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Bush signs Internet access tax ban into law

Michael Stanclift   on 07 December 2004 - 04:35 · 84 comments & 7238 views

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Thanks to oddcrap who posted this in BPN for the heads up.

President Bush signed a bill that renews a ban on Internet access taxes on Friday amid praise from lawmakers and trade groups who said the measure would encourage more people to sign up for high-speed broadband service.

Bush said repeatedly on the campaign trail this year that a ban on access taxes is crucial to reach his goal of universal broadband access by 2007, enabling more Internet users to download video, music and other bandwidth-intensive content.

The ban on access taxes, in place since 1998, expired more than a year ago when congressional lawmakers could not agree whether to make it permanent or merely extend it for three years.

Backers at the time warned that Internet use could suffer if tax-happy states imposed new surcharges on the monthly fees that Internet providers.

No states or local governments imposed new Internet taxes during the year the ban was not in effect.

News source: Reuters


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(2 replies) #1 Chestah on 07 Dec 2004 - 04:41
good, more users = better content
#1.1 NyaR on 08 Dec 2004 - 01:24
it also equals more noobs, viruses, malware spyware and various other bad things
#1.2 lester_kun on 08 Dec 2004 - 04:15
well, in that case then let's shut the net down, don't ya think? ¬¬
Hope you will see things better next time.
(6 replies) #2 ThunderRiver on 07 Dec 2004 - 05:01
That's one of things I agree with what Bush does.

Go Texas!
#2.1 Surr3al on 07 Dec 2004 - 16:04
I hate Texas...

Kerry would have done the same. This is just political bull ****.
#2.2 MrCobra on 07 Dec 2004 - 16:33
He couldn't have done the same. He LOST!!!!
#2.3 ThunderRiver on 07 Dec 2004 - 20:06
Agreed.. Kerry lost, so shushee about what Kerry can do.

#2.1 Stay away from Texas if you hate it so much.
#2.4 DeepThought on 07 Dec 2004 - 22:09
Obviously you can't read. He said that "Kerry would have done the same", implying (of course) that if he won, he would have passed a similar policy. He gave a hypothetical situation, while you took it as a literalism (saying he "couldn't" instead of "wouldn't".
#2.5 kjordan2001 on 07 Dec 2004 - 22:59
But isn't the point that Bush did it and not that Kerry would have done the same thing? Just be glad Bush actually did it.
#2.6 PseudoRandomDragon on 08 Dec 2004 - 01:25
Good job Bush enacting this law.

Oh wait this law was already there, you just renewed it. Well... go you.
(9 replies) #3 mohennessey on 07 Dec 2004 - 05:06
that is good to hear. now only if they would lift a couple of the taxes on cell phones
#3.1 antoxicion on 07 Dec 2004 - 05:30
you read my mind.......

::cellphone fr3@k here:: and damn proud i am
#3.2 nemo on 07 Dec 2004 - 05:53
yeah i wish...... i pay like $10 in taxes
#3.3 Aeons on 07 Dec 2004 - 13:40
While I hate those taxes, some of that money helps your local schools pay thier internet connectivity bills. So feel good today in knowing that you are helping tons of students around the country.
#3.4 thornz0 on 07 Dec 2004 - 14:06
i totally agree, 1/4 of my bill every month is from taxes.
#3.5 Frank on 07 Dec 2004 - 14:38
It is not just taxes on your cell phone, but on the traditional land line also. Surcharges go nuts. Thank God for VoIP.

The death of Land Lines - http://www.2wire.com/?p=162
#3.6 Surr3al on 07 Dec 2004 - 16:06
Believe it or not, taxes are a good thing.
#3.7 MrCobra on 07 Dec 2004 - 16:35
Yes, taxes are a good thing in certain respects but not when they tax you on everything and have to pay a tax on the tax (gasoline). Anyone want to go to another tea party?
#3.8 astralwerks on 08 Dec 2004 - 06:47
what about property tax, taxing us on things we already paid taxes on.
#3.9 PseudoRandomDragon on 10 Dec 2004 - 21:16
I just love how my taxes are partly being invested to Iraq right now.
(6 replies) #4 Sn1p3t on 07 Dec 2004 - 05:31
How many of the Internets does this apply to?
#4.1 SquareSoft0 on 07 Dec 2004 - 05:34
(For those of you unaware)
http://www.goyk.com/flash.asp?path=1041
#4.2 Danrarbc641 on 07 Dec 2004 - 05:35
Internets 1 and 2, we aren't up to 3 yet :p
#4.3 Stef Nighthawk on 07 Dec 2004 - 09:10
Yep, internet 2 is the one where speed records are broken.
#4.4 obake on 07 Dec 2004 - 14:05
Internet2 is pimp. God bless ingenuity.
#4.5 SquareSoft0 on 07 Dec 2004 - 18:04
Will all yall shu'up? We all know 'sall 'bout internet 4.
#4.6 D-j-M on 09 Dec 2004 - 07:15
I4 never really got going..
#5 thenay on 07 Dec 2004 - 05:49
Yay, one good thing bush has signed!
However with the possible increase in more users, the federal agencies will have more work to sniff around peoples personal life's to seek out those so called terrorists who download mp3 files illegally
(3 replies) #6 Jstphish on 07 Dec 2004 - 05:56
Good thing to hear, however, I know that broadband users (cable at least) are getting screwed because people that work for the cable company I have (Adelphia) get their broadband for $10/month (at least that is what they told me when I went for an interview). That is a heck of a lot cheaper than what consumers pay.
#6.1 noll3095 on 07 Dec 2004 - 12:37
I think Roadrunner/TW employees get it free. Most companies give their employees discounts on their products and services as another form of compensation.
#6.2 Frank on 07 Dec 2004 - 14:45
Exactly. If a company provides a service then usually as a added perk their employee's either get a large discount, or get the service for free.

For instance, I worked at a Airline and they gave me and my immediate family free airline tickets. Does this mean the consumer should also get it for free?
#6.3 PGHammer on 07 Dec 2004 - 18:29
It's called a *benefit*, and this is typical of any service company. I used to work for Comcast, and we got everything except PPV free (and PPV was half-price). (Yes, that includes CHSI, which is where I was in the support department.)

However, *unlike* regular customers, Comcast employees can have only one digital cable box (regular customers have no limit on the number of such boxes) or one HD box (Comcast's HD boxes also pick up non-HD digital cable, so this actually makes sense). Further, they also give permission for their accounts to be used for training purposes (in my case, I used my own account as part of a minicourse I was asked to teach new employees on Comcast's billing system).

So there are both bennies and tradeoffs to working for a service company.

(1 reply) #7 em_te on 07 Dec 2004 - 06:22
Gotta love the photo.
#7.1 Eclipse™ on 07 Dec 2004 - 06:37
Hehe, that is a fairly dorky picture of him, I'll admit.

He's definitely going for a change of pace with that red tie instead of his bright blue one, though.
(1 reply) #8 Gary_Player on 07 Dec 2004 - 06:56
Good boy *pats Bush on head and gives him a peanut*
#8.1 EduardValencia on 07 Dec 2004 - 11:46
lol
(1 reply) #9 aboi on 07 Dec 2004 - 07:06
its about time he did something good. now lets wait and see if we could get more money when we file our taxes this year
#9.1 Surr3al on 07 Dec 2004 - 16:09
You won't.
#10 imtoomuch on 07 Dec 2004 - 07:54
Awesome. Maybe I'll buy more stuff online now.
#11 thexfile on 07 Dec 2004 - 08:17
That's funny I'm still paying state tax for Internet access
#12 altezza on 07 Dec 2004 - 10:57
I wish the Australian government would allow cheaper cost of bandwidth. Let Australia get out of 3rd world in internet technology and move forward.
(4 replies) #13 EduardValencia on 07 Dec 2004 - 11:45
hmmm weird,i don't trust that *******,gives me the creep
#13.1 rIaHc3 on 07 Dec 2004 - 14:57
STOP HATING and dont be jealous that your country doesnt do it....End of story
#13.2 EduardValencia on 07 Dec 2004 - 16:04
chill man,i don't hate U.S,but surely this clown
#13.3 rIaHc3 on 07 Dec 2004 - 17:24
your country doesnt do it = your president/government/ect doesnt do it

Same thing
#13.4 EduardValencia on 08 Dec 2004 - 04:32
i have a cheap internet,doesen't affect my finance,yo man chill k?,this clown will drive U.S to to plain ruin,anyway this is why u elected George W BuSh?, i support democrats ideologically.

are u from jesusland?
(2 replies) #14 Hurmoth on 07 Dec 2004 - 11:53
Go Bush Go to love living in Bush Country
#14.1 MrMunka on 07 Dec 2004 - 15:53
Damn straight!
#14.2 jagedEdge on 08 Dec 2004 - 01:28
You do? Because I really don't.
(1 reply) #15 moeburn on 07 Dec 2004 - 12:55
You greedy b*stards.
#15.1 EduardValencia on 08 Dec 2004 - 04:29
#16 Hills420 on 07 Dec 2004 - 13:22
this was a no-brainer.
(4 replies) #17 Sage_Override on 07 Dec 2004 - 14:49
Bush did this because he gets favor from the tech geeks out there. Also backing from internet companies. Smart move, but he still sucks. Next election you're out anyway, big ears. Stop trying to win American favor because it doesn't matter anymore.
#17.1 rIaHc3 on 07 Dec 2004 - 14:59
So think if hes out next time why does he do this? He could just watch TV all day but no he accually cares. So all i got to say is the same thing STOP HATING and we really dont care what you think....
#17.2 EduardValencia on 07 Dec 2004 - 16:06
LMAO

-stumps over the floor-


hey i'm not an antiamerican

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#17.3 Surr3al on 07 Dec 2004 - 16:11
Dude, that makes no sense, he didn't do this because he gets favor from tech geeks out there, it's just part of the no taxes agenda. Kerry would have done the same, blah blah blah.
#17.4 Sage_Override on 09 Dec 2004 - 08:38
Doesn't matter if you care what I think or not, moron. I hope to god you're British or some European slimebag. Whether you are or not, I detect that stupid tech geek attitude often associated with the likes of you UK nerds. Excuse me, but read up on the great history of Bush before you make horridly blatant flames at another person, twit. Saves me time and saves you the embarASSment of looking like a total uninformed pile of donkey sh*t.

And, by the way, you think he CARES? Hahahahaha!!!! Jesus, someone is in the biggest naive and denial phase of their life right now. Hahahaha!!!!!!!
(1 reply) #18 Daviesbad04 on 07 Dec 2004 - 15:02
Does this mean my comcast cable bill will go down....I find 60$ a big price for this thing
#18.1 BuzZBladE on 07 Dec 2004 - 17:08
it clearly states that no companies took advantage when the bill ran out. This is news from 1998 getting renewed.
(2 replies) #19 Puma on 07 Dec 2004 - 15:29
I knew I voted for the right guy!
#19.1 Magallanes on 07 Dec 2004 - 17:05
but kerry loss!

#19.2 DeepThought on 07 Dec 2004 - 22:11
Seconded. I voted for the right guy too.


He just lost, is all.
(1 reply) #20 jivemastert on 07 Dec 2004 - 17:30
this is how republicans makes the US better for everyone
#20.1 SquareSoft0 on 07 Dec 2004 - 18:06
It was just a renewal of the tax ban from '98 that was SUPPOSED to be there to begin with, did you even READ the article?
(1 reply) #21 nic on 07 Dec 2004 - 18:08
Hey! Don't know if any of you guys actually thought about this, but maybe taxing Internet access can actually lead to it being better. Then again, it will probably go to crooked buerocrats. Poltics is so confusing to me, i don't think I'll ever understand it.
#21.1 Djmutik1013 on 08 Dec 2004 - 18:30
Yeah Another Liberal Thinking that taxing something will make it better.

Liberalism is A Mental Disorder.

The Interent should not be taxed by any goverments becuase it does not belong to them
(2 replies) #22 deiong15 on 07 Dec 2004 - 19:33
wow i bet thebush feels good that he finally did one good act for the economy so far. all i can say is i cant wait til 4 years pass then we can have a real president instead of a plastic bobble head one


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#22.1 Ehrihk on 07 Dec 2004 - 21:10
Would it kill you to use some periods, or maybe an aposterphe? How about capitalizing some words?
#22.2 deiong15 on 07 Dec 2004 - 22:23
yea it would
(2 replies) #23 DrunkenMaster on 07 Dec 2004 - 19:40
Remove taxes from food instead (or at least essentials and not luxury). This would be a more welcome addition by the poor than for those who cannot otherwise afford a computer and Internet.
#23.1 Skyfrog on 07 Dec 2004 - 20:34
You have tax on food? That sucks...

/still waiting for the air tax
#23.2 kingbob on 07 Dec 2004 - 21:39
No tax on food here in PA!
#24 eilegz on 07 Dec 2004 - 21:04
finnnally bush did something right

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#25 SunnyB on 07 Dec 2004 - 21:45
Before everyone starts patting that jerk on the back, remember this.
He is a public official and it's his job to act in accordance to public demand.
His signing of the tax ban for another period doesn't make him a hero
any more than we are heroes for doing what we were hired to do.

George Bush is not a hero in any sense of the word. On the contrary,
he is nothing but a self serving politician and should be treated with
the disdain that goes with that position.
#26 Deke_Kun on 07 Dec 2004 - 22:33
Uhm, this may seem great, but am i the only one who can see through it?

Ban isnt permanent, only for another 3 years. Article also mentions a push to get more people using broadband between now and 2007. Then, once everyones got it, the ban expires, and BAM! Internet tax which hits everyone, rather than doing it now when it would only hit a portion of the people. Its so sneaky! makes him look like he's doing something good, when all he's doing is sucking people in to charge them more later. Bollocks I say.
#27 oddcrap on 07 Dec 2004 - 23:15
Well, from what I've read you're wrong it is permanent unless congress over-rules it. Bush moved the ban into a Law, which is more than likely permanent. Since it's now a law.
(2 replies) #28 artibatirae on 08 Dec 2004 - 00:13
I -really- wouldn't trust Bush with economics. I suppose most American's can't see it, because they don't seem to care too much about economics, but the dollar is plummeting... It's been steadily losing in value ever since Bush hopped on the throne. Any more of that, and it -will- lead to economical crisis, not just for America, but for the whole damn world.

Not that I complain, though... I'm buying some x-mas presents on Amazon.com. I mean, the dollar is dirt cheap right now!
#28.1 SimplyPotatoes on 08 Dec 2004 - 00:38
awesome job staying on topic. (Y)
#28.2 jagedEdge on 08 Dec 2004 - 01:37
Were you being sarcastic, SimplyPotatoes? Because I see his post as being extremely relevant. An internet tax ban is just more money taken away from the federal government, and they sorely need it.

Bush has to be the funniest figure I've ever seen. He's gone into no-tax mode, but any idiot can see that we need taxes. Bush has been one of the biggest spenders of federal funds (which, I might add, goes against the typical Republican platform).
(2 replies) #29 HawkMan on 08 Dec 2004 - 00:40
The comments in this news is funny...

Americans complaingin about taxes ... yet they generally get paid better and have FAR less taxes than any of us Europeans...
but at least we don't have to have a insurance policy for every little thing in our lives though
#29.1 SimplyPotatoes on 08 Dec 2004 - 00:55
QUOTE
yet they generally get paid better an

because we work harder and are smarter
#29.2 Sage_Override on 09 Dec 2004 - 08:45
You snobbish tech geekish Europeans can shove your sorry anti-american views right up your arse/bum/bonkle or whatever the f*ck you call it over in tea land. Neowin is Australian based if I'm not mistaken and besides, crumpet brains, the next time you get the urge to try to compare American views to European views, quality to quality or politics to politics with no constructive backing, well, DON'T. Easy enough? Good. Moving on...
#30 Puma on 08 Dec 2004 - 15:57
Now it's time for Bush to push broadband thru power line forward. I hate my cableone already. They increase fee all the time, but not speed.
#31 TC17 on 09 Dec 2004 - 06:50
Bush looks like an idiot with the stupid thumbs up photo.

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