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Neowin Talks Security with Microsoft

Tom Warren   on 07 February 2005 - 00:40 · 46 comments & 9764 views

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With the recently released Service Pack 2 for Windows XP we at Neowin wanted to know more about Microsoft's security commitments to their customers.

We recently had the chance to ask Microsoft a few questions on the subject of how successful Windows XP SP2 has been and the future of security improvements.

Here's a snip:

Q: How is NGSCB progressing and will it be a part of Longhorn?

A: We are evolving NGSCB in a direction that we believe will provide broader value to customers and partners. We are still focused on delivering secure computing technologies (that utilize new hardware) in the Longhorn timeframe. Longhorn is the target for NGSCB. That said, Microsoft wants to make absolutely sure that we are delivering a high quality security product. If we are confident that NGSCB meets and exceeds the quality and security standards that Microsoft has set then we will ship it as part of Longhorn.

For more questions and answers read more....

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1. How successful has XPSP2 been? What are the precise figures on downloads and distribution efforts?

Four months after becoming available - at least 148 million copies of Windows XP SP 2 have been distributed around the world in 25 languages. Microsoft is very pleased with these results but our work isn't done yet. It is critical that customers who haven't installed SP 2 yet, do so as quickly as possible. Only then can they be assured they have the most secure version of Windows possible.

2. Do you feel the development of XPSP2 was a success? Are there any changes you would make in the future if you had to create such a service pack again?

Microsoft is very pleased with the results. Windows XP SP2 is a significant step toward Microsoft's goal of making PCs more resilient in the face of evolving threats and our goal of making Windows XP more secure by default. It was expressly designed by Microsoft to help provide proactive protection for Windows XP customers and was one of the largest and most ambitious security-related product development efforts in the company's history.

New features like the enhanced Windows Firewall and Data Execution Protection provide a higher level of protection "out-of-the-box," when compared to prior Windows client operating system releases. We think of security as a journey, not a destination, and we believe that it's simply unrealistic to expect a service pack to represent a permanent security solution. SP2 contains a number of significant security technologies and behavior changes that help thwart attacks, but we'll remain diligent in evaluating modern threats and releasing software updates as needed.

3. Looking back, why was .NET framework never included with SP2?

SP2 does include the .NET Framework, though it's not installed by default unless you are running Tablet or MCE where it is required and you need the latest updates.

4. With security continuing to be a major concern of all Windows users and the main area of attack for most competitors, can you tell us any specifics of future plans to further improve the security that was introduced to us in SP2?

Windows XP Service Pack 2 was designed to reduce the number of critical vulnerabilities and at the same time help make the software more resilient to attack. Since the release of Windows XP Service Pack 2, only a single bulletin has been rated critical for that platform, compared to eight that have been released for Windows XP without SP2 installed. We have made tremendous progress; however, software is inherently complex and will never be 100% perfect. While there is no such thing as a state of absolute security, we believe SP2 is the most secure version of Windows that we have shipped.

One of the key features of Windows XP SP2 is the Automatic Update feature which automatically downloads the latest Microsoft security updates and ensures your PC is always up to date. For this reason, users are encouraged, upon installation, to immediately turn on Automatic Updates to receive the latest security updates automatically. Microsoft continually monitors the changing threat environment and takes action to help protect customers as soon as a threat is understood. As soon as Microsoft finds a threat we work quickly to analyze the situation and provide customers with the appropriate solution based on customer need.

5. One of the main areas of concern, in terms of security, has always been IE's extremely tight integration into Windows itself. Does Microsoft have any plans of, perhaps, going towards a more module based environment, with Longhorn, in hopes of further securing the OS?

Internet Explorer remains a viable, valuable, and mature browser that meets the needs of our customers and ISVs who have a great deal invested in it. Major security improvements were made in SP2 and innovating on Internet Explorer in the future and continuing to honor the investment our customers and ISVs have made in Internet Explorer remains the best and smartest option available to us.

The IE team is in the process of designing and developing Internet Explorer for Longhorn. It's too early to provide a list of specific features, but major investments are being made in the areas of end user features, security and privacy, and developer support (for both add-on and website developers).

6. How is NGSCB progressing and will it be a part of Longhorn?

We are evolving NGSCB in a direction that we believe will provide broader value to customers and partners. We are still focused on delivering secure computing technologies (that utilize new hardware) in the Longhorn timeframe. Longhorn is the target for NGSCB. That said, Microsoft wants to make absolutely sure that we are delivering a high quality security product. If we are confident that NGSCB meets and exceeds the quality and security standards that Microsoft has set then we will ship it as part of Longhorn.

7. XPSP2 was a great step to protecting users against Spy ware. How will future versions of Windows follow these first steps to protecting users from future Spyware threats?

As part of our ongoing work to build trust in computing for our customers, Microsoft is providing new solutions that help protect PCs on a regularly updated basis. In January, Microsoft announced the availability of two new solutions that will help protect customers against spyware and viruses.

- The first beta version of Microsoft Windows AntiSpyware-a new spyware prevention, detection, and removal solution, which was made available on January 6.

Customers have made it clear that Spyware and other deceptive software represent a major problem and they want Microsoft to deliver effective solutions. We're offering this solution because we think it's the best way for us to get great technology into our customers' hands in the very near term. The tools will be available to users of Windows 2000, Windows XP, and Windows Server 2003. We'll invite our customers to install the tool, and the feedback we get will help us decide our next steps.

- The first monthly installment of Microsoft Windows malicious software removal tool-a solution for removing worms and viruses from customers' PCs- this was made available January 11, as part of the existing monthly software security update process.

8. Do you feel Microsoft has been speedy enough in addressing issues with Internet Explorer, even those found in XPSP2?

Malicious content and attacks coming from the Internet are growing at an alarming rate. Enterprise customers are concerned about the integrity of their computer systems and the protection of their intellectual property.

With the recent security improvements introduced by Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) and its advanced security technologies, Internet Explorer is a much improved browsing option for business customers who need to access the Internet. Windows XP SP2 includes a major new upgrade to Internet Explorer focused solely on security enhancements. It is designed to help protect against malicious attacks and reduce unwanted content and downloads, including spyware. Windows XP SP2 also provides interface enhancements that make configuring security settings easier for administrators and end users.

Key security-related features enabled in Internet Explorer in Windows XP SP2 include these:

  • New security zone settings. Architectural enhancements mitigate entire classes of security vulnerabilities and help protect against zone elevation and local machine zone attacks.

  • Information Bar. A new toolbar provides better information about Internet Explorer settings and alerts users to unsigned and unintended downloads.

  • Pop-up Blocker. This feature helps eliminate a common path for spyware attacks and reduces unwanted ads and content.

  • Download monitoring. Download monitoring warns users about potentially harmful downloads and helps them block unwanted and unauthorized programs before they reach the PC.

  • Add-on Manager. This tool helps users manage add-on components, and detects and provides mitigations if problems occur.

    Technologies introduced in Internet Explorer by Windows XP SP2 are described in detail at: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documen...s/appendix.mspx.

    Microsoft is also bolstering its defense against Internet security threats through the Microsoft Security Response Center (MSRC), a world-class service and support organization. The MSRC has a dedicated team, and a large network of ISP and anti-virus partners, to respond quickly to security issues and better protect customers. MSRC evaluates and analyzes security issues, creates and tests updates, and distributes security bulletins and associated updates. The MSRC also works with law enforcement agencies worldwide to shut down malicious attacks and prosecute the criminals behind them.

    The next version of the Windows operating system, code-named Windows "Longhorn," will further advance Internet Explorer security with additional capabilities focused on evolving Internet security and privacy threats.

    9. What is the current plan for the future of hot fixes for current and future operating systems? Will we find Office and other Microsoft product updates on Windows Update soon?

    Our number one goal is to make it as easy as possible for Windows users to keep their PCs secure. Windows Update V5 has been enhanced through Windows XP Service Pack 2 to improve ease of use and discoverability of the most important security updates for Windows customers. It also highlights the opt-in information for Automatic Updates which will help users keep their PC as secure as possible by automatically downloading and installing critical updates

    Within Windows XP SP2, users will be provided with information about the Automatic Updates service at set up and given the choice to opt in or out. Also, a new feature called, "Update at shutdown" is only available with XP SP2. This allows a user to install updates during the shutdown process. This way instead of the updates themselves causing a reboot at a time not desired by the user, the installation occurs when the users decide to shutdown their computers. WUv5 is also required for customers to download SP2.

    Windows Update includes updates for components that ship in Windows only.

    10. Although we're in the early stages on XPSP3 development, what are we likely to expect from Microsoft?

    It is too early to discuss plans for SP3.

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    (1 reply) #1 ziper on 07 Feb 2005 - 00:50
    "If we are confident that NGSCB meets and exceeds the quality and security standards that Microsoft has set then we will ship it as part of Longhorn"

    I sure hope not.
    #1.1 SquareSoft0 on 07 Feb 2005 - 01:09
    Wow, what a delightfully unfounded statement.
    (1 reply) #2 thenay on 07 Feb 2005 - 00:59
    YAY! A new version of IE for longhorn, lets hope it brings back more IE users and IE fixes those security issues
    #2.1 some_guy on 07 Feb 2005 - 03:22
    Next thing you know, Longhorn IE is actually in turn IE 5.5
    Now that would be both sad and funny!!!
    (4 replies) #3 Powerless on 07 Feb 2005 - 01:06
    I like Q.10.

    we're

    #3.1 dL on 07 Feb 2005 - 01:29
    That's what I was thinking too, we're? Huh?

    dL
    #3.2 The Cub on 07 Feb 2005 - 01:49
    Am I missing somthing? We're as in we are. whats wrong with that?
    #3.3 Island Roots on 07 Feb 2005 - 02:21
    The placement makes it sound like Neowin is helping Microsoft code SP3.
    #3.4 planetik on 07 Feb 2005 - 02:52
    Maybe they are... not.
    (4 replies) #4 BigBoy on 07 Feb 2005 - 01:31
    QUOTE
    We recently had the chance to ask Microsoft a few questions...


    Really... you asked Microsoft huh... who is that exactly?
    #4.1 Post-It Note on 07 Feb 2005 - 02:54
    When a company has incorporated, it is considered a legal person, which means that it is correct to ask it questions.

    Of course it was quite anal of you to ask that in the first place.
    #4.2 markjensen on 07 Feb 2005 - 03:05
    BigBoy was likely just asking for who the person was that answered the questions, a Director of some department, a Vice President, or a janitor?

    I didn't take his post as being a smart-ass comment.
    #4.3 Post-It Note on 07 Feb 2005 - 04:25
    Maybe if he asked it differently, but when he added 'Really' and 'huh?' it made it a smartass comment.
    #4.4 BigBoy on 07 Feb 2005 - 15:23
    Well, come on - markjensen gets it - let's say I work at Microsoft. I talk to my neighboor about something in Windows. Does that mean that "he asked Microsoft" about that?

    If there is no source listed - where is the creditibility of the data?
    (2 replies) #5 ichi on 07 Feb 2005 - 01:33
    If that NGSCB thinggie what was once known as "palladium"?
    #5.1 EduardValencia on 07 Feb 2005 - 14:53
    is known as palladium my friend,is known
    #5.2 PseudoRandomDragon on 07 Feb 2005 - 19:29
    Yeah, it has a nicer name though: "trusted computing". Probably will go hand-n-hand with TCPA. Of course you should know that trusted computing is not to be trusted.
    (1 reply) #6 KXM on 07 Feb 2005 - 02:11
    I hate to be the one to sound like a dumb ass, but... what the hell is: NGSCB?
    #7 Nelsinho on 07 Feb 2005 - 02:56
    ^^thanks Mark for the link
    (3 replies) #8 eilegz on 07 Feb 2005 - 03:03
    QUOTE
    One of the main areas of concern, in terms of security, has always been IE's extremely tight integration into Windows itself. Does Microsoft have any plans of, perhaps, going towards a more module based environment, with Longhorn, in hopes of further securing the OS?


    that was a good question too bad that microsoft dont want to take that approach, patches would come faster and windows user would be more secure.

    Lets see what happen with longhorn.
    #8.1 bangbang023 on 07 Feb 2005 - 03:23
    Son of a...thats a question I had suggested we ask. Tom asks it of them and they completeloy avoid answering it. What the hell man!?
    #8.2 eilegz on 07 Feb 2005 - 07:46
    its simple because they are against this.

    Why because they dont want to lose their advantage over the competence.

    They want to force us use or install ie even we want it or not.
    #8.3 SquareSoft0 on 08 Feb 2005 - 00:56
    Learn to type, you sound like a retard... nevermind, your idea made you sound like a retard. Don't like IE? Don't use Windows, problem solved.
    (11 replies) #9 shichiroji4 on 07 Feb 2005 - 04:53
    QUOTE
    3. Looking back, why was .NET framework never included with SP2?

    SP2 does include the .NET Framework, though it's not installed by default unless you are running Tablet or MCE where it is required and you need the latest updates.


    See how that M$ lacky attempts to divert attention and change topic? Instead of answering why .Net was not in SP2, he mumbled some garbage about it being included in Tablet MCE.

    The truth is simple. .NET was such a failure that hardly anyone is using it now. Many software developers are not taking up this new platform and it's nothing but a major embarrassment for M$. The lying beneath contempt ****face is just trying to make excuses for his master Bill.
    #9.1 bangbang023 on 07 Feb 2005 - 05:44
    The platform is far from being an embarassment. It's really well done. I love it and will continue to use it to do any small apps I may need to do.
    #9.2 SquareSoft0 on 07 Feb 2005 - 05:55
    Shichi gave up his twisted logic in exchange for pure lies and personal attacks, all reasoning is hence thrown out the door.
    #9.3 Gumboot on 07 Feb 2005 - 06:19
    If you want a good example of why .NET is not a failure, see here:

    RSS Bandit

    The latest beta is pretty amazing.
    #9.4 Jugalator on 07 Feb 2005 - 07:26
    Huh?

    I don't believe .NET to be a failure, but an RSS news aggregator, however good, is never alone an indication of the success of .NET.
    #9.5 Ideas Man on 07 Feb 2005 - 09:26
    You obviously don't use .NET. .NET is one of the best things Microsoft has made, and the .NET framework v2 is looking very, very nice as well.

    Instead of posting bullsh*t to gain attention, base your arguments on facts and real experiences instead of Microsoft bashing. And for god sakes, M$ is pathetic, everyone who does that really needs to be shot.

    BTW, he did answer the question, read it again.
    #9.6 g0dlike on 07 Feb 2005 - 10:14
    IMHO, .NET is very good on the server-side (ASP.NET), but not so good on the client-side. It's slow and the framework is big (20+ MB - think that many people still rely on slow internet connections like dialup). How many commercial apps coded in .NET did you see lately (or ever)? I hardly remember ONE.
    #9.7 IGx89 on 07 Feb 2005 - 14:04
    SnapStream BeyondTV3, to name just one...
    #9.8 antareus on 07 Feb 2005 - 14:17
    First of all, using "M$" makes all your 'points' moot automatically.

    Secondly, don't talk about what you don't know. It is obvious you're not a developer.
    #9.9 Briatic on 07 Feb 2005 - 14:18
    Norton Ghost 9.0?
    #9.10 mx3 on 07 Feb 2005 - 17:33
    Anyone who hates .NET definately hasn't used it. It's an amazing piece of work and being that much of longhorn's new technology is based off .NET, Microsoft is hardly giving up on it.

    QUOTE
    It's slow and the framework is big (20+ MB - think that many people still rely on slow internet connections like dialup).

    If you think .NET is slow, you must not have seen that game that was made in C#. Being that it's JIT compiled, .NET can sometimes even be faster because processor-specific optimizations can be used.

    Anyway, it's probably not even worth replying. "shichiroji4" is synonymous for "flaming." :/
    #9.11 frazell on 07 Feb 2005 - 17:33
    QUOTE
    Norton Ghost 9.0?


    Yep that's built on .NET too...

    .NET is an awesome platform and unless you're a developer you wouldn't realize that. The only reason for .NET's slow adoption, outside of server applications, is because MS dosent install .NET by default in one of the service packs.

    Put basically, if .NET was such a failure, why would Longhorn be built completly on the .NET framework?

    Gotta love it when non-developers **** out hot air...
    (2 replies) #10 amitpagarwal on 07 Feb 2005 - 11:45
    He didn't spoke a word on XP SP3 but there was some mention on win supersite

    Amit
    My Webpage
    #10.1 SquareSoft0 on 07 Feb 2005 - 13:10
    Quit linking to your crappy blog, it's annoying.
    #10.2 EduardValencia on 07 Feb 2005 - 14:55
    #11 scoobydoobie on 07 Feb 2005 - 11:47
    All those questons were candy coated and didn't materialize into anything worth reading.

    I guess when you're holding hands with Ms you don't want to rock the boat.

    So what did Ms do? Give you a list of questions that you could ask?
    (1 reply) #12 Burly on 07 Feb 2005 - 11:53
    8. Do you feel Microsoft has been speedy enough in addressing issues with Internet Explorer, even those found in XPSP2?

    Why did they tell us about xpsp2 here and didnt at all touch on an answer to the question...
    But i guess its too much to ask m$ to admit their failure...
    #12.1 SquareSoft0 on 07 Feb 2005 - 13:09
    Gee, somebody's a little flame-happy. Perhaps if you had read the response, so you can have some sort of basis of information, all the cool kids are doing it these days.
    #13 Amsterdam on 07 Feb 2005 - 17:35
    Very nice article Tom. good job.
    (1 reply) #14 DELTA75329 on 07 Feb 2005 - 18:09
    Question 9 talks about the "Update At Shutdown" feature in SP2.. has anyone seen an option for this? I have not seen any configuation for it, and I'd like to turn it on if it's not on already by default. Thanks for the help.
    #15 Kalphegor on 07 Feb 2005 - 19:09
    QUOTE
    The IE team is in the process of designing and developing Internet Explorer for Longhorn. It's too early to provide a list of specific features, but major investments are being made in the areas of end user features, security and privacy, and developer support (for both add-on and website developers).

    I hope that IE7 will be updated from a Mozilla 4.0 engine (current engine for IE6) to a Mozilla 5.0 engine (like Firefox and Opera) and full CSS compatibility CSS 1.0, 2.0 even 3.0!

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