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Novell Announces Enhancements for GroupWise

Hurmoth   on 30 March 2005 - 15:35 · 27 comments & 5792 views

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Novell announced an extended support policy, new product features and a no-cost, pre-bundled SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server for the next version of Novell GroupWise, due later this year.

“GroupWise is head and shoulders above Microsoft Exchange, and we are very pleased with Novell's ongoing commitment,” said Steve O’Brien, director of IT operations for Jefferson County, Colo. “My peers describe problems with their Exchange e-mail systems that I don't even think about. Because we implemented Linux and open source solutions from Novell, we are able to reduce our hardware costs by 50 percent, software costs by 30 percent and administration cost by 30 percent – all while improving uptime and overall security."

Novell recently announced its long-term plans for GroupWise. The next release, codenamed “Sequoia,” is planned to be released in the summer of 2005, followed by “Aspen” and “Cedar,” targeted for fall 2006 and spring 2008, respectively. Planned enhancements for Sequoia include enhanced client code for Windows*, Macintosh*, Linux* and the Web, support for Microsoft Outlook*, and new SOAP/XML interfaces to support integration of GroupWise with services-oriented application architectures. An additional facet of Novell's long-term commitment to GroupWise is Novell's extension of the support window for GroupWise through 2015.

Novell will also pre-bundle SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server with GroupWise Sequoia at no additional cost. Long known for its security benefits, SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server 9 recently achieved Enterprise Assurance Level 4+ under the Common Criteria for Information Security Evaluation's Controlled Access Protection Profile, also referred to as CAPP/EAL4+. The increased security and reliability of SUSE LINUX enable customers to deploy GroupWise with even more confidence.

View: Novell Press Release
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(5 replies) #1 threedaysdwn on 30 Mar 2005 - 15:38
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GroupWise is head and shoulders above Microsoft Exchange,


Someone has an interesting sense of humor.
#1.1 dan on 30 Mar 2005 - 16:09
Damn right. GroupWise is a truely horrible program. If it were a dog they would put it down
#1.2 Hurmoth on 30 Mar 2005 - 16:49
I actually perfer Novell's GroupWise over Outlook, Thunderbird, etc.
#1.3 SVT on 30 Mar 2005 - 17:55
Exchange and GroupWise both suck. The only people who would say otherwise are fanboys.
#1.4 neufuse on 30 Mar 2005 - 20:39
right SVT.... Exchange is actually a very nice server, it does POP3, IMAP, MAPI, calendaring, scheduling, journaling, has a web client to do all the features of outlook on the web, to say it sucks is ludicris.. groupwise is a piece of junk based on the way it was last time I used it... What would you rather us use in the corporate world for all those tasks all in one spot all integrated without seams? Would you rather us use Lotus Notes and Domino? now there is a piece of crap there...

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#1.5 threedaysdwn on 30 Mar 2005 - 22:04
SVT doesn't have a clue.

Exchange also has the best support for mobile devices (using Outlook Mobile Acces, Server ActiveSync, SMS update notifications, GOODLink, Blackberry, etc).
#2 rogerroger on 30 Mar 2005 - 16:45
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GroupWise is head and shoulders above Microsoft Exchange


Maybe above my knees, but still below my a$$. I supposed you have to say something about your product. Give it up Novell.
(5 replies) #3 waxman830 on 30 Mar 2005 - 17:05
Novell, are they still around???
#3.1 Hurmoth on 30 Mar 2005 - 17:18
Have you ever heard of SUSE Linux? Yes, well they own it and it is a fairly big Linux distro Novell is big and probably going to get bigger because of Linux.
#3.2 waxman830 on 30 Mar 2005 - 20:03
Yeah I have heard of SUSE and all the other million "distros" so whoopty freaking doo. Novell is small and getting smaller. Linux is free, why would I want to pay Novell for it? Red hat will have a new flavor next month and so will suse and this one and that one and on and on. Novell had to try to do something before they went TU, but it's too little too late. They need to hang it up and be done with it, why prolong the inevitable???? ROCK ON!!!
#3.3 Hurmoth on 30 Mar 2005 - 20:28
You don't have to pay Novell for SUSE Linux You can download SUSE Linux from one of many mirrors listed on Novell's website. When you do pay, you're paying for the support and so forth, the same thing that Red Hat is doing. I don't believe Novell is getting smaller and smaller, I believe that in the last year or two, Novell has turned them around and could become a competitor with Microsoft and Red Hat.
#3.4 threedaysdwn on 30 Mar 2005 - 20:40
Novell WAS all but dead. But then they managed to buy up SUSE, and have been contributing to some fairly important OSS projects like Mono.


But GroupWise? Come on... Unless they're rewriting the entire thing from scratch to not suck, they can't be serious.
#3.5 Hurmoth on 04 Apr 2005 - 14:59
From what I understand, they have completely redone the entire code for GroupWise 7. Sort of like how Micorsoft is going to do with the "Longhorn Wave", Novell is doing with the "Linux Wave". ZENworks 7, NetWare 7 and GroupWise 7 are going being built from the ground up!

This is an interesting read: http://www.novell.com/collateral/4820965/4820965.pdf

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(6 replies) #4 KenLin on 30 Mar 2005 - 17:45
I didn't realize we had so many experienced Groupwise and Exchange admins here at neowin
#4.1 Hurmoth on 30 Mar 2005 - 17:58
I am a GroupWise Administrator at work
#4.2 trance on 30 Mar 2005 - 18:41
I'm a certified Groupwise Engineer and certified Exchange Engineer... Exchange is soooooo much simpler and far more robust to use than groupwise... And i have used all versions... Even Exchange 5.5 is better than groupwise 6.
#4.3 Hurmoth on 30 Mar 2005 - 19:00
I'm working on getting certified in GroupWise, but have had very little experience with the administering part of Exchange. GroupWise is limited to what it can currently do, I'll give you that, but from what I've read and seen GroupWise 7 will be an absolute overhaul from what is currently available. I would still rather use Novell products then Microsoft products!
#4.4 threedaysdwn on 30 Mar 2005 - 20:42
But, historically, Novell has made nothing but crap. Microsoft has made some bad products for sure, but they've made a lot of great ones. Exchange 2003 is a good example.

And yes, I'm an Exchange admin, albeit on fairly small projects.
#4.5 Ghost96 on 31 Mar 2005 - 03:06
I dunno...There's things I like about both products. I manage both of them and can give pros and cons on both of them. Anyone who manages both can surely do the same. I mean...Exchange? I can easily mention viruses that target Exchange services. Not once in my life have I ever had to go into a customer site and rid viruses on a Novell server or a GroupWise server to get it running again.

And then GroupWise lacks some of the easiest end user abilities like manual backups that are easy to restore. Yeah yeah, GroupWise can be backed up, it's just far less intuitive than Exchange mailboxes in my opinion.

GroupWise Client installs seem to need far more reinstalls than Outlook clients.

I still would not say that Novell has made nothing but crap. I still laugh at all the Windows Server "gurus" and "Engineers" out there that I've followed after school districts have kicked them out because they couldn't implement a cost effective solution to manage schools with. I've used Novell in schools for years to satisfy the customer's needs and have never looked back. Novell servers are faster (proven fact) than Windows servers, and eDirectory trumps Active Directory any day of the week. There's no comparison - it's not even close!

Plus, I sure don't see too many Windows servers stay up this long without reboots. Novell - fast, stable, reliable and secure for those who know how to implement it correctly.

#4.6 hornetfighter on 31 Mar 2005 - 09:30
the big problem is that the Groupwise client is so vastly inferior to Outlook. The functionality server-side of the two is similar and Groupwise has it over Exchange in that there is no RPC dependancies - it is fully TCP.
(2 replies) #5 g33kb0y on 30 Mar 2005 - 18:51
I do not administer Exchange nor Groupwise, so I can't really comment one which is better. I'm farily limited to my experience with *shiver* Lotus Notes. The new version of Groupwise (Sequoia) looks pretty cool from the screenshots I've seen.

Sequoia Screenies
#5.1 threedaysdwn on 30 Mar 2005 - 20:44
Making the client look like Outlook isn't going to make their server product any better.
#5.2 Hurmoth on 04 Apr 2005 - 15:05
GroupWise has less security wholes then Microsoft's Exchange. GroupWise wins hands down just because of that right there!
#6 Ianmac45 on 30 Mar 2005 - 20:40
my school just got groupwiuse 6.5
(1 reply) #7 Chicane-UK on 30 Mar 2005 - 21:43
I'm normally the first to big up competition to Microsoft, but i'm sorry Novell - Groupwise is a truely appalling product. My current employer has had enormous problems with Groupwise regarding stability, and how it scales.. from everything I have seen and discussed with their techs it is an appalling product that is only really suited to very small / back office type environments (like 50 staff) - FORGET enterprise level!

I for one will be glad to see the back of it.. I used to admin MS Exchange 2003 for a while before I changed jobs, and was glad to say it was probably one of the best MS products I had ever used, along with Active Directory 2003!
#7.1 Chicane-UK on 30 Mar 2005 - 21:44
Huh? I only just posted, so how did my comment go to the top?!
#8 Hurmoth on 05 Apr 2005 - 16:09
One thing I just thought about that I wish Novell would do with GroupWise is intergrated Notify into GroupWise and allow us to minimize GroupWise into the system tray.

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