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MSN Messenger 7 - Private Beta, Next Week

Tom Warren   on 30 September 2004 - 23:33 · 70 comments & 9992 views

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According to Microsoft-watch.com and reliable sources, MSN are planning to release Messenger 7 into beta testing on BetaPlace as early as next Tuesday. We exclusively revealed the new client yesterday amongst a lot of hype and anticipation. MSN were due to encorporate some added features into MSN Messenger 7 but it seems like these are delayed until a later "wave". For those wondering, a "wave" is a release (be it .1 or major).

MSN Spaces integration: Blogging straight from MSN Messenger Window

Personal Information Management: Intergration with MSN Explorer to truely manage your contacts and build lots of information about them.

Since MSN Messenger 7 is now due to beta next week, the public preview will follow in November and an earlier final release is now expected.

The latest build is 207 and we'll keep you updated as always :)

View: Exclusive: MSN Messenger 7.0 Revealed
View: New MSN Instant-Messaging Client to Go Beta Next Week


Gamespot interview with Rooster Teeth

GameSpot: Burnie, how much have you had to change your usual MO, given that you are no longer creating video for the heck of it, but for largest game publisher in the world.

Burnie Burns: Well, going from the largest software company in the world, Microsoft, to working with the largest game company in the world is not that big a change. It’s not like we’re having any new challenges or anything like that.

GS: But the games are worlds apart; Halo and The Sims 2.

BB: Yes, the biggest thing, as far as what changes, is that The Sims 2 is a Teen-rated game, whereas Halo is a Mature-rated game. And so to keep in tune with the game itself, we’ve agree to make [the videos] Teen rated. But that fits with the humor anyway. Whenever we write stuff, we like to have it fit in with the audience that already likes the game.

GS: Are you still doing work based on the Halo universe?

BB: I want to make it clear that we’re still doing Red vs Blue. It’s not like we’re stopping. In fact, we’re about to start season three.

GS: What's it been like working on The Sims and with EA?

BB: Everything so far has been great. Everything we’ve done so far has been lots of fun. When we first started talking about [The Sims 2], they had seen Red vs Blue. EA were fans of Red vs Blue. That helped a lot. It wasn’t just like somebody told them that they should get in contact with us. They contacted us because they liked Red vs Blue. They’ve been very, very cool to us.

GS: How are you approaching the creative challenge? And what are your goals with this new project?

BB: Well, with Machinima, you have to work within this limited world. We can’t really go in and make The Sims characters fight with guns or anything like that. That’s something we can do in Halo, but in Halo you can’t put them on a couch or things like that.

When we were writing Red vs Blue over the last year and a half, we’d come up with things that were funny that we wanted to use, some concepts we wanted to make fun of, things that we wanted to parody, but that we just weren’t able to do.

Now, with the strangerhood, we can make fun of sitcoms, make fun of reality shows, poke fun at stuff that we were just not able to in Red vs Blue.

GS: Sounds good.

BB: The project is a really good fit. We actually have a lot of stuff already written out. Hopefully, as we start to work with The Sims 2 engine, we’re going to be able to use that. But the way Machinima works, you never know. The game’s not built to make movies, that’s what the creative process is…we try to milk all that out of [the limited palatte]. Some things you can do and some things you can’t, but that’s part of the fun challenge.

GS: Besides posting the movies that you make using The Sims 2 engine, are you going to be providing any other sorts of content gamers can read or watch?

BB: If there’s any inspiration, it’s going to be inspiration by example I think.

We don’t have a problem talking with people on our forums about how we do things, but we have a commitment to not to do too much stuff that’s outside of the game engine. We try to keep it so that anybody can replicate what we do in the game engine. That’s the really cool part about Machinima.

GS: In general, what do you hear from your fan base?

BB: We get a lot of email from young filmmakers who are wanting to tell a story but who don’t have the money to go out and buy even a video camera. But they may already have a PC game or an Xbox game so they can sit down and create. With The Sims 2, the cool thing is, they’ve already got all this stuff built in. You just hit a button and you can record your gameplay footage. You don’t need any kind of external video capturing equipment…anything like that.

GS: Do you end up answering lots of reader mail that poses "how-to" questions?

BB: We answer questions as they come up but we don’t really put too many tutorials out there because there’s lots of great Machinima sites like machimina.org…they talk about how Machinima works and they offer free tools and things like that.

GS: How many Strangerhood episodes are planned?

BB: Our goal is always to try to treat any series like a TV series, so we try to do 22 episodes in a season. That’s what we’re planning to do here. As far as continuing seasons and things like that, as long as the game company will put up with us then we’ll be happy to do more.

GS: Any fear of losing your core fan base?

BB: We got emails as soon as we put the strangerhood videos up; people were real positive, they were liking it. We thought perhaps the change from a first-person shooter to a more sitcom’y looking cartoon might [alienate] some people, but so far they’ve been real excited about it.

GS: Burnie, that character you call Tovar, he looks a bit like Sims creator Will Wright. Is that intentional?

BB: [laughs] I don’t know, I don’t think so! I might be a little colored by the fact that I know what Tovar’s character is really like. Trust me, if he looks like Will Wright, I don’t think he acts anything like Will Wright. And if he does act like Will Wright, I definitely want to get a job working for Will very, very soon.

GS: Thanks, Burnie.

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(2 replies) #1 f00kie on 30 Sep 2004 - 23:34
What's the point of knowing builds if we can't use it?
#1.1 bangbang023 on 01 Oct 2004 - 00:08
Who needs knowledge? I know information about cars I'll never drive. Doesn't make the information useless though.
#1.2 zine team279 on 01 Oct 2004 - 04:14
Sorry - Posted in wrong spot!
#2 kainashi on 30 Sep 2004 - 23:37
i'm sure it will leak.

thanks for the heads up btw, cream.
(1 reply) #3 Porp on 30 Sep 2004 - 23:38
Exciting.. Hopefully it will be leaked
#3.1 stezo2k on 01 Oct 2004 - 06:32
let's hope so, will be nice to try
#4 PlainLazy on 30 Sep 2004 - 23:46
Just been reading a few sources and there has been a mixed reaction if it was real, guess we know for sure now
(1 reply) #5 Kheldar on 30 Sep 2004 - 23:54
So here's a stupid question, obviously there will be leaks, but how does one get to be an offical tester?
#5.1 Opticon4Prez on 04 Oct 2004 - 16:14
You have to fill out some survey information and be invited by Microsoft for the beta. When you have been selected, they will issue you a Guest ID, which you fill in at beta.microsoft.com, and you're in
#6 poopoo on 30 Sep 2004 - 23:54
cant wait for it to leak, i have my sources to get it
#7 Dark Fusion on 30 Sep 2004 - 23:56
ok. Lets start this again.
Can someone PM me the download link? thanx bye
#8 LOGIK_3 on 01 Oct 2004 - 00:00
I want it !!
(3 replies) #9 Fonze on 01 Oct 2004 - 00:02
I was in the last MSN beta, I hope they include me in this somehow
#9.1 poopoo on 01 Oct 2004 - 00:02
what did u test?
#9.2 Fonze on 01 Oct 2004 - 00:06
The whole MSN package, MSN Explorer, MSN Messenger and anything included in the Premium package
#9.3 hunter1234 on 01 Oct 2004 - 00:10
if you filled out that form to become a permanent msn beta tester then you will get it.
(2 replies) #10 jameseuk on 01 Oct 2004 - 00:11
speaking of creamy he's a made an interesting post on mess.be's forums

http://forum.mess.be/index.php?showtopic=4...t=60&#entry4541

lol
#10.1 eckocx on 01 Oct 2004 - 00:18
Looks like an imposter! :o
#10.2 Thebuggerguy on 01 Oct 2004 - 05:15
Have you seen a 404 error on creamy's website? The webserver tells its lifestory.
http://www.creamhackered.com/404
#11 jameseuk on 01 Oct 2004 - 00:15
maybe I'll get to test this,I've beta tested xp sp2 & windows update & recently been invited to beta test WinSrv 03 SP1 and Windows x64 Tech Beta for some reason.

then again maybe i wont be invited to test msn messenger 7
(1 reply) #12 Dark Fusion on 01 Oct 2004 - 00:20
How can i become a beta tester?

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#12.1 divertom15 on 01 Oct 2004 - 01:23
kinda late to be worrying about this
(1 reply) #13 oqwarrior on 01 Oct 2004 - 00:24
I've tested 3 builds of MSN Premium software (8, 8.x & 9), so hopefully they'll consider me for this beta.
#13.1 AquaDex on 01 Oct 2004 - 02:42
as long as you chose to stay in the MSN Butterfly beta program (those who got to test MSN Music and Web Messenger), I suppose you'll be offered to test Messenger 7 Beta too
#14 Lain on 01 Oct 2004 - 01:33
yay! dances around SIKE this should be interesting but im not worry about it none. i'll wait til it happens
(1 reply) #15 EduardValencia on 01 Oct 2004 - 01:58
waiting anxiously for the beta,i know who can give it to me
#15.1 Dark Fusion on 01 Oct 2004 - 02:07
Give it to me!
(2 replies) #16 IbSta on 01 Oct 2004 - 02:04
Mommy, mommy what is that lying on the pavement?
Nothing, son.
Is it a dead bird?
No son,
Is it a piece of dog ****?
No son,
Well mommy what is it then?
It's crap MSN 7, now just ignore it and walk around it.
#16.1 rIaHc3 on 01 Oct 2004 - 15:18
nice copy and paste and quit trolling. please if you have something to say idiotic and nonhelpful keep it to your idiotic and nonhelpful self
#16.2 IbSta on 02 Oct 2004 - 08:03
dude act your age not your dick size, so just go fist yourself bleatch

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#17 Dark Fusion on 01 Oct 2004 - 02:18
lmao
#18 AquaDex on 01 Oct 2004 - 02:26
Hmmm seems vortex2050's correct on the beta date, I wonder who are those people that called him a liar and didn't believe him
(1 reply) #19 ProgramGeek on 01 Oct 2004 - 02:34
This is going to be so interesting! <<removed>>

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#19.1 amanechoir on 01 Oct 2004 - 03:06
and while you're at it, why don't you share your credit card numbers too?
#20 Azmodan on 01 Oct 2004 - 03:03
wow... Mods and Admins are having fun in a banning users for linking post to imgs.. Nice banning spree
(1 reply) #21 Synapse` on 01 Oct 2004 - 04:11
I saw the screens and I dont like the look.

Why is everyone so excited? It's just your Messenger 6.2 but with a few new panels (e.g Wink/Nudge)..

Thats just my 2 cents.
#21.1 burning_jonny on 01 Oct 2004 - 04:35
NO WAY?!

Winks? I've been waiting for them to put that into MSN...Who use 3 Degrees anyways?

Will this be a Mac feature update as well? (jks)
(1 reply) #22 Mr.xDude on 01 Oct 2004 - 05:02
i think ill be able to beta test it cos i got a beta id

xDude
#22.1 IbSta on 01 Oct 2004 - 05:07
yeh well i got your credit card number
#23 StOrM on 01 Oct 2004 - 06:31
Anyone got a guestID?
(3 replies) #24 bLiZZaRd1284 on 01 Oct 2004 - 07:30
<<removed>>

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#24.1 XP_01 on 01 Oct 2004 - 12:44
there's a msnmsgr700205b.exe file on your server, but I highly doubt MSN Messenger 7 is only 350 kb
#24.2 McGazza™ on 01 Oct 2004 - 13:44
Nah its prob the one that is really a trojan horse
#24.3 RanCorX2 on 01 Oct 2004 - 15:15
is anyone gonna finsh uploading to him? seems 2 copies have sorta been uploaded...
#25 crystalxp on 01 Oct 2004 - 08:01
very nice. i wait for the next week
#26 Mr.xDude on 01 Oct 2004 - 09:38
lol, i hav been PM'ed about this... msg to ppl, the beta is only for the beta who were choosen to beta test it and no one else.


xDude
#27 XP_01 on 01 Oct 2004 - 13:36
Can't wait for it, I always enjoy new MSN Messenger builds
#28 a_witko on 01 Oct 2004 - 14:20
PM me for a special treat of speciality ;o)
#29 shadowdawg on 01 Oct 2004 - 15:35
how do u pm someone, lol
#30 anog on 01 Oct 2004 - 16:03
Does anyone have a Friends And Family beta test code for MSN that can give to me so I can apply for the MSN Beta?
If so PM me..
Thanks...
#31 matocaster on 01 Oct 2004 - 16:52
wonder when the mac release will be
#32 [C-F] Lee on 01 Oct 2004 - 17:57
Thanks for the news.
(1 reply) #33 none on 01 Oct 2004 - 18:12
Why do they keep adding all this totally useless CRAP to the interface that comes in the way of good instant messaging, which is what I thought MSN **Instant Messanger** was all about... MSN 4 was nice and easy... Then they added banners, oversized imoticons... Alright... Atleast messaing was still good. Then MSN 6 came out, with an interface that takes half the screen...

I'm using a laptop with a 1400x1050 SXGA resolution, and I find it bloated... Most desktops only run 800 - 1024 resolutions... WHY would I want a "buddy picture" that take up a HALF of the conversation window because of it's width, and has empty unusable space under and above it? AIM doesn't do that, AIM just has a nice buddy icon snug in the corner... WHY would I want a bunch of tabs I can't remove, like "LavaLife" or "Sympatico special offers"...

Yea, add all the features you want, I'm not saying there shouldn't be tabs or games or custom backgrounds at all... I don't use them, many other people do... And fine, even make them enabled by default for those old grandmas that wouldn't find them otherwise... But WHY make it so that it can't be disabled properly, or atleast make it space-efficient and graphically appealing, so that I may not even want to turn it off...

Microsoft really needs better GUI engineers... It all started when they replaced the Whistler beta skin with that butt-ugly Windows XP (or Windows FP, for Fisher-Price) GUI... I don't get it, do all Microsoft employees run LCD screens with QUXGA resolution? desktop realestate is KEY... Take an example from OSX - minimalistic beauty... Take an example from Photoshop - no unremovable toolbars, and a full screen mode to maximize your work area... Even look at Google... The page has under 30 words and is probably the number one homepage for internet users worldwide.

Edit: And WHY don't you make the program more efficient? Why in heck would an IM program need 35MB of memory to run even with no conversation windows!!! And why is Windows Messenger not disabled from constantly running even with MSN messanger installed?? Regular users can't remove it from the registry...

If you're wondering where I got the 35MB memory, open your task manager, click to View > Select Columns, and enable Peak Memory Usage and Virtual Memory Size.. My msnmsgr.exe takes 14MB physical memory, and 22MB Virtual memory (with no conversation windows)... In addition msmsgs.exe takes up 3.5MB memory and 12MB Virtual memory in the background (without the app even running in the taskbar). This means that alltogether, without someone computer savvy fixing Microsoft's flat-out-STUPID default installation, your computer dishes out OVER 50MB of better-used-elsewhere memory when you run MSN...

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#33.1 DarKnight on 02 Oct 2004 - 00:47
You can disable emoticons from being shown.
You can choose not to see yours or the other users display image in the options, or just click the little tabs to hide it.
Tabs can be removed.
The bars in the convo windows can be removed.

And so much more. You can make it look as simple as you want.

Also I'm using an 800*600 resolution, and I don't see where it's "Taking up half the screen"
#34 johnston on 01 Oct 2004 - 19:11
yea alot of the things you said, but the tabs can be disabled from the privacy menu in msn 6, and the pics can be removed by just clicking the title of the messenger where your buddies email address is shown, roll on v7, cant wait to dl it
#35 Colin-uk on 01 Oct 2004 - 19:12
i can already blog with my msn and i dont use msn explorer...
#36 Gowcra on 01 Oct 2004 - 19:53
i feel a ban comming
#37 R-Style on 01 Oct 2004 - 20:15
Who is gonna translate the beta!!!!!!!!!11
#38 WinMacLin on 01 Oct 2004 - 21:05
I hope to be the first to leak it !
(1 reply) #39 war on 02 Oct 2004 - 21:37
Its been leaked btw.

starts with an i and ends the an a. lol
#39.1 Darkness2k on 02 Oct 2004 - 22:20
build 250 is on mess.be too :| (unless its a typo and meant to be 205)

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#40 qoa on 03 Oct 2004 - 04:17
MSN Messenger 7 code name: Bloat revealed.
#41 divadiow on 03 Oct 2004 - 05:44
QUOTE
build 250 is on mess.be too :| (unless its a typo and meant to be 205)


that should be 205
#42 R-Style on 03 Oct 2004 - 07:36
mess.be has got the latest patches!!!!!
#43 Peewee210 on 03 Oct 2004 - 10:34
Got MSN Messenger 7
#44 alishan on 03 Oct 2004 - 15:51
Got from Masta online and submitted to 9down.com
#45 alishan on 03 Oct 2004 - 15:53
better PM me
#46 coolvi on 03 Oct 2004 - 17:44
7 is looking good actually, appearance wise, or maybe because it's still fresh outta water.

Now let's just hope somebody can quickly figure out ways to get rid of the ads and useless tabs (I can't find the setting for hiding those as in 6.x, assuming they've removed that option). Maybe an updated version of MsgPlus! will do that as they're already talking about it on their forums.
#47 bluesea on 03 Oct 2004 - 21:20
btw it's funny. neowin posts the first screenshots, and others distribute it. now they can be proud of keepin it by theirselves but they r not the only ones that have it anymore
#48 PaPaYa on 04 Oct 2004 - 12:53
QUOTE
7 is looking good actually, appearance wise, or maybe because it's still fresh outta water.

Now let's just hope somebody can quickly figure out ways to get rid of the ads and useless tabs (I can't find the setting for hiding those as in 6.x, assuming they've removed that option). Maybe an updated version of MsgPlus! will do that as they're already talking about it on their forums.

Well try mess.be and download tab enabler/disabler

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