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Hollywood Studios Sue Movie Downloaders/Swappers

WishX   on 17 November 2004 - 10:35 · 22 comments & 2524 views

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Following the lead of record companies suing small-time song-swappers, The Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) is representing several Hollywood movie studios in the first wave of lawsuits against individuals who have downloaded and/or are sharing movies over peer-to-peer networks.

When asked exactly how many suits have been filed, John Malcolm, senior vice president and director of worldwide anti-piracy operations for the MPAA, said, "It's not important. It doesn't matter if it's 10 lawsuits or 500 lawsuits. The idea here is that there is no safe harbor." Three lawsuits, obtained by The Associated Press, were filed in federal courts in Denver and St. Louis. Two lawsuits were filed in Denver against 22 defendants, while the one in St. Louis targets 18 individuals.

The lawsuits seek injunctions against the defendants. Copyright law also provides for penalties of up to $30,000 for each motion picture traded over the Internet, and up to $150,000 if such infringement is shown to be willful. Malcolm said more lawsuits would be filed in additional cities if the current legal action does not stem illegal downloading.

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#1 Quick Reply on 17 Nov 2004 - 10:37
Those fines are absolutely ridiculous, they charge as if you were operating your own cinema!
(1 reply) #2 scoobydoobie on 17 Nov 2004 - 11:47
don't be a thief and you won't have to worry about it. Simple as that
#2.1 epple on 17 Nov 2004 - 12:11
Indeed, but it's funny to see how much they want back.. It's like demanding $10'000 back from a $10 robbery. And surely the filesharers haven't caused that much of a damage?
(1 reply) #3 Gr_Terror on 17 Nov 2004 - 12:03
i can understand how they find if u share , but how can they find u download ?
#3.1 mrbester on 17 Nov 2004 - 12:09
They can't. However, in order to up your download speeds on BT you need to share, therefore you are visible.
#4 WinMacLin on 17 Nov 2004 - 12:17
How sucky. I **hope** UK turns like canada and makes P2P Legal
#5 slimshady165000 on 17 Nov 2004 - 12:28
People scared over nothing......

just take some extra precautions....like Peerguardian and whatnots. Your cheap if you don't share
#6 SecretAgentMan on 17 Nov 2004 - 12:42
This would not be good.

Senate May Ram Copyright Bill
#7 JoeyImage on 17 Nov 2004 - 13:26
Don't use Peer Guardian, use BISS's Proto Wall.
(1 reply) #8 Treefrog on 17 Nov 2004 - 14:19
This is why I will never use p2p file sharing. Usenet is where it's at, where it always has been, and where it always will be.
#8.1 Big Tex on 17 Nov 2004 - 15:58
I read somewhere that it is possible to tell what you leech from usenet - is that true?
#9 Mongrel on 17 Nov 2004 - 15:04
An organized, proactive hitman could make pretty good money off this, taking out all the executives & lawyers in charge, and charging 1/3 - 1/2 each what the defendants would end up paying in court.

...do us all a favor...
(3 replies) #10 8-n-1 on 17 Nov 2004 - 15:44
I'd bet any amount of money that when a study is done of this, they will find that (like music P2P sharers), these people wouldn't have gone to see the movie anyway, thus they are in fact not losing any money.
#10.1 YKW on 17 Nov 2004 - 19:25
I take a train from place A to place B and I don't buy a ticket because I can't afford it. If I was forced to pay I wouldn't travel by train. According to your logic I should be able to take the train without paying because I wouldn't be paying anyhow.

This whining about lawsuits is getting ridicilous. MPAA and RIAA are suing people who are infringing copyright. It is irrelevant if you would buy the product or not if you couldn't copy it. What is relevant is that you are using a product that you shouldn't be able to use without paying. Seriously people, is that rental fee (3.5 € in the local kiosk here in Finland) too much? If you think that movies produced nowadays aren't good then don't watch movies. You can live a happy life without watching a single movie.
#10.2 nX07 on 18 Nov 2004 - 03:25
Nice YKW, I agree 100%
#10.3 ryusen on 18 Nov 2004 - 20:37
The main bitching i have on this is that these lawsuits cost money. The industry must pay for the lawyers, the taxpayers must pay for the court time. There is NO way, these suits will recover the made up losses that they claim p2p is incurrign them. Movie attendence is at an all time high if you look at the record breaking numbers for movies like Spider Man 2 and Schreck 2.
So no only will the costs of these suits be passed onto me when I see, rent, or buy movies... my tax $ will also help fund these things. While i am all for them trying to shut down the real pirates (those making proffits on bootleg sales), fruitless lawsuits that are going to cost me money piss me off... and the worst part is, they are not losing any money from the file sharers (except for made up numbers that have no substantial proof).
(3 replies) #11 SniperX on 17 Nov 2004 - 16:57
I'm curious, knowing nothing about American law, what happens if, as is highly likely I suspect, the defendant doesn't have anywhere near the $150,000/$30,000 penalty to pay and most likely never will have?
#11.1 Mongrel on 17 Nov 2004 - 19:17
Electric chair. FOUR MORE YEARS, FOUR MORE YEARS!!
#11.2 SquareSoft0 on 17 Nov 2004 - 20:25
Lock'em up an' throw away the key, yup yup. An' you try runnin' we just blast ya with this here boomstick.
#11.3 ryusen on 18 Nov 2004 - 20:39
Well, if they follow the RIAA, they will send letters to the persecuted saying "YOU owe us $109,029,039, but we will let you off the hook if you pay $2,000 instead. In other words, a legalised form of extortion.
#12 Another_Paul on 18 Nov 2004 - 00:18
Beware you American P2P users!
#13 bjc4ever on 18 Nov 2004 - 03:53
does this only happen in America or in other places as well?

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