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8mb Broadband in UK From UK Online

Mr magoo   on 27 January 2005 - 10:26 · 71 comments & 5268 views

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The UK Broadband market could see another high speed shake up from UK Online. The company has just announced plans to launch an 8 megabit broadband service in the UK.

With a massive download speed of 8mb, the service comes with a somewhat limited upload speed of 400K yet has an impressive content ratio of 33:1. The service is capped at 500GB per month, and will cost only £39.99 per month. Cable rival Telewest offer a 4MB service for £50.00, which comes free of any caps on usage. UK Online will be offering new sign ups a free wireless ethernet router before the 21st February.

Chris Stening, manager of UK Online, said “We want to enable consumers to experience the benefits of Broadband 8000, anywhere in their home, with the freedom that WiFi provides. The 8Mb service is already proving extremely popular, and with this offer, we’re confident that even more customers will be tempted to try the UK’s fastest home Internet connection for themselves.

UK Online are working with European ISP Easynet to 'un-bundle' the local loop, previously the bastion of ex-state telco BT. They claim that the service will be "available to over 4.4 million homes across the Britain by early 2005." UK Online claim to be the first company in the UK offering consumers 8mb broadband; how long before the rest start playing catch up?

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#1 shrike on 27 Jan 2005 - 10:30
2nd paragraph: 8mb download, 400 upload.

And jezuz.... that's ~AU$100. I know we're getting speed upgrades soon... but a quota of 500GB?!?!?! Holy crap.
(5 replies) #2 Gism0 on 27 Jan 2005 - 10:30
500GB? i'm better off keeping my 4mbit blueyonder then!
#2.1 twiglet on 27 Jan 2005 - 11:31
you download more than 500GB per month? dont think so.
#2.2 Post-It Note on 27 Jan 2005 - 16:09
Yeah... apparently in the future, if I download 10 gigs, I will get a complaint from my ISP.
#2.3 =NickJ= on 27 Jan 2005 - 18:10
twiglet you can very easily get over 500gig/mo from the newsgroups, my GrabIt has got over 30gig in the past day
#2.4 Burly on 27 Jan 2005 - 23:29
lol 30gig in one day? do you download every peice of warez, movies, games out there or sumthing?
#2.5 Confuser on 28 Jan 2005 - 00:57
We are three on a 6.5Mbits download / 1Mbits upload and we don't go over 40GB a month even if it has no cap...

$70/month CAD (so $23 each)
(5 replies) #3 xmintox on 27 Jan 2005 - 10:47
"With a massive upload speed of 8mb, the service comes with a slightly limited upload speed of 400K"

That doesnt make sense
#3.1 sinatosk on 27 Jan 2005 - 11:04
it does kind of... I think they're saying the modem is capable of going up to 8mbit(1mb/s) but it's capped at 3.2mbit(400Kb/s)

slighty???? they capped more than 50% of the upload... they call that slighty????
#3.2 twiglet on 27 Jan 2005 - 11:29
lol not quite. it's just a typo.
#3.3 vetMr magoo on 27 Jan 2005 - 11:44
Yup - sorry readers. Touched the article up - its been a long morning?!

#3.4 leesmithg on 27 Jan 2005 - 14:49
Dam I prefer uncapped.
#3.5 =NickJ= on 27 Jan 2005 - 18:13
sinatosk its 400Kbits/s, not 400KB/s, plus ADSL's upload maximum is only 1mbit not 8mbit
(3 replies) #4 eck0 on 27 Jan 2005 - 10:54
"The company has just announced plans to launch an 8 megabyte broadband service in the UK."

8 megabyte? You mean 8 megabit.

Oh and the correct jaggen is 8Mb, not 8mb
#4.1 Wrath Delivery on 27 Jan 2005 - 14:49
1. Everybody knows what they meant.

2. The correct units are actually 'megabits per second' ('Mb/s' or 'Mbps').

3. 'Jaggen' is not a word.

4. The author of the article is highly unlikely ever to read your comment, so what purpose does it serve?

5. Placing a wink smiley after your comment makes you look even more stupid, as it indicates your attitude is that you are doing us all a favour by providing us with such a treasure of a post.

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#4.2 feelgood13 on 27 Jan 2005 - 20:08
Waste Delivery:

1) that's an assumption

2) the units are correct, what you just wrote (Mbps) is called a DERIVED unit

4) if the dumbass author does not know the significance of proper casing for SI prefixes, i dont want to hear of any other garbage he has to say

5) youre ASSUMING the smiley is winking, it could be that the smiley's eyes are fuct up.



waste delivery, i just dont think you have the smarts to be the badass posting cop that you think you are.
#4.3 eck0 on 27 Jan 2005 - 23:05
Wrath Delivery,

You sir are an idiot.

1. I was correcting his mistakes, shouldn't mistakes be corrected?

2. Yes thoughs are the correct units, but 1. Everybody knows what they meant.

3. Sorry, made a spelling mistake. Jargon. Look it up: Google.

4. He read my comment and many others, did you see some of his mistakes corrected? I suggest you try reading more often.

5. You have a wild imagination. My attitude is polite, is yours?

6. And lastly, You Suck. Gfed.
(1 reply) #5 SOSAGES1 on 27 Jan 2005 - 10:55
while im no fan boy of the "old news" posts -
im sure this is old news read about it last year and have seen adverts in various mags for the last few months but thanks anyway
#5.1 D-j-M on 27 Jan 2005 - 15:13


Was gonna post the same thing, even though I hate old news posts.

www.adslguide.org.uk < good place for keeping up with UK Broadband news.
#6 lunamonkey on 27 Jan 2005 - 11:03
^ ditto. it was anounced a while ago, but wasn't available to hardly any people, and was only trialling.
(1 reply) #7 Alex_is_Axel on 27 Jan 2005 - 11:06
lol terrific, and my town doesnt support it still
#7.1 elliot on 27 Jan 2005 - 13:09
I'm not even going to check...
#8 stezo2k on 27 Jan 2005 - 11:27
500GB isn't that bad... pretty good if you ask me for the price
(1 reply) #9 dismuter on 27 Jan 2005 - 11:42
Got ADSL2+ here in France, 20Mbit download 1Mbit upload, no cap, unlimited national VoIP phone, 100 TV channels, all for about £20. Some ISPs also offer unlimited 8Mbit/512Kbit for about £10. That's all thanks to the local loop having been un-bundled.
Still nowhere near Japan's 100Mbit VDSL at cheap prices though.
#9.1 epple on 27 Jan 2005 - 18:46
Some here in Sweden can enjoy 1Gbps for ~£64 a month.
#10 essential on 27 Jan 2005 - 11:44
lol it makes me laugh

In France we can have 20Mb (2000Ko/s)and 1Mb upload (120Ko/s) for 30 euros/month (with unlimited download of course)
This UK thing is so godamn expensive

http://www.free.fr

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(3 replies) #11 Jayzee on 27 Jan 2005 - 12:08
Hahahaha!! 26Mbit here in Sweden with 1Mbit upload for about 40 euro/month! No download limit (ofcourse)! UK prices suck...

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#11.1 bucko on 27 Jan 2005 - 17:02
Im moving to Sweden
#11.2 Rudy on 27 Jan 2005 - 18:32
im coming, let me check when's the next flight lol

Sweden sounds awesome, poor copyright laws (well good for the customers ) and fast internet
#11.3 bush on 27 Jan 2005 - 20:13
sweden, here i come
(4 replies) #12 lunamonkey on 27 Jan 2005 - 12:20
We don't care what you foreigners have. Our infrastructure is old an unless we want to dig up the whole country then we have to utilise the existing technology the best we can.

Uk sucks, yeah good one. Bork off.
#12.1 ctomer on 27 Jan 2005 - 13:35
No need to be so defensive. If you read what he wrote, he said "UK prices suck", you are the only one who mentioned "UK sucks".

It's common knowledge within the UK that the prices suck. You've surely heard of "Rip-off Britain".
#12.2 dismuter on 27 Jan 2005 - 16:16
He did write UK sucks, then changed it to "UK prices suck".
#12.3 sard on 27 Jan 2005 - 17:17
It’s nothing to do with old infrastructure and everything to do with BT dragging its feet over unbundling, in a desperate attempt to maintain its monopoly. UK prices do suck, and if that imprisonment without trial legislation gets approved the whole country will most definitely suck That’s a whole different discussion though.
#12.4 exilis on 29 Jan 2005 - 16:52
Taking this slightly off topic, it's not all BTs fault. BT wanted to start putting fibre to the doorstep in the 80's (it was actually trialed in a few areas) but the Goverment at the time decided otherwise.
(1 reply) #13 The Cub on 27 Jan 2005 - 12:24
And now it gets the front page news :
#13.1 bucko on 27 Jan 2005 - 17:03
And you are a twit, I didn't know about this until today thanks to neowin
#14 Cyrana on 27 Jan 2005 - 13:22
You flamers get old. Every country has its issues anyway.

What does suck is the price for high-speed internet in the UK, though. When I move there I'm going from Comcast here at 4000/384 to whatever I get though, so it isn't like I'll notice that much. :|
#15 netizen on 27 Jan 2005 - 14:09
The whole reason we're in this state is because BT has been allowed to get away with price fixing and holding back technology in order to maximise profits for far too long. It's not helped that we have a goverment that's historically ignorant of technology, no matter who the ruling party is!
#16 brent3000 on 27 Jan 2005 - 14:26
i wish i could get AU has nothing.... no upload thats cheap
#17 RobertH on 27 Jan 2005 - 15:26
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Unfortunately, UK Online Broadband 8000 is not currently available in your area.




I expected as much as i live near the coast, but at the moment i have 1.1MB/s for £33 a month (no cap). The upload is only 256k though... we need services with BETTER UPLOAD RATES!

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(1 reply) #18 Harsesis on 27 Jan 2005 - 15:54
Hmmm and u gotta have a bt telephone line aswell :/
#18.1 saralk on 27 Jan 2005 - 17:44
you have always had to have a BT telephone line though, since BT owns all the exchanges. Unless you go with cable or something.
(4 replies) #19 Mothium on 27 Jan 2005 - 16:06
just wait for BT's 21st Century network to be completed, which will be till 2009 when its 100% done.

Everything except the last mile is going to be digital, newly built houses may have the last mile done in fibre which could mean really really fast and relativly cheap broadband.

The UK is behind now but just wait a few years, no other country is commiting to such a scheme.
#19.1 kitchenutensils on 27 Jan 2005 - 16:33
very true! i forgot the 21st century plans
#19.2 bucko on 27 Jan 2005 - 17:04
sounds bs to me
#19.3 RangerLG on 27 Jan 2005 - 18:34
A century is a long time.
#19.4 mrbester on 28 Jan 2005 - 14:07
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sounds bs to me

Agreed, I believe that my tinpot exchange (only 3 miles from biggest south coast PoP BTW) will be upgraded by 2009 just as much as I believe my tinpot TV transmitter (4 poxy channels) will be upgraded to digital before they turn off the analogue signal in 2008.

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relativly cheap broadband

As opposed to what? Anything we have now? This is such a likely scenario: Having gouged customers for the last n years, the providers suddenly have a fit of philanthropy and drop prices. Yeah right. Pass the bong when you're done with it.
(1 reply) #20 Post-It Note on 27 Jan 2005 - 16:14
Arrgghh

I want fast internet with insane caps, but that's not gonna happen for a while in Canada, Vancouver. We're paying $40 CAD a month for 1.5Mb/512Kb, with caps of 10Gigabytes within a few months (perhaps... it's unlimited now).
#20.1 dismuter on 27 Jan 2005 - 16:18
How about fast internet without caps? It's not too much to ask, many countries have ISPs who don't put caps.
#21 neo_joel on 27 Jan 2005 - 17:00
Thats pretty decent.
My ISP is upgrading its services from 5mb to 8mb later this year, cant wait for that
(3 replies) #22 xMorpheousx416 on 27 Jan 2005 - 17:05
I don't know about the rest of you, but d/ling 500Gs a month is way more than I'll ever reach. I don't even have that much space to put that much software/music/files...whatever on. And, it doesn't really matter how fast your connection to the internet is, if you are connected to servers, other computers that don't have a fast/faster connection.

The fiber optic internet is here in the US, Verizon is now offering starter packages from 10-15Mb up/1-5 down speeds for $40.00, which is cheaper than most DSL packages now at $60.00. The only thing we'd be getting at this point for buying such high speed access, is nothing but bragging rights. I use 1.5, as I suspect alot of people do...but my average d/l speed for the past 6 months hasn't been anywhere near my peak...somewhere around 40-70k/s at best...and I consider myself lucky if I am connected to someone which lets me d/l at 170-220k/s as I should be getting.

The true benefits of a fast connection, putting your money to work for you, is if the majority of servers/computers out there share similar connections.....and until that time, the only thing you're truly paying for, is bragging rights.
#22.1 Burly on 27 Jan 2005 - 23:25
i think you mean "10-15mb down/1.5 up"
and the majority of decent download servers use up 100mbit+ lines. also i can imagine using this if hosting a game. and when you mention connected to one person, thats one person i dont mean if your just using aim or msn but if your using bittorrent you can easily use that bandwidth up on popular torrents
#22.2 xMorpheousx416 on 28 Jan 2005 - 00:18
I stand corrected. I actually meant 10-30M down, 1-5M up (yeah, 5mb up, but costs alot) Yes, most high-end servers use large capacity bandwidth lines, but then again, a vast majority of us usually connect to each other to play games, d/l music..etc, and that's where we see ourselves sitting for hours on end waiting even on our expensive DSL lines....for files that shouldn't take as long as typically advertised. Verizon is even said to be offering a 30mb line....for businesses.

The benefit of large bandwidth internet will be most felt when the majority of the lines we use, switch over to fiber optic. Very similar to the Internet 2 that colleges use, they benefit because the entire system is designed from the ground up, using large b/w equipment and computers. It will take time, but soon even the slowest of speeds we seen d/ling, are going to be around 1.5mb/s.

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#22.3 DodgeViper on 01 Feb 2005 - 19:09
You're right, I hardly ever reach my max download speed and I'm on 512Kb/s, this really pisses me off and think that I might as well downgrade to 256Kb since I'm not getting speeds of 60Kb and usually lucky to get 40kb, but sometimes get 50kb+ when downloading from Mirc but this is also rare even on the fastest servers.

I know people on 3mb and only download at 30kb so it's not going to make a difference if I got to 1mb since the upload speeds stay the same so if I download from someone with BB, I'm only going to get the same even if they have a fast connection.
#23 Dinggus on 27 Jan 2005 - 17:07
omg i'm going to move to UK i'm on 28k :X
#24 Arkos Reed on 27 Jan 2005 - 17:18
poor brits and belgians hehe
high prices, caps all the way up your as*es, not as bad as aussies tho

good thing there's been a competition war over here (france), since late 2003 we can enjoy uncapped and unlimited ADSL (up to 8Mbit/1Mbit) and ADSL2+ (up to 20Mbit/1Mbit) for prices around 30€ a month, sometimes including free phone (unlimited calls to fixed lines), free TV over DSL etc... basic ADSL packages starting at 14.99 a month (full speed ADSL that is)
#25 Sneakeh on 27 Jan 2005 - 17:21
I have unlimited 8/1 mbit, cheap too.
(1 reply) #26 Timmah on 27 Jan 2005 - 17:21
Err.. this is old news...
#26.1 lunamonkey on 27 Jan 2005 - 17:55
you're old :p

It was on small scale trials before. and you had to pre-order everywhere

It is now "live" in many major cities.
#27 nic on 27 Jan 2005 - 18:31
Wow! Thats sounds like a good service. I was feeling pretty good about my 1500/860 DSL connection down here for $44 a month (that is without all the tagged on tax that probably adds $10).

Well, I think I'll still rather have 860kbps up rather then 400kbps up as that will likely effect game play on on-line games.

8mbps sounds really optomistic to me. Who's going to provide you with a 8mbps download stream out there on cyberspace? Well, I guess it is all comming...

(and then everything will be in place for my doomsday device.... )
#28 RaiderOnline on 27 Jan 2005 - 18:50
luckys ...
#29 M2Ys4U on 27 Jan 2005 - 20:01
grr.. this sucks.

They have Reading central, and Reading South, but nor Reading North
(2 replies) #30 WinMacLin on 27 Jan 2005 - 21:28
Hopefully Blueyonder will try and compete and bump everyone up YAY!
#30.1 Burly on 27 Jan 2005 - 23:26
not only blueyonder but i think every isp will bump theres up as it has been doing for the last couple of months better news for the customer
#30.2 cunni on 28 Jan 2005 - 09:52
The competition has already started, hence the 2 free upgrades blueyonder just delt out at the end of last year, i cant wait till we have 10Mbps/1Mbps with 1Mbps i would be able to host anything from my website, to a healthy 12 Player Game Server without net connection stress.

This is a Big move for the UK and hopefully it will start the Battle of the ISP's

Woohoo!
#31 bongo on 27 Jan 2005 - 23:45
Man..

check out Australian ADSL prices/options @ whirlpool.net.au

Alot of us pay equal around 20-30 quid for usually 512/256 ADSL with caps or "shaping" - either by means of usage caps (over 10/20gig and be locked down to 6kb/sec) or peaking areas - 20gig total dl in off peak, 10gig in peak etc.

I have lived in the UK and was uber impressed by Virgin.net's 24.99quid a month for unlimited 512/256 - coming from oz I was very happy indeed.

So for all those people complaining - let's keep it simple man - be grateful for what you have, cos there's always someone worse off.

You don't know what you got until it's gone (pave paradise).

#32 Kenno on 28 Jan 2005 - 08:56
Bongo is very right! You people are very lucky. For people in NZ like me will never be able to afford any 10MB in the next 6 or 7 years... I've recently applied for the 256Kbps dsl for NZ$50 a month, have been waiting for a week already; but still the phoneline hasn't been adsl enabled. Sucks so bad but I had no choice but to wait!!!!
#33 Chrysalis on 28 Jan 2005 - 10:50
for this to start a isp battle they will need to advertise on tv, because most of uk population only knows of wannadoo and BT who have super low caps with max speed of 1mbit.
#34 fpd on 29 Jan 2005 - 19:26
Can't get it from my postal code, awww well
#35 alanzeino2002 on 31 Jan 2005 - 06:51
Bongo, us aussies have it so bad. There are people here saying 500GB isnt enough? OUR CAPS ARE 10-20GB ON THE $79.95+ PLANS!. AND THEY GET HALF A TERABYTE FOR AU$80 !

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