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Dell Contemplates AMD Chip Offerings

lardiop   on 12 November 2004 - 16:45 · 38 comments & 2158 views

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Since its release in early 2003, AMD's Opteron server CPU has made great inroads almost everywhere... except with Dell. The CEO of Dell, Kevin Rollins, says that may very well be about to change, as the company is considering selling Opteron servers sooner rather than later.

"My guess is we're going to want to add that [AMD] product line in the future," Rollins said in an interview on Wednesday with InfoWorld editors. "They've been getting better and better. The technology is better. In some areas they're now in the lead on Intel. That is what is interesting us more than anything," he said.

This isn't the first time Dell has made noises about selling machines with AMD processors. In the past, such statements have been aimed primarily at extracting concessions from Intel, which currently supplies the CPUs for all of Dell's products. What leads many to believe that Dell isn't just blowing smoke this time is that the Opteron rules the commodity 64-bit server space, a fact not lost on Dell, which is the lone holdout among the major computer manufacturers when it comes to AMD. If Dell does begin offering AMD systems, even if they are confined to servers and high-end gaming boxes, it would be a still be major accomplishment for AMD.

News source: Arstechnica


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#1 Xion on 12 Nov 2004 - 16:57
Yeah, I believe it when they start selling them. They said this sooo many times now!!
Oh dear what will Intel say?
#2 beardly on 12 Nov 2004 - 17:02
Just do it.
#3 Chicane-UK on 12 Nov 2004 - 17:03
I hope they do finally start selling them.. AMD basically has a better product, and they've worked bloody hard in a tough market for years now to get where they are.. they deserve to get the same kind of recognition that Intel (with its bloody jingle) has had for years.
#4 noyb on 12 Nov 2004 - 17:14
Well Hell must be quite cool this time of year.
#5 bucko on 12 Nov 2004 - 17:24
AMD 64Bit Opteron and 64Bit Linux makes a great combination
#6 ripgut on 12 Nov 2004 - 17:46
AMD has my support im building an A64 rig soon for my MAYA animation
(2 replies) #7 nmeu on 12 Nov 2004 - 17:53
"Dell PCs use Intel Pentium 4 processors" ha i think that's the funniest crap!! they say it like they're better or something.... i buy AMD chips because they're cheaper because AMD doesn't advertive on television and during the superbowl and whatever like some other chip makers i can think of....

oh and some people actully still think that software that they have won't run on a computer unless it has a Intel CPU!!! funny funny FUNNY
#7.1 Coolme on 12 Nov 2004 - 18:02
About the advertising part, I think that most people don't know enough about AMD to purchase stuff from them. I mean let's to take a look at AMD's sempron processor, most people don't konw about their real performance, they only look at the PR ratings and think that the higher is the better, but when compared to the AMD Barton-core based processors, they are in fact, much slower dispite the lower PR ratings.
#7.2 SVT on 12 Nov 2004 - 19:21
"Dell PCs use Intel Pentium 4 processors"

Dell also sells PCs with Intel Celerons, Intel PXA270s, Intel Pentium Ms, Intel Xeons, Intel Itanium 2s...
(5 replies) #8 SkaterAustin on 12 Nov 2004 - 17:57


lol I got a dell amd system

jk

but still a interesting topic, they really need to offer both amd and intel they could boost there sales that way because there are people out there like me that prefer amd over intel, and amd make better gaming machines so there gaming series computers could be awesom with fx-55
#8.1 kitchenutensils on 12 Nov 2004 - 18:55
errr.... ok?
#8.2 ev0| on 12 Nov 2004 - 19:37
nothing quite says n00b like royale/energy bliss
#8.3 SkaterAustin on 12 Nov 2004 - 19:42
umm ya n00b... alright see ur callin me a noob when i test software for microsoft and really the fact is im running like windows x64 right now and stuff and I always format, so what do you call a good theme LUNA lmao, oh wait ev0 u can be a script kiddy and use a program to do it for you like skinxp there u go..


heres some advice ev0 go suck a dick, just because you see something doesn't mean there a n00b and really im probly a lot smarter than you are... basic knowledge "developer" and I can make my own hardware and know what im talking about... soo ya cool its royale/energy bliss but looks damn better than luna does.
#8.4 moeburn on 12 Nov 2004 - 21:21
wheeeee!
#8.5 VikingStorm on 12 Nov 2004 - 21:30
Not to cause some excessive commotion here... but you didn't exactly justify your point very well. If at all, it seemed to justify what ev0 was probably saying unfortunately. Of course, grammatical and rhetorical prowess doesn't always match with reality, especially when people are being careless. (But for instance, "like windows x64 right now and stuff" seems like you have no idea what you are running, and "I always format" is overrated in my opinion since it means you can't keep a computer running smoothly long enough. The best technology people I know rarely reformat. Saying you can "make your own hardware" seems to be very very suspect. Unless you mean build a system.)
(2 replies) #9 Hills420 on 12 Nov 2004 - 18:55
I think they should offer both Intel and AMD. Give people a choice.
#9.1 Mav Phoenix on 12 Nov 2004 - 20:06
Choice is overrated, just look at Apple.
#9.2 Digital Punk on 12 Nov 2004 - 23:06
Its just that Intel give Dell BIG cpu discounts NOT to use AMD.

But, as AMD is so much better these days, I think that Dell should offer AMD.

Given a choice between Intel Prescott and AMD Winchester, I would choose AMD every time.

Still, my overclocked Northwood's still going strong for the time being.
(1 reply) #10 Jimmerz28 on 12 Nov 2004 - 20:11
Dell used to offer AMD, but they couldn't get them to cool right, and they kept overheating b/c Dell didn't have correct airation, maybe they'll finally fix this problem.
#10.1 Digital Punk on 12 Nov 2004 - 23:08
That really should be a non issue with AMD's cool N quiet technology.

They run much cooler than an Intel Prescott, so if Dell can cool those then AMD should be a doddle.
(1 reply) #11 feelgood13 on 12 Nov 2004 - 20:59
why in the world would they want to offer the generic cpu in their computers? if they're going for the low end market, they have the celeron to cover that.
#11.1 Coolme on 12 Nov 2004 - 21:51
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=61&type=expert&pid=12

sempron > Celeron D

BTW, you could buy Athlon XP 2500+ barton for the same price, which is better then ANY celeron out there...
(9 replies) #12 ev0| on 12 Nov 2004 - 21:37
generic cpu ? what the hell are you talking about ? I hope you are aware that AMD CPUs are currently the fastest in the world.
#12.1 SquareSoft0 on 12 Nov 2004 - 22:29
I don't care how good AMDs are, that is a VERY ignorant statement.
#12.2 feelgood13 on 12 Nov 2004 - 22:29
care to name that particular "amd cpu"? what is amd stuck at? 2.8ghz? that's sooo 1999...
#12.3 Coolme on 12 Nov 2004 - 22:41
That's would be the AMD athlon 64 FX-55....

sure it's clockrate is low, but intel just can't beat AMD's performance, expecially at gaming...
Gaming benchmarks 1
Gaming benchmarks 2

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The Athlon 64 4000+ and FX-55 are easily the fastest x86-compatible PC processors available, and we haven't even gotten into testing 64-bit code that could widen the gap. The new Athlon 64 models are faster overall than anything Intel has to offer, and their gaming performance is particularly strong.

The tech report

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#12.4 Digital Punk on 12 Nov 2004 - 23:11
Lol @ feelgood13! When are people going to realise that its PERFOMANCE that counts, and NOT mhz!

Some people are just so taken in with the Intel megahertz marketing machine!
#12.5 ev0| on 12 Nov 2004 - 23:24
yeah, this is neowin guys....you should not be on these forums if you are this ignorant.

Feelgood : 1999 was AMD hitting 1 Ghz before Intel. There were no 2.8 Ghz CPUs. Obviously you wouldn't know because you were only 8 in 1999. I was 24. kthanksbye ;0P

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#12.6 paulhaskew on 13 Nov 2004 - 00:19
hint hint for the ding dong guy... MHz MYTH!!! I am sure you have read about it... er rather its apparent you have not...
#12.7 feelgood13 on 13 Nov 2004 - 00:43
let's not forget what AMD is REALLY famous for.. turtle-paced ghz increase and heat output enough to warm up a small PARK! if youre supporting AMD, all youre really supporting is lazy and sloppy engineering.
#12.8 ev0| on 13 Nov 2004 - 02:04
i'm sorry feelgood, but Intel has the hottest processors right now. I'm sorry if I dont' make 'proof' squaresoft, but you can rest assured that, prescott is as hot as it gets.
#12.9 Shagin099 on 13 Nov 2004 - 02:15
Sinse when has faster speed at lower clockrate meant "lazy and sloppy engineering"? Sorry but that doesnt really make sense to me.
(3 replies) #13 ev0| on 12 Nov 2004 - 23:22
hey squaresoft! How ignorant is it now HUH ?

AMD : 1st Microprocessor company to hit 1 Ghz, 1st to introduce on die memory controller, 1st to introduce DDR memory, 1st company to have 64bit extensions, 1st company to use non clock based ratings.

Intel : Followed in all of the above (except we're still waiting on on die controller)
Has higher clock rates, but still has lower performance.

Who's a generic CPU ? what's that you say ? Yeah, I thought so.

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#13.1 SquareSoft0 on 12 Nov 2004 - 23:45
I wasn't the jerk with the generic comment, you're a troll, die.
You can't blatent generalizations then wait for someone to make proof, I did NOT say you were wrong, I said your statement was IGNORANT, which still holds.
#13.2 ev0| on 13 Nov 2004 - 02:03
uh, it's not a blatant generalization; it's on anandtech, tomshardware, sharky extreme, and hardocp. if you kept up with tech news, you'd know.
no, i will not die. thanks for your concern.
and someone did make proof, enjoy. Besides, ever heard of google ?
#13.3 SquareSoft0 on 14 Nov 2004 - 01:05
You can't back up any of your claims, I did NOT say you were wrong, and I didn't even MENTION the heat of either processor. YOU MADE A GENERALIZATION WITH NO PROOF, YOU LOSE.
#14 todd` on 13 Nov 2004 - 02:10
hmm.. i think the intel vs amd wars may be hotter than the nvidia vs ati wars here
#15 tiwaris on 13 Nov 2004 - 08:47
Currently prescotts are the hottest cpu's, especially a bunch of them are good enough to keep you comfortable . I prefer taking a nap besides them and they are totally useless when it comes to performance (AMD beats it).
Welcome to intel world, it really sucks. I am not buying any intel chip, unless they provide better performance/price ratio.

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