Update for Windows XP Service Pack 2 (KB885894)
Posted by Daniel Fleshbourne on 09 October 2004 - 07:26 · 52 comments & 2877 views
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#1 Posted by allfive6 on 09 Oct 2004 - 07:33
- not on windows update yet
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#2 Posted by tapo on 09 Oct 2004 - 07:50
QUOTE This update helps resolve an issue where Windows Installer running on Windows XP Service Pack 2 stops responding when you install an update.
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#2.1 Posted by Skyfrog on 09 Oct 2004 - 09:27
- I tried to install it, but Windows stopped responding.
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#2.2 Posted by SecretAgentMan on 09 Oct 2004 - 13:13
- Hehe, bummer.
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#3 Posted by AminoSC on 09 Oct 2004 - 07:51
- A system restore point for dummies and a necessary reeeeeboot. Snap!
"not on windows update yet" ....allfive6
Yep...We're the guinea pigs! YEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAW!
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#4 Posted by crazyhorse on 09 Oct 2004 - 08:10
- why is this not on update site?
makes me nervous that neowin has it before microsoft.
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#5 Posted by RanCorX2 on 09 Oct 2004 - 08:21
- who cares, just install the damn update.
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#6 Posted by greg098 on 09 Oct 2004 - 09:56
- this is like my 3rd XP update for SP2 already...not good considering it was only released about a month ago lol
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#6.1 Posted by RanCorX2 on 09 Oct 2004 - 10:34
- it means they are actually finding & fixing the problems now, and about time too.
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#6.2 Posted by cork1958 on 09 Oct 2004 - 11:59
- Hmm? Is that all there have been? Give it another month and watch them start rolling in!!
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#7 Posted by pingchp on 09 Oct 2004 - 10:08
- Can't wait for sp3 featuring 'SUPER SECURITY UPDATE'
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#7.1 Posted by advancedboy on 09 Oct 2004 - 12:15
- Oh ya, the one where it has a Icicle Firewall that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to comprimise a computer. And with a Super Memory/RAM hogger...you know, cause Windows obviously DOESN'T hog enough memory -- they need a program to kill us even more.
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#7.2 Posted by threedaysdwn on 09 Oct 2004 - 17:07
- What makes you think Windows hogs memory?
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#7.3 Posted by Axon on 09 Oct 2004 - 18:44
- ^^ So true. Ram is a dime a dozen right now. Stick with the times! As technology advances, it has larger requirements, its called progress .
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#7.4 Posted by bluej21 on 09 Oct 2004 - 21:43
- ^^ Yeah, but since installing SP2 my computer uses about 30MB more RAM and feels a bit sluggish at times because of all the "options" that are now "mandatory".
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#8 Posted by bush on 09 Oct 2004 - 10:08
- are these integrated into sp2? or are they just as a standalone components? and if it's the last, is it possible, to slipstream them into sp2?
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#8.1 Posted by Unforgiven on 09 Oct 2004 - 14:54
- They are standalone updates released after SP2.
If you want to integrate them into SP2, use the /integrate:<fullpath> command-line switch (where <fullpath> is the path to I386 folder, i.e. C:XP)
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#9 Posted by Jedimark on 09 Oct 2004 - 11:09
- Nice one Microsoft! I complain about this on the forums:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=227789
... and within a matter of hours there is a fix out
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#10 Posted by =Syntax= on 09 Oct 2004 - 13:09
- If it ain't on Windows update site, it ain't ready yet.. If it even exist's..
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#11 Posted by Ideas Man on 09 Oct 2004 - 13:17
- Remember, Microsoft doesn't release updates like this until the second Tuesday of the month on Windows Update. You can still get them from the Download Center at any time.
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#12 Posted by ThunderRiver on 09 Oct 2004 - 13:22
- Why why do we have to reboot the computer? It is Bull!
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#13 Posted by soldier1st on 09 Oct 2004 - 13:57
- bucko i don't think they will look into linux
i'm not against linux but if it' windows update then just reboot
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#14 Posted by Chrysalis on 09 Oct 2004 - 14:06
- Hotfixes Identified:
Q282784: Current on system.
KB884020: Current on system.
KB885523: Current on system.
I think only one of these is on windows update, I dont know why ms arent updating windows update at the moment.
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#15 Posted by TEMAKILAR on 09 Oct 2004 - 14:06
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#15.1 Posted by whitedragon on 09 Oct 2004 - 15:38
- Brilliant comment, thanks for clearing that up, fanboy.
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#16 Posted by Randall_Lind on 09 Oct 2004 - 21:36
- Auto update and Windows update is useless since Sp2.
Microsoft must hate users cause only way users know of patches is from tech sites. Microsoft doesn't let useers know I think they should be looked in for hacking. I think Autoupdate maybe use for hacking by MS cause they never update windows with it. Why would they tell millions of people to turn it on then never issues patches via autoupdate?
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#16.1 Posted by chacho on 10 Oct 2004 - 14:42
- what the hell are you talking about??
autoupdate DOES work, but it accesses windows update to let you know what you need. if the patch isnt on WU yet, you won't be notified via auto updates until it is.
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#16.2 Posted by shao on 11 Oct 2004 - 07:55
- if by hack you actually mean silently download security updates, and install them in an attempt at making the users' computer more stable and secure, then yes, i think you're right.
other than that you should stop watching i robot, and thinking about windows update at the same time.
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#17 Posted by ev0| on 09 Oct 2004 - 21:42
- ^^ You gotta be at least 12 to post on neowin dude. Come back next year.
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#17.1 Posted by Randall_Lind on 09 Oct 2004 - 22:14
- Why tell people to turn on autoupdate and then not use it? MS must be planning some major attack via autoupdate if you ask me.
If MS is not going to use autoupdate to update computers all I am saying is why are they telling people to turn it on? Are they planning some attack unknown to users?
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#17.2 Posted by Dessimat0r on 09 Oct 2004 - 22:45
- Stop being ridiculous. If they did do such a thing, the world Governments and law agencies would rip them to shreds.
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#17.3 Posted by Randall_Lind on 09 Oct 2004 - 23:15
- I am not being ridiculouse just saying they must be planning to use autoupdate for something other then updates.
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#17.4 Posted by MegaManXcalibur on 10 Oct 2004 - 08:31
- And maybe they have aliens at Area 51 and the government plotted the assassination of JFK. Heck while we'er at it why not say the Ilumati are actualy behind every world government on the planet!
Ok but seriously getting all conspiracy theory is just plain nuts. This patch will appear on Windows Update (and be accessable via autoupdate) Tuesday. Microsoft now releases all "non-major" patches on the second Tuesday of the month. -
#17.5 Posted by Randall_Lind on 10 Oct 2004 - 19:21
- yesterday for the heck of it I checked and found Microsoft .net framework 1.1 listed as high priority two week before that MS Office GDI+.
I thought the whole point of autoupdate was to download what MS considers HIGH PRIORITY updates. Instead it doesn't download anything.
If this is not the case MS needs to come out and explain why they want people to enable a feature that is not being used. I would really like to know why they say enable and don't use it.
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#18 Posted by ЀVÌ£ Ïñ Ðì§gû燎 on 10 Oct 2004 - 14:22
- Anyone know which file(s) does this update in the sytem?
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#18.1 Posted by djeter on 11 Oct 2004 - 03:45
- The best way to figure out which files are updated is to go into your Windows directory and look for your $NtUninstallKBxxxxxx$ directory, where xxxxxx is the KB number... In this case, you'd have a $NtUninstallKB885894$ directory. You'd open that and find a folder named spuninst, which is where the patch can be uninstalled if need be. And then you have the files that are updated. In this case, you have sysmain.sdb and acspecfc.dll.
Both acspecfc.dll and sysmain.sdb are located in the Windows/AppPatch directory. This patch updates acspecfc.dll from 5.1.2600.2180 to 5.1.2600.2523. As far as sysmain.sdb, it does not have a version number.
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#19 Posted by ЀVÌ£ Ïñ Ðì§gû燎 on 11 Oct 2004 - 10:29
- thanx alot for the info
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#20 Posted by MicroZombies on 13 Oct 2004 - 13:04
- Well I am not to sure about the above Patch (I wasn't having that problem anyway) - it did not automatically appear on "Windows Update" - but you can manually download it from Microsoft no problem. What I do know is that there was a Patch that just came out -> "KB834707" which fixed a Critical Security Flaw in IE (Yes we are talking about the SP2 Version here) - I was very impressed however that SP2 automatically Detected it & with one Click of the Mouse on my part downloaded it & installed it Automatically. It was VERY SEEMLESS - Much better than before - tell me Linux Users - is it this easy for you (and don't give me that CRAP about Linux not having any Holes in it)!!!
I will agree with some of the other folks however - XP SP2 is still a bit BLOATED - freaking "SVCHOST.EXE" should NOT take up 30 MegaBytes on startup!!! Microsoft - hopefully you are still working on this - the question is will we see it in SP3 or in the FABLED "LongHorn" i.e. "FantasyHorn"!!!!
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