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Microsoft Plan Bold New PC Features With Longhorn

Mr magoo   on 10 February 2005 - 13:00 · 32 comments & 4634 views

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At this year's VS Live and Windows Anywhere event, Microsoft showed of new technology it plans to launch with Longhorn for laptops and PCs, Techworld reports.

The company plans to offer a system based around the SPOT technology used in Microsoft's line of watches. Users will be able to see mobile phone style displays on the top of laptops containing various pieces of information; Microsoft foresee the screens showing the time, appointment and email information as well as common information like the laptop's status. At a demo during the event, Microsoft showed off a demo with calendar, contacts, tasks, inbox and media player working.

Microsoft will be pushing the technology to laptop makers to coincide with Longhorn, expected to be launched in 2006.

Sriram Viji, a program manager at Microsoft told Techworld that the technology would be similar to mobile phones and would be powered off the laptop's battery. The data would be cached allowing it to function when the PC is turned off; also included is a small processor and flash memory. The hardware could be programmed to wake up the computer periodically to download and update information. Microsoft will be offering information to developers around the time of the first Longhorn beta, expected around June of this year.

The technology will be supported in all version of Longhorn, yet will have a special focus and use for laptop users. This is one of the first peripheral pieces of gear to emerge for Longhorn, and it sounds impressive; the excitement, and expectations, are building.

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"So i happened to look over my finances this past weekend and i realized something: i'm broke. which is odd, because i had a bunch of liquid capital in my checking account last time i checked, and now all of a sudden i have nothing.

i realized the root problem was that google's relocation process requires the employee to pay all the expenses up front and then get reimbursed for them later. that means you have to cover an apartment hunting trip, your final relocation, lease termination fees and temporary housing expenses all in advance. not to mention that they don't pay out your signing bonus and relocation money until your first paycheck (which i haven't received yet). finally, add in the fact that i had to put down two months rent as a deposit for my new lease, and i'm flat broke.

on the plus side, this first paycheck is going to be huge... (which unfortunately means i'll probably end up getting taxed huge on it. doh!)

which led me to thinking about the "benefits" package at google. as i thought about it, i realized that most of the "benefits" actually seem to be thinly veiled timesavers to keep you at work. take for example: free lunch and dinner. now this one is an awesome value proposition for google; i'm not exactly sure why other companies don't also recognize the value and join in. consider this: it probably costs google a maximum of $3 per employee for lunch and $5 per employee for dinner. so that's only $8 per day, but if you think about the fact that the employee now probably only takes a half hour lunch break and also stays late working, the company actually realizes far more than an $8 gain in employee output. not to mention that most people think this is a great "benefit" and google gets a ton of positive press on it. in short, this "benefit" is designed benefit the company, not the employee.

then look at all these other fringe "benefits": on-site doctor, on-site dentist, on-site car washes... the list goes on and on with one similarity: every "benefit" is on-site so you never leave work. i'm not going to say this isn't convenient for us employees, but between all these devices designed to make us stay at work, they might as well just have dorms on campus that all employees are required to live in.

next, let's look at the health care benefit provided. arguably, this is the biggest benefit companies pay out for their employees. google definitely has a program that is on par with other companies in the industry; but since when does a company like google settle for being on par? microsoft's health care benefits shame google's relatively meager offering. for those of you who don't know, microsoft pays 100% of employees' premiums for a world-class PPO. everything you can possibly imagine is covered. the program has no co-pays on anything (including prescription drugs); you can self-refer to any doctor in the blue cross blue shield network, which pretty much means any licensed professional; and you can even get up to 24 hour-long massage sessions per year.

lastly, google demands employees that are 90th percentile material, so what's with the 50th percentile compensation? the packages would've been decent when the company was pre-IPO, but let's be honest here... a stock option with a strike price of $188 just doesn't have the same value as the ones of yesteryear. even microsoft adjusted their base salaries to 66th percentile years ago when it was clear that their stock options weren't as much a part of the total compensation package as it used to be. for a post-IPO company like google, it only seems fair that they adjust things accordingly.

all in all, despite these rants, i still chose to come to google. the work environment, projects and risk/reward equation were all more enticing than up in redmond. but just like when you look for apartments in SF, no option is ever perfect. " (from here, mirrored at Bloglines)

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(1 reply) #1 idoia on 10 Feb 2005 - 13:11
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This is one of the first peripheral pieces of gear to emerge for Longhorn, and it sounds impressive; the excitement, and expectations, are building.


just curious ,do you really get SO excited with these kind of things?
#1.1 bush on 10 Feb 2005 - 13:21
umm, no, not really, no. it would then look like a big mobile phone with a tiny little screen on it
but let's keep guessing that this is only the first step and that something bigger will only follow
(2 replies) #2 chi chi rodriguez on 10 Feb 2005 - 13:11
I read about this earlier this year and saw some photos. Very ingenius and original idea.
#2.1 ChiefWahoo on 10 Feb 2005 - 14:57
I am curious to see those pictures, are they available somewhere on the net?
#2.2 y_notm on 10 Feb 2005 - 15:30
#3 D0ktr_EvL on 10 Feb 2005 - 13:26
I already have a mobile phone which plays MP3's, has a calendar, contacts and fetches email. Have we come full circle? Soon we'll be walking around with mobile bricks again like the goold old days
(3 replies) #4 Jugalator on 10 Feb 2005 - 13:49
"Powered off the laptop's battery"?

Who would like to have a calendar showing on the laptop when it's off, given it would drain battery power?

I don't really get it..
Won't you just have to recharge it more often as a price for this feature?
Maybe a simple calendar doesn't drain too quickly though, but having a media player? :o
#4.1 PR. on 10 Feb 2005 - 14:06
I presume it will work much like the Lookup program on the HP TabletPCs, you press a button on the machine while it is off and it loads a basic webbrowser with all your stored contacts/calendar appointments, you can use it for quick reference instead of having to resume the computer and login and check it etc etc.
#4.2 shao on 10 Feb 2005 - 14:08
considering this technology is essentially similar to the spot phones, and in earlier reports the display would possibly be like a larger spot type display on the closed lid of the laptop. now, as far as i'm aware, a small screen like that is hardly a massive drain on the batter. it's not like it's keeping the entire laptop powered.
#4.3 sphbecker on 11 Feb 2005 - 15:07
I think that is the point. This screen uses much less power, so you can look at it at a glance without having to bring the entire system up and drain power.

As far as how much power it will use, I'm guessing its larger screen will need about 3-4 times the amount of power a cell phone needs to keep its screen running all the time. Seeing as how laptop batteries have about 40-80 times the capacity of a cell battery, I'm not concerned about power drain. If you are, I'm sure there will be a way to turn it off.

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#5 ichi on 10 Feb 2005 - 13:50
What's the difference between this SPOT tech applied to PCs and stuff like Karamba and gDesklets?

*edit: huh ok, it's supposed to show info on a screen outside the laptop, right? hmm weird.
#6 cork1958 on 10 Feb 2005 - 13:58
Nope! Doesn't blow my hair back at all.
#7 mac15 on 10 Feb 2005 - 14:04
I don't see a huge point, I'd rather pop open the laptop lid and check my applications then. Like some have said I have a phone than can check everything I need it too (mail, IMs and web). To me this is wasted development time
#8 roxics on 10 Feb 2005 - 14:11
Wow this sounds incredibly silly. Is there any real point to having it? Just another display to use up battery power for features which probably won't do anyone any good.

I guess you have to give them credit for trying something new. They should probably take polls on this kind of stuff first before trying to make it industry standard though.
(1 reply) #9 Dazza on 10 Feb 2005 - 14:34
is it just me or does this sound like a cheap microsoft attempt (and probably failure) at emulating programs like samurize, desktopX etc?
#9.1 stubear on 11 Feb 2005 - 02:39
It's just you. You didn't even have to read the article or the summary, you just needed to look at the picture linked above. You will notice it says, "Quick access to information while your laptop is closed and/or off". Sounds to me like this doesn't run in Windows. On even further examination you will notice an illustration of a likely display configuration on the outside of the laptop or tablet pc. It's fairly clear that this is meant to be a LCD display that is only customizable in so far as what information is displayed, not how it is displayed graphically.

To the other morons who keep claiming this will drain the battery, this is really nothing more than leaving your cell phone on standby. It even sounds like this could use less battery power than that. Either way, my older Ericsson phone can stay on standby for over a week before it needs to be recharged. You will need to plug-in the laptop to recharge due to normal use long before drains battery power due to this new auxiliary display.

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(1 reply) #10 rajputwarrior on 10 Feb 2005 - 14:42
they are excited as when a twelve year year old sees his first boobs, but older and more mature people are like meh
#10.1 Nissel on 10 Feb 2005 - 15:52
boobs where? WHERE????
(2 replies) #11 AsciiSmoke on 10 Feb 2005 - 15:58
Having a secondary processor built for these functions coul work well in desktops too. Imagine this;

Select from a bunch of mp3s from your harddisk - cache them to ram - and listen to MP3s all without having to waste time waiting for windows to boot, power your monitor or hdd (after caching) etc.

Obviously some interesting changes in case designs and bus technology would have to take place but wouldn't it be great to only power what your using rather than have your pc running at full tilt for everything, whether it needs to or not?
#11.1 StevoFC on 10 Feb 2005 - 16:22
my laptop functions as a cd player and dvd player already without booting into windows, and it has a small screen on the front that says what song is playing and stuff.
#11.2 sphbecker on 11 Feb 2005 - 15:10
That is the idea they are expanding on, right now you can access your Outlook information from this little screen can you?
#12 devinlamothe on 10 Feb 2005 - 16:00
Wow this is pretty cool. The possibilities with this kind of technology are pretty limitless... although, the more you think about it, it's just becoming a second computer attatched to another computer that doesn't have to boot up, and will only perform specific tasks. :p
#13 imtoomuch on 10 Feb 2005 - 17:06
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he company plans to offer a system based around the SPOT technology used in Microsoft's line of watches. Users will be able to see mobile phone style displays on the top of laptops containing various pieces of information; Microsoft foresee the screens showing the time, appointment and email information as well as common information like the laptop's status. At a demo during the event, Microsoft showed off a demo with calendar, contacts, tasks, inbox and media player working.


That's awesome! I'm sure some lame "union" or company will sue them for that too for hurting the sales or wrist watches or some bull.
#14 thenut on 10 Feb 2005 - 17:51
reminds me of an article I read about in a laptop magazine months and months ago... it talked about a new feature being developed by intel that added an external display on laptops to display all sorts of information
#15 StuRReaL on 10 Feb 2005 - 18:10
its what i'd call a moderatly useful feature, but isn't redundant as most phones can do that anyway ah well microsoft and other companies alway like to add extra features that the majority of us wouldn't have a use for.
#16 jamima69z on 10 Feb 2005 - 21:02
how's about a battery that lasts more than 3-4 hours? or cutting the weight/frame of the laptop down so that it's truly portable? or any useful feature besides these dumb gimmicks? please????
#17 GRex on 10 Feb 2005 - 21:41
Pretty cool toy. Notice the word "Toy". This is good for all those early adopters. Most people probably wont care.
#18 darthfader on 10 Feb 2005 - 22:11
boooooring
#19 ThePDW on 11 Feb 2005 - 02:06
This is bold?
#20 lunamonkey on 11 Feb 2005 - 10:53
What about privacy? I assume you can turn these off from the outside, and have a password or something?
(1 reply) #21 Chicane-UK on 11 Feb 2005 - 13:27
I'm not exactly blown away to be honest..
#21.1 EduardValencia on 11 Feb 2005 - 15:00
true,but remember this feature won't be used by the great mayority,just for some techies that like this stuff,this is aimed to a high tech market.

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