Intel 660 Extreme Edition 64bit Pentium 4 Processor Review
Posted by Daniel Fleshbourne on 01 March 2005 - 10:35 · 22 comments & 3105 views
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#1 Posted by _Dom_ on 01 Mar 2005 - 10:56
- i didnt think you could use an intel 64bit processer with many things
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#1.1 Posted by SquareSoft0 on 01 Mar 2005 - 10:59
- Why is that?
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#1.2 Posted by Hurmoth on 01 Mar 2005 - 13:13
- I think he is thinking of the Itanium Processor. The reason you can't use much with that is because that is a true 64-bit chip with no 32-bit support whatsoever. Microsoft dropped support for the Itanium-based chip because there isn't a market for pure 64-bit yet, and the fact that there are very few 64-bit applications out there right now is another reason not to go with the Itanium, but rather the AMD Opteron (because it supports 32-bit OSes).
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#1.3 Posted by bucko on 01 Mar 2005 - 13:28
- Wait until XP 64 comes out then upgrade your ram to 4GB+
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#1.5 Posted by SquareSoft0 on 01 Mar 2005 - 22:33
- The server market made a complete transition to x64, most people won't have any repercussions for going pure 64-bit. By a complete transition I mean it is now entirely feasible to run an x64 server, whereas the desktop market needs an x86-64 transition. I personally would like to not make a slow move, I'll most likely wait until the desktop market is ready and move up to an x64 chip when the market has matured.
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#2 Posted by castor_troyuk on 01 Mar 2005 - 11:08
- interesting,.
Wonder why it wasn't compared to an AMD64, it does seem that the site lacks any AMD reviews, pssibly why they had no comparison
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#3 Posted by TruckWEB on 01 Mar 2005 - 11:56
- Funny thing is... This new Extreme CPU performs only a little bit faster (sometime slower) than the old Extreme CPU (3.4Ghz).
What's wrong with Intel pushing out "new" CPU that are no faster than their older one...?? Time for a re-design? I hope that Dual-Core will be better.
Just look at the speed of mobile Pentium, they are as fast as new P4 CPU....
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#4 Posted by Nelsinho on 01 Mar 2005 - 12:08
- excellent article, but I still stick with socket 478 without doubt
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#5 Posted by StuRReaL on 01 Mar 2005 - 12:30
- AMD 64 for me then
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#5.1 Posted by SquareSoft0 on 01 Mar 2005 - 12:52
- In most cases someone stating their product of choice is somehow relevant to the article, yours isn't one of them.
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#6 Posted by hardgiant on 01 Mar 2005 - 13:16
- That site is completely useless and seemed like nothing more then a ad for the new Pentium 4.
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#7 Posted by Fagutish on 01 Mar 2005 - 13:25
- yeah, a very dissapointing site. i wish someone good would pick up and review these chips like Tom's or Hard
Oh wait, they did
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#8 Posted by bucko on 01 Mar 2005 - 13:27
- http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20050221/index.html
Better review there, glad I got an AMD64 they win in all the game tests.
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#9 Posted by obake on 01 Mar 2005 - 14:55
- Wow, what a crappy review. The whole point was to test the 64-bit power of these processors, but nearly all the tests were either 32-bit or 32-bit legacy. If the 64-bit drivers and software simply aren't available yet, then they should have delayed a full review until they were made available.
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#10 Posted by maudit on 01 Mar 2005 - 16:13
QUOTE We would like to call the recent Pentium 4 a "face-lifted Prescott," since all the actions Intel took help to improve an existing product, but don't change its fundamentals. And given this, we must wonder why Intel is asking the user to pay so much more for features that cannot be called truly innovative. The new models really offer differ from the 500 series in offering SpeedStep and the larger cache. Why does this have to cost between 25 and 45% more?
from tomshardware
I agree, INTEL is not really innovating they shouldn't charge as it were a processor upgrade ( eg. p4 to p5), as It's the same processor with some candy strapped on to it... I hope AMD is taking notes on what NOT to do-
#10.1 Posted by SquareSoft0 on 01 Mar 2005 - 22:35
- You mean when AMD did the exact same thing, slapping on x86-64 to their Athlon XPs?
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#10.2 Posted by Coolme on 01 Mar 2005 - 22:53
- They also slapped on an on-die memory controller and utilized HTT, which is innovative. (When was the last time that changes in this magnitude happened?)
Oh yeah, the latency of the L2 cache in Intel's 6XX series procesors have also increased by a lot. -
#10.3 Posted by SquareSoft0 on 02 Mar 2005 - 00:28
- An on-die memory controller is an advantage, but only for smaller blocks of memory. That feature doesn't gain too much "real world" performance, but it most definitely doesn't hurt to have it. "Slapping on" isn't a bad thing either, seeing as how Intel "slapped on" the EM64T protocol and will "slap on" two dies for their dual-core CPUs. All-around the 6xx series is very innovative, warranting the price I think.
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#11 Posted by abysal on 01 Mar 2005 - 17:32
- Yep as many of you have pointed out, that review was a waste of time. It does a good job of comparing previous P4 CPUs but It doesn't really give you an idea of how the new CPU stacks up to the AMD competition.
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#12 Posted by dhitb on 02 Mar 2005 - 12:19
- *ahem* it's called Emergency Edition
"With Windows x64 Edition nearing its' full release date, Intel has released their 64bit capable 6XX and Extreme Edition line of processors to tackle the new 64bit challenge and the nice thing is if you own a Intel® 925XE Express or i915 based chipset motherboard, 64bit computing is only a processor and a BIOS flash upgrade away. Let's see what the new line of Intel processors have to offer...."
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