Appeals court ponders Microsoft patent case
Posted by malebolgia on 09 December 2004 - 23:30 · 6 comments & 1828 views
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#1 Posted by xxpor on 09 Dec 2004 - 23:39
- Why dont eolas go after mozilla for firefox?
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#1.1 Posted by malebolgia on 09 Dec 2004 - 23:43
- Microsoft has the money.
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#1.2 Posted by shunuk on 10 Dec 2004 - 00:23
- Also you have to remember that the Mozilla Foundation have never created in-page plugin systems as such. They basically display certain well-known file-types within the page. If Eolas were to go up against Mozilla they'd have to try to tell Macromedia, Adobe, Real, Apple, Sun Microsystems, and no doubt many other companies to stop creating products which can be opened within a page. Can you imagine having to pay a license because you want to see Flash, PDFs, Audio and Movies, and Applets within a page? Then the W3C will have to pay a license for creating a standard which allows embedding of these cross-browser standard file-types? They can't tell Mozilla to not follow the W3C standards; or Opera, Omni and several other browser makers for that matter.
The real fish being fried here is ActivX or whatever Microsoft are calling it these days. I think the key is that ActivX allows real interfacing with the core operating system rather than simply showing visitors a picture of you and your cat. If they battled with Sun Microsystems or Adobe they'd get laughed at. They may as well say that you can't show pictures in web pages. -
#1.3 Posted by HawkMan on 10 Dec 2004 - 12:29
- Firefox' system for loading other stuff is the worst ever anyway.
after firefox has finally loaded the PDF(porobably aroudn 10 min or so.) you have to actually kill the pdf reader process to be able to go back away from the pdf, without locking up firefox completely.
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#2 Posted by conna on 10 Dec 2004 - 06:01
- I hope M$ wins.
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#2.1 Posted by shunuk on 10 Dec 2004 - 10:54
- You certainly do indeed. If Microsoft loses then you'll have message boxes popping out of your ears:
Absolutely Chuffing Nuts
The Eolas Situation
This has been going on for too long and it is pathetic. It is testament to how stupid software patenting can be in the USA. I can only hope that the stupid moves from the European Commission are overturned.
People have software patents coming out of their ears because they have made a crappy little program that does nothing other than demonstrate that they had an idea that they couldn't innovate upon.
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit spent 40 minutes asking about procedures that the district judge followed in the Chicago trial, which ended with an August 2003 jury verdict in favor of the University of California. The school and its spinoff company called Eolas share the rights to a patent that they claim covers plug-ins and applets that are invoked through a Web browser.
Judge Randall Rader suggested that the jury should have been permitted to decide whether or not earlier research--that could have changed the outcome of the lawsuit filed against Microsoft--was relevant. "The point is that the district judge didn't even let this be considered as prior art" by the jury, Rader said. Microsoft was barred from showing the jury information about an early Web browser called Viola created by a computer programmer and artist named Pei Wei and demonstrated to other researchers a year before the university filed for its patent.
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