AMD to demonstrate dual-core chips
Posted by NTUsEr on 31 August 2004 - 09:58 · 24 comments & 2839 views
Aiming to deflate archrival Intel, Advanced Micro Devices this week will show off its dual-core chips, which will start to trickle out toward the middle of next year.

AMD on Tuesday will show off a Hewlett-Packard ProLiant server with four dual-core Opteron chips at a facility in Austen, Texas, bringing the functional number of chips in four-processor servers to eight. "When you load Microsoft (Server 2003), it shows up as eight processors," said Marty Seyer, vice president and general manager of the microprocessor business unit at AMD. The chip "taped out"--semiconductor shop talk meaning that the design was completed--in June, and AMD recently produced the samples that will be displayed in Austin, Seyer added.

The news comes a week before the Intel Developer Forum, where Intel is expected to discuss dual-core Itanium, Xeon and Pentium chips for servers and desktops, and demonstrate at least one of these chips at the event. Right now, it is difficult to determine which company is ahead in coming out with dual-core chips, which increase performance while conserving energy. Intel has said it will come out with a dual-core Itanium toward the middle of next year and desktop parts in the second half, roughly the same schedule AMD proposes. Both companies have also had to delay projects recently, so today's deadlines are likely fluid.


News source: C|net

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(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #1 Posted by the_snitch on 31 Aug 2004 - 10:05
sweet post #1...ahhhh. when can i get one
Quote this comment #1.1 Posted by shao on 31 Aug 2004 - 10:10
"Aiming to deflate archrival Intel, Advanced Micro Devices this week will show off its dual-core chips, which will start to trickle out toward the middle of next year."

just hazarding a guess here, but i'd say middle of next year.
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #2 Posted by Legendary SSJ5 on 31 Aug 2004 - 10:11
"When you load Microsoft (Server 2003),"
microsoft server 2003?
Quote this comment #2.1 Posted by Wrath Delivery on 31 Aug 2004 - 10:52
Windows server that looks like XP. Lean, clean killing machine! I run it for a while now and it is faster than 2000!
Quote this comment #2.2 Posted by todd` on 01 Sep 2004 - 00:47
he wasnt asking what it was.. hes rolling his eyes at the wording because it should have been "Windows Server 2003"
(3 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #3 Posted by Goten on 31 Aug 2004 - 10:21
OMG Dude, i live in Texas and i have never heard of this place Austen Texas, ne one wanna show me where its at.
Quote this comment #3.1 Posted by kawai on 31 Aug 2004 - 10:25
obviously a secret underground installation by AMD under the city of austin.
Quote this comment #3.2 Posted by Goten on 31 Aug 2004 - 10:29
hahaha i wouldnt doubt it.
Quote this comment #3.3 Posted by tiagosilva29 on 31 Aug 2004 - 23:56
I'm portuguese and even I have heard of Austin!
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #4 Posted by Zeni on 31 Aug 2004 - 11:33
Hooray! A new chip that I'll never be able to afford, nor have any use for! Good work AMD!
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #5 Posted by TruckWEB on 31 Aug 2004 - 13:21
Dual Core CPU are supposed to get into desktop PC sometime in the next couple of years. The days of "it's only good for servers" are gone... (well mabe the itanium is a no-go for desktop!!!).

Dual CPU motherboard will get to use 4 CPU!!! NICE! Seti@home will be happy!

Windows XP Pro does not support more than 2 CPU....
Quote this comment #5.1 Posted by ev0| on 31 Aug 2004 - 16:04
try next year *edit* and this will FINALLY put an end to "windows 2003 server is not a workstation" because people with dual dual core oppies will have to run it !
(5 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #6 Posted by Billprozac on 31 Aug 2004 - 13:27
Hmmm, since you have to pay per processor and server 03 see's this as a dual processor, would you have to pay for eight licenses even though you only have four chips?
Quote this comment #6.1 Posted by theyarecomingforyou on 31 Aug 2004 - 14:34
You pay for the physical CPU licences, not the number of cores detected.
Quote this comment #6.2 Posted by ev0| on 31 Aug 2004 - 16:04
although this might change....
Quote this comment #6.3 Posted by TruckWEB on 31 Aug 2004 - 17:26
I don't think that Microsoft will loose any chance they have to make more money....
Quote this comment #6.4 Posted by RangerLG on 31 Aug 2004 - 21:27
Don't P4 with HT detect as two processors? You still only had to purchase one WinXP.
Quote this comment #6.5 Posted by todd` on 01 Sep 2004 - 00:49
Windows XP licensing is not the same as 2003 licensing..
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #7 Posted by xStainDx on 31 Aug 2004 - 19:00
Enterprise Server 2003 can handle up to 8 Processors (16 HT'd). You don't need to buy extra licenses.

8-way symmetric multiprocessing (SMP) support
Windows Server 2003, Enterprise Edition, supports new systems with up to 8-way SMP. The Windows Server 2003 family supports single or multiple CPUs that conform to the SMP standard. Using SMP, the operating system can run threads on any available processor, which makes it possible for applications to use multiple processors when additional processing power is required to increase the capability of a system. New features include SMP locking performance, improved registry performance, and increased Terminal Server sessions.

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Quote this comment Reply to this comment #8 Posted by AminoSC on 31 Aug 2004 - 23:51
I'll take one of these for my "Longhorn(or whatever it will be if anything)" processor.
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #9 Posted by shafi on 01 Sep 2004 - 07:54
isn't intel 3.06gh HT appears 2 cpu ? so dual core is same as HT ?
Quote this comment #9.1 Posted by ishtar on 01 Sep 2004 - 10:21
Because its Intel trickery to make uninformed consumers think that their getting something more than the other guy like MMX.
Quote this comment #9.2 Posted by slapnuts_ox on 01 Sep 2004 - 14:09
hyperthreading is when a processor is seen as 2 logical proccessors where dual core is 2 physical processors. physical processors run a lot faster than logical because where logical is maybe up to a 30% performance boost, physical processors in the dual core method are more like 80% or 90% increase.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #10 Posted by amdme3200 on 01 Sep 2004 - 09:42
I dont think it is the same the P4 is only one core I think I dont know much about the P4 chip.
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