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Laser mouse conquers new surfaces

malebolgia   on 01 September 2004 - 14:53 · 79 comments & 3325 views

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A few years ago, optical computer mice swept the world. They offered better mice features, such as being more sensitive/accurate, and being cleaning free (no ball to clean). This new generator sees the once state of the art optical "eye" might be the ones replaced. That the plan with Logitech's MX 1000 laser cordless mouse.

Logitech has announced a new type of optical mouse, which uses Agilent Technologies laser. What makes this mouse different is the way the laser light is used. Logitech's MX 1000 mouse relies on a short wavelength, which makes it 20 times more sensitive to surface details. Meaning you can use this mouse on just about any surface (glass, photos, highly polished wood, etc...). As you may or may not know, today's optical mouse’s work by detecting movement using an optical sensor, via a LED used to illuminate the surface. Because of that, today's optical mouse’s are limited to certain surfaces. The Logitech MX 1000 mouse holds charge for about 21 days, has 10 control buttons, a 4-level battery indicator, and has a U.S. price tag of $79.95.

When optical mice first arrived, it was a dramatic improvement. Because of that improvement, optical mice caught on quick with consumers. However, Logitech's MX 1000 mouse doesn't offer such a major improvement. Sure, a good number of tech junkies will snatch it up, but that's about it. In the long run, other companies like Microsoft and Apple will probably incorporate a similar technique into their line of computer mice, so when you think about it either way consumers will benefit from Logitech's MX 1000 mouse.

View: Logitech's MX 1000 Laser Mouse
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(1 reply) #1 Netrack on 01 Sep 2004 - 15:59
"EXXXXCEELLNET" - Burns
#1.1 threedaysdwn on 01 Sep 2004 - 18:41
Amazing, I saw this article pop-up on Desktop Sidebar as I'm in the process of installing this mouse
(2 replies) #2 Niels on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:01
Grammar anyone?
#2.1 Fally on 01 Sep 2004 - 17:26
I am pretty sure that grammar doesn't apply in a quote. Or on the web in a cheezy comments box. Why don't you go find something better to do. Why don't I go find something better to do...
#2.2 shed2069 on 02 Sep 2004 - 00:39
Funny, I agree with both of you. *questions own motives*
#3 Ian155 on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:06
heh - nice idea - should be intresting
(3 replies) #4 Stratrix on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:09
i'm gonna hold back on this one, and wait till they release a bluetooth version. with the bluetooth version, then i wouldn't have to bring the charger everywhere right? (as long as my laptop will have bluetooth too).

weeeeeeeeeeeeee. its gonna be COOL.
#4.1 shed2069 on 02 Sep 2004 - 00:42
your battery is still going to go flat dude, don't understand how bluetooth will alleviate this situation, apart from drain the battery quicker than RF will....???

Maybe I missed your sarcasm??
#4.2 Jstphish on 02 Sep 2004 - 04:08
yeah but this mouse can last up to 21 days on a 3-4 hours of charging. Most business trips don't last that long.
#4.3 preichert on 02 Sep 2004 - 15:03
First of all, having a Bluetooth mouse combined with a laptop with built-in BT is way better than carrying RF receivers and second, it is not true that BT drains battery any faster than RF. It is just the opposite.
#5 rbet on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:10
80 smacks for a mouse! It is kinda leet, though!
(2 replies) #6 Kasteo on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:15
I don't want a wireless mouse... will wait for the wire version.
#6.1 T-Metal on 02 Sep 2004 - 04:27
It's already out, 3 months ago actually. It's called the Logitech 510 MX.
#6.2 Darkness2k on 02 Sep 2004 - 10:26
"Logitech® MX™510 Performance Optical Mouse"

The 510 is NOT a laser mouse.
(2 replies) #7 DOCa Cola on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:15
love that mouse, just got it 2 days ago
#7.1 chubby10 on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:30
Where? Do tell.
#7.2 DOCa Cola on 01 Sep 2004 - 18:11
bought it online here in germany
#8 falcon1 on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:17
So the only real improvement is the surfaces it can be used on? Who needs a mouse to roll on photos? I guess increased accuracy would be cool also, but I think I would wait for the price to drop.
(6 replies) #9 SBeaver on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:20
Yeah wait for the wired mouse. it's not like accuracy is the main issue on wireless mice. it's the lagg, always has been and perhaps always will too unless they think of some better quicker way to transfer
#9.1 briangw on 01 Sep 2004 - 20:34
what lag? I don't know what you're smoking, but I've never noticed any lag, except for my MS Bluetooth mouse after my laptop just boots up.
#9.2 D-j-M on 01 Sep 2004 - 21:17
He's being poofy. So what, a couple ms of lag.
#9.3 shed2069 on 02 Sep 2004 - 00:46
Most hardcore gamers know about this lag, and dont accept it. They use wired mice only, and for very good reason.

Try saying 'so what about lag' to a serious gamer, and you'll be laughed at.......
#9.4 T-Metal on 02 Sep 2004 - 04:28
^ Word.^
#9.5 kronik on 02 Sep 2004 - 05:18
^I agree whats more annoying a peice of wire or lag, I would say lag
#9.6 preichert on 02 Sep 2004 - 15:05
Well, I use a Logitech MX900 mouse connected to my built-in Bluetooth in a Toshiba Satellite 5200-902. I can tell you, there are no legs even for games like Unreal Tournament or other quick moving FPS...
(1 reply) #10 Jason on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:20
Cool a Microsoft Intellimouse with laser, I wonder how long until there available.
#10.1 Juguard on 02 Sep 2004 - 23:42
why wait for Microsoft?... Logitech stomps Microsoft for Keyboards/mice. Game Controlers also. .. well Imput devices, lol
(2 replies) #11 rIaHc3 on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:20
Has it been confirmed that the laser does not cause eye damage? I dont see any warning on logitech's website so i guess that that means a no.
#11.1 pctuk on 01 Sep 2004 - 17:32
I know they work on a lot of surfaces, but I don't think they were thinking of using eyeballs as mousemats!
#11.2 Skyfrog on 01 Sep 2004 - 22:26
Sounds like a valid concern. When I first got an optical mouse years ago, every single person that saw it picked it up and looked at the LED. People still do it today, especially kids. I'm guessing this new mouse has a much less powerful laser than the ones used in optical drives, because they all have a warning inside not to look at it.
(5 replies) #12 astrokat on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:20
The battery indicator to me is a BIG IMPROVEMENT. WhyTF does it not have bluetooth.
#12.1 rIaHc3 on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:22
1- Its more expensive
2- IMO theres no need to have bluetooth on a desktop for a mouse. This is more desktop orienated.
#12.2 coolchan on 01 Sep 2004 - 18:47
Bluetooth's bandwidth is too limited. Fast RF is much faster. I can't remeber the excatly numbers tho.
#12.3 mikey on 01 Sep 2004 - 19:51
RF is the speed of light, bluetooth isnt (i believe)
#12.4 briangw on 01 Sep 2004 - 20:36
bluetooth also pauses often at bootup. My BT mouse from MS was horrible at that.
#12.5 preichert on 02 Sep 2004 - 15:10
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bluetooth also pauses often at bootup. My BT mouse from MS was horrible at that.


I would dare to say that the problem is with your MS mouse, as my Logitech MX900 don't do it. I use it on the built-in Bluetooth of my laptop.

Just to mention, the BT dongle provided by Logitech with that mouse supports the usage of the mouse even on boot.

Last comment, I was a big fan of MS mouses, but with the time I saw that Logitech was way much better and switched to them. Now it is from a long time that I only use Logitech mouses.
(2 replies) #13 xStainDx on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:26
Complerely Unnecessary Mouse.
#13.1 Knight' on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:54
CUM?
#13.2 russellc on 01 Sep 2004 - 17:15
#14 ike on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:33
21 day battery life is pretty nice.
i don't know if i could part with my MX700 though
#15 Puma on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:39
Sweet! Thinking of getting one. What is the comparation between bluetooth and the RF? Logitech claimed the RF equals to USB corded mouse. ???
(1 reply) #16 ThunderRiver on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:41
Laser? How is that different from Optical?
#16.1 memodude on 01 Sep 2004 - 18:17
The term "laser mouse" is a misnomer. It is a laser-optical mouse. Regular optical mice use LEDs.

It is also dumb that they say "optical is obsolete" on the outside of the MX1000 since laser-optical mice are also optical.

I can't wait for the Bluetooth version.
(3 replies) #17 angrybrit on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:42
I used to have an optical mouse way before MS came out with theirs. It was from Honeywell. It had 3 buttons and plugged into the serial post. There was no laser beam tho.

It's sold by Key Tronic nowadays under their The Lifetime mouse series.
#17.1 KayMan2K on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:49
The old Sun workstations has laser-optical mice. The only thing is that is was based on reflection and REQUIRED a special mirrored surface. Kinda opposite of current optical technology.
#17.2 Knight' on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:55
Yup, Sun provided mouse mats that were like metalic. They were very cool
#17.3 beardly on 01 Sep 2004 - 17:25
I used to use one at work until I changed jobs. Was a cool 'mousepad'
#18 crackhbob on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:47
This uses a "laser" not an LED which the optical mice use now. Also, I don't know what you're talking about SBeaver my MX700 has 0 lag and is just as accurate as any mouse out there, Logitech comes to play.
#19 Puma on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:53
You all can check for MX 1000 review @ http://3dgpu.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=310
(4 replies) #20 ApostolicFire on 01 Sep 2004 - 16:54
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I don't want a wireless mouse... will wait for the wire version.


I have the MX700 wireless mouse and never want to have a wire version again. The only downside is recharging, but with this new mouse it has a battery indicator which is greatly needed. Having a wire attached to a mouse is too limiting for me.

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Yeah wait for the wired mouse. it's not like accuracy is the main issue on wireless mice. it's the lagg, always has been and perhaps always will too unless they think of some better quicker way to transfer


You haven't tried Logitech's latest wireless mice, have you? All I can say is "what lag?" My Logitech wireless mouse is much better than an older Microsoft wired optical mouse I used to use.

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The battery indicator to me is a BIG IMPROVEMENT. WhyTF does it not have bluetooth.


Agreed on the battery indicator! As for bluetooth the only difference is the bluetooth can work up to 30ft away... which people don't usually use mice from that distance. I'm sure they will release one later this year or next year, however.

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Complerely Unnecessary Mouse.


Why is it unnecessary? What mouse features do you have that this one doesn't? This mouse will work on more surfaces than optical mice. I have seen that even a lot of mouse pads don't work well with optical mice. laser mice will not have this disadvantage. This mouse also has side-scrolling (which I would like to have, but only Microsoft mice only offered previously and I wanted a mouse with the Logitech MX700 accuracy or better), "cruise control" which looks like the buttons are improved (a very nice feature when surfing the net), better design for the "application button" (which was worthless on the MX700 since you had to move your hand off the mouse to even reach it), improved accuracy, and the battery meter.
#20.1 russellc on 01 Sep 2004 - 17:24
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Why is it unnecessary? What mouse features do you have that this one doesn't? This mouse will work on more surfaces than optical mice. I have seen that even a lot of mouse pads don't work well with optical mice. laser mice will not have this disadvantage. This mouse also has side-scrolling (which I would like to have, but only Microsoft mice only offered previously and I wanted a mouse with the Logitech MX700 accuracy or better), "cruise control" which looks like the buttons are improved (a very nice feature when surfing the net), better design for the "application button" (which was worthless on the MX700 since you had to move your hand off the mouse to even reach it), improved accuracy, and the battery meter.


you know...not everyone needs a $80usd mouse...it might have lots of features but not everyone needs those features...you might feel 1337 or whatever with your $80 mouse but geez, lots of people just use their computers for work and just regular use. they dont need a mouse equipped with a laser and buttons they'll never use on it. lots of people wont take their mouse to try on different surfaces to see if it'll work and go "omgg!!!!11!!! it doesnt work on glass cuz its optical !!!111one1!" ..get it if you want. by saying its unnecessary is true. $80usd is alot to spend on a mouse. and the $80usd is mostly for the laser, which isn't, in truth, necessary at all (for the time being, that is)
#20.2 D-j-M on 01 Sep 2004 - 21:24
Riiiight, so, let me get this straight, just because you can't afford it, means it unnecessary?

Thats pathetic tbh.

Nice post ApostolicFire, agreed with it all.
#20.3 JaggedFlame on 01 Sep 2004 - 21:50
No, you're pathetic.

This mouse is $80 for a reason. It's not necessary. It's there if you WANT it.

If you wanna go shell out on a mouse, go right ahead. Doesn't mean it's required. Doesn't mean it's necessary.
#20.4 biscrage on 02 Sep 2004 - 09:54
Computer - Completly Uneccessary Time Wasting Maching
Neowin Comments - Completely Unneccessary Name Calling Forum
Come on guys, this whole argument is unnecessary, because none of us NEED any of the things that allow us to participate in this unneccessay conversation but that doesnt mean that we should not have it.
(BTW - if you understood this post then spell checking is also unneccessarty )
#21 James_McNab on 01 Sep 2004 - 17:21
Meh, If i won the lottery i'd buy one - but who can afford to waste that much on a mouse with slightly better tracking.
#22 hsn on 01 Sep 2004 - 17:25
It will take a while for it to get popular.

10 Buttons! Would be interesting to see what functions Logitech has implemented in those.
#23 Solarix on 01 Sep 2004 - 17:28
i want new mouse!
#24 tHeDoSe on 01 Sep 2004 - 17:40
damn, i just got the bt mx900 a few months ago...
i like that it has osx support, as i've had to use a hack to get the extra buttons to work now
#25 bartheq on 01 Sep 2004 - 17:46
I ordered this mouse today /paid less than for MX700 2 years ago which is just great/. Will probably get it tomorrow or on friday... lovin' it already though.
Wonder what I'm gonna do with my MX700 - I bet one of my friends will gladly take good care of it and love it as I do all the time (:
#26 Tekmaven on 01 Sep 2004 - 17:52
Just saw this mouse in CompUSA three days ago. It was really sweet, I almost baught it on sight. I really love how the battery meter is built in right into the side of the mouse.
#27 monofonik on 01 Sep 2004 - 18:04
I was just thinking "should something as basic as a computer mouse really become this ridiculously advanced?" but then I started thinking "wait, this is the part we use the most."
(1 reply) #28 Liquid on 01 Sep 2004 - 18:06
Im happy with my MX510, its leet.
#28.1 Magallanes on 01 Sep 2004 - 18:37
I have a mx500, it's a good mouse but need some jobs:
-remove the ballast of the mouse, it's easy to do.
-use the intellymouse this work fairly better that the "logitech-so-sux-drivers"


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, and the lithium-ion battery never needs replacing.

eh???
#29 Ranhoca on 01 Sep 2004 - 18:11
nice Mice, but i'm Left handed, this mouse is completely unusable for me...

Damn Logitech ! Why they don't make mice for both hands ?
(2 replies) #30 Briandl79 on 01 Sep 2004 - 18:16
Wow a tilt wheel, somehow that sounds awfully familiar. I hope I can blind my friends with the laser when they piss me off....
#30.1 slang123 on 01 Sep 2004 - 21:08
just what i was thinking. That would really piss my brother off
#30.2 Jstphish on 02 Sep 2004 - 04:21
It sounds familiar because it was actually a really good idea. I'm glad they added it because now I can get a better mouse than what Microsoft offers and still have the same functionality. The consumer can only win.
#31 Cosmin on 01 Sep 2004 - 18:56
Splendid , I wish it soon
#32 sullysnet on 01 Sep 2004 - 19:02
got these at work the other day but the display hasn't been put up and the new LX500 (new keyboard) looks nice also but no display yet

got me an MX510 and it is alot better then the MX310. I hope them come out with a wired gaming model
#33 GamblerFEXonlin on 01 Sep 2004 - 21:52
its nice to see they get better but how about syncing the mouse inputs to monitor refresh, as they do on Mac? Its quite pleasant.
#34 thenay on 01 Sep 2004 - 23:23
It has a nice look and all but I wouldn't pay $80 for a mouse.
#35 plati on 02 Sep 2004 - 00:19
this has got to be the biggest marketing ploy out there.
everyone is already happy with the current accuracy of mice, the only people that want more is gamers. So if they're marketing to gamers, why in the name of god is it cordless!!??

Release a corded version and Ill think about it
(1 reply) #36 ArtOf_War on 02 Sep 2004 - 01:27
Nice, time to change my generic optical mouse for somthing good
#36.1 crackhbob on 02 Sep 2004 - 02:12
Because once again I don't care if you're a gamer or not, there's no F*N lag on a mx700, and this uses the same fastrf technology.
#37 tele-fragd on 02 Sep 2004 - 08:29
Just wondering why they didn't use lasers in the first place?
#38 Gary_Player on 02 Sep 2004 - 09:24
Just another gimmick
#39 Shannon on 05 Sep 2004 - 10:17
My mouse pad does the job fine. And besides, I've never liked Logitech products because they're all so damn ugly. That mouse looks like a big retarded piece of plastic with a laser.
#40 cesardrgn on 05 Sep 2004 - 20:27
I like the way it looks...
#41 ElementalDragon on 06 Sep 2004 - 02:40
uuh.... i plan on getting this mouse hopefully in the near future if Best Buy get's it soon. Love using RF wireless products like Gyration's keyboard and mouse. my only problem with Gyration though is that it's not as sensitive as i'd like it to be. plus, it's NiMH battery in the mouse only would last like 4-5 days on a full charge i think it said. not 100% sure on that though.

P.S. Shannon, it may "look" like a big hunk of plastic with a laser, but i've never found another mouse that i liked better than my logitech MX500. i used to have a Microsoft optic mouse, but the mouse wheel kinda wore out to the point of being unresponsive after about a year or 2. and they are quite the bit more comfortable than any other mouse i've used. The reason they are so large is so they fit the contour of your hand better when it's relaxed over the mouse. if the mouse was too small, the bottom edge of your palm and wrist would be rubbing on the mouse pad or desk you use pretty much.

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