhere man on yellow submarine, he reminds me of dazzla.
#5.1 Tem on 24 Aug 2004 - 00:25
and this has to do with this somehow?????
#5.2 SimplyPotatoes on 24 Aug 2004 - 01:02
do i have to breast feed you information, ok suckle my nipple!!!! hERE IT COMES!!!! ?!?!?
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Beatles exclusive for the music store are, in the words of the song, ``Nowhere Man.''
#6 Mister Lamar on 24 Aug 2004 - 00:26
and they said the second quarter of 2005
(2 replies) #7 Skid on 24 Aug 2004 - 00:29
MP10 Beta is out isnt it u can get it on the ms site
#7.1 dp123 on 24 Aug 2004 - 01:10
And it's a buggy piece of crap, and the store isn't available.
#7.2 nikvasilev on 24 Aug 2004 - 05:49
you are a buggy peace of crap

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#8 kainashi on 24 Aug 2004 - 01:03
awesome news.
(1 reply) #9 lare2 on 24 Aug 2004 - 01:23
I prefer the simple version of Windows Media Pleayer. The "MPlayer2.exe" inside the "Windows Media Player" folder
#9.1 plasticparadox on 25 Aug 2004 - 04:07
I wonder why MS keeps that .exe around.. must be for some compatibility issue or something.
(2 replies) #10 lare2 on 24 Aug 2004 - 01:23
Double Post
#10.1 yakumo on 24 Aug 2004 - 02:39
Media Player Classic owns the lot of them.
#10.2 Jugalator on 24 Aug 2004 - 10:14
^--- agreed
#11 finalcoolman on 24 Aug 2004 - 02:40
So, WMP10 final is coming out this week? I though wew were looking at around the new year.
#12 nX07 on 24 Aug 2004 - 02:57
I think this would be a great idea, I like it. Hopefully it will be available to Canada becuase iTunes is a hassle to get it into Canada...
#13 Xtreme $niper on 24 Aug 2004 - 03:08
I have WMP10 beta and its actually very stable and I use it whenever I feel like not using iTunes to listen to my music.
(1 reply) #14 n3urotic on 24 Aug 2004 - 03:16
I wish they'll have built-in TV tuner support.
#14.1 divertom15 on 24 Aug 2004 - 03:57
thats what mce is for
#15 Mgz on 24 Aug 2004 - 03:40
I dun need those stinkin' WMP 10. SHOW ME THE WMEncoder 10, M$, even beta is OK
#16 paganinio on 24 Aug 2004 - 04:12
Windows Media should be combined with MSN Entertainment
I have favourite radio stations on Windows Media but I have different stations on MSN, it's not good
I hope Windows Media requires .NET passport.
#17 Trade Wind on 24 Aug 2004 - 04:17
The confusion on dates stems from people taking comments talking about timelines within the *fiscal year*, and thinking they meant *calendar year*. Microsoft's 2005 fiscal year started on July 1st. This is the same confusion besetting a lot of news sites when it comes to MSN Messenger. Do people really think MSN won't have a major update for Messenger for a full two years?
#18 imtoomuch on 24 Aug 2004 - 04:40
Any screenshots of this early Apple "knock-off"? I just can't see MS using brushed graphics.
#19 Skid on 24 Aug 2004 - 04:48
(2 replies) #20 Galley on 24 Aug 2004 - 05:44
I'll make the switch to WMP10 if Microsoft agrees to pay my rent and car payment each month for the next five years. C'mon, surely they can afford $750/month, can't they?
#20.1 amdme3200 on 24 Aug 2004 - 08:41
You must have a ****y house and car if it comes up to $750 lol My T1 is more then that.
#20.2 Galley on 24 Aug 2004 - 17:11
Yeah, my apartment is tiny (550 sq. fat.), but it's in a good location, and I drive a 2000 Dodge Stratus with full power, leather, V-6 and the Auto-Stick.
(1 reply) #21 nikvasilev on 24 Aug 2004 - 05:53
I want WMP10 to be able to play .rm files so I don't have to deal with RealPlayer anymore. I hate RealPlayer and Real Networks.
But I know that WMP10 won't play .rm files or at least the technical beta doesn't.
#21.1 Jugalator on 24 Aug 2004 - 10:15
I guess MS don't want to pay license fees to Real.
#22 foxst on 24 Aug 2004 - 06:32
Has anyone downloaded a Codec Pac lately? I know that you can download both the quicktime and the realplayer codecs! I am able to play divx movies and xvid movies (these are specific encoding types) for .avi files in Windows Media player 10. There are lots of nice sites that detail this work. I currently am using the ACE Mega codec pac. It doesn't include QT or RM codecs, but i belive you can download them seperatly. Try looking at MajorGeeks.com.

As far as MS Bietching Goes. What they heck are you doing on a site called NeoWin if you are bietching about Microsoft. For all of thier OS and applications faults they have connived stolen pushed bullied and dragged computing to your home.

Please don't fool yourself into believing that computing is where it is at today than for any other reason than Bill Gates lied to IBM and told them he had an operating system for thier hardware.

Yes Unix is the foundation for many of the technologies, and LINUX ROCKS, but we wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for commodity computing.

We don't like Walmart. We don't like Costco, but darn if there aren't alot of people going to those places. ARGGH!
#23 normal_blue on 24 Aug 2004 - 08:16
I thinlk up to now there not so much info about what will be included in upcoming wmp10. To play video as i have seen always come with it's advertises. More with international, i think it is always restriction-MusicMatch Jukebox only for Us an i.e. So, i do not expected so much it will come international except some pre-paid card for msn service (avialable in my Thailand) but still not sure about the copyrigth of the video. And thwe question is what video they will offer?
#24 co0kie on 24 Aug 2004 - 08:17
Does anyone knows if mdeia player 10 will support subtitles in an advanced engine for loading etc etc including .idx files and the whoel package?
#25 normal_blue on 24 Aug 2004 - 08:17
I thinlk up to now there not so much info about what will be included in upcoming wmp10. To play video as i have seen always come with it's advertises. More with international, i think it is always restriction-MusicMatch Jukebox only for Us an i.e. So, i do not expected so much it will come international except some pre-paid card for msn service (avialable in my Thailand) but still not sure about the copyrigth of the video. And thwe question is what video they will offer?
#26 normal_blue on 24 Aug 2004 - 08:17
I thinlk up to now there not so much info about what will be included in upcoming wmp10. To play video as i have seen always come with it's advertises. More with international, i think it is always restriction-MusicMatch Jukebox only for Us an i.e. So, i do not expected so much it will come international except some pre-paid card for msn service (avialable in my Thailand) but still not sure about the copyrigth of the video. And thwe question is what video they will offer?
#27 co0kie on 24 Aug 2004 - 08:29
Im pretty sure they will target the US first, as they always do with all their campagins and subscribptions kinda thing
(2 replies) #28 nhut on 24 Aug 2004 - 09:31
If they bring out an international music store, I'm so there. Music is crazily expensive in crappy New Zealand, and neither Apple nor Real's stores operate here.

Pity that it'll obviously use WMA though... if only Apple would unlock it on their iPods. There's still nothing that compares to the iPod sadly, from what I can see...

Like the new interface. Might persuade me to switch from iTunes.
#28.1 Aaron44126 on 24 Aug 2004 - 20:50
http://www.nomadworld.com/products/zentouch/

I've never actually used one of Creative's portable music players, but they are very nicely priced compared to the iPod and can play WMA files.
#28.2 nhut on 25 Aug 2004 - 09:29
Thanks for that, it's some food for thought. I can't find any reviews for it though... but it's promising.
(1 reply) #29 AnalogKid82 on 24 Aug 2004 - 15:45
Paul Thurrot just confirmed that WMP 10 will be available for 98. 98 SE, Win2K and XP.
#29.1 nikvasilev on 24 Aug 2004 - 18:13
You have to be crazy if you still use 98, 98se and even win2k which I know lots of people still use.
#30 insurektion on 24 Aug 2004 - 19:07
win2k is fine dude. 9x is poop though
(2 replies) #31 Randall_Lind on 24 Aug 2004 - 22:39
I don't see that it looks like itunes. Whoever think it does is on something.

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#31.1 NeoReader on 25 Aug 2004 - 15:08
I was just going to write that
#31.2 tomaras on 25 Aug 2004 - 18:24
The Library view is what people who say it looks like iTunes are referring to. Just a very straight forward folder and file listing with alternating lines of white and light green to make it easier to follow across colums.
#32 johnston on 25 Aug 2004 - 20:24
cool news, they should have included this with sp2 though, now every format will make me go to wu and get wmp 10, ah well ill just try to get it into my slipstreamed cds.

anyway ive played with the beta and its a bit buggy, hopefully this is fine but it will need to be some change from wmp9 and wmp10 to get me away from itunes for my music, atm i just use wmp for my .wma and .avi files

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