Apple has announced the date when it's new version of OS X - Tiger, v10.4 - will go on sale. Friday, April 29, at 6pm is the magic time - $129 or £89, the price. As Neowin has previously reported, among the new features will be an updated Mail client and iCal app. Apple also says it will include the new version 7 of Quicktime, and native 64-bit application support. Preorders are now being accepted.
Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO, said: "Mac OS X Tiger is the most innovative and secure desktop operating system ever created. Tiger's groundbreaking new features like Spotlight and Dashboard will change the way people use their computers, and drive our competitors nuts trying to copy them."
Spotlight is Apple's new search system, which it touts as being a "new, lightning-fast way for users to find virtually anything stored on their Mac". Dashboard, meanwhile, allows users to put widgets on their desktop for anything from the weather to tracking flights. Also new, an updated iChat, Automator - which can make repetitive tasks easier - and RSS reader support in the Safari browser.
In other news, the BBC reports that a group of US newspapers, along with the AP news agency, are to back bloggers being sued by Apple for leaking details of the new features. A court had ruled they should be forced to reveal the sources of the information - Dave Tomlin, assistant general counsel for AP, said the case had potential implications journalists of all kinds. "For us, this case is about whether the First Amendment protects journalists from being turned into informants for the government, the courts or anybody else who wants to use them that way," Mr Tomlin said.
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Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO, said: "Mac OS X Tiger is the most innovative and secure desktop operating system ever created. Tiger's groundbreaking new features like Spotlight and Dashboard will change the way people use their computers, and drive our competitors nuts trying to copy them."
Spotlight is Apple's new search system, which it touts as being a "new, lightning-fast way for users to find virtually anything stored on their Mac". Dashboard, meanwhile, allows users to put widgets on their desktop for anything from the weather to tracking flights. Also new, an updated iChat, Automator - which can make repetitive tasks easier - and RSS reader support in the Safari browser.
In other news, the BBC reports that a group of US newspapers, along with the AP news agency, are to back bloggers being sued by Apple for leaking details of the new features. A court had ruled they should be forced to reveal the sources of the information - Dave Tomlin, assistant general counsel for AP, said the case had potential implications journalists of all kinds. "For us, this case is about whether the First Amendment protects journalists from being turned into informants for the government, the courts or anybody else who wants to use them that way," Mr Tomlin said.
View: Apple announcement | Apple Store | Tiger info View: Neowin discussion
PS: Your dedicated Neowin writer got 10/10 on both - although the US one was a close call :)
There ya go!
EDIT: Woohoo! With my educational discount, I can get it for only $69! Hells yes!
Spotlight
Dashboard
Safari RSS
iChat AV
Mail
.Mac Sync
QuickTime 7
Automator
Fast User Switching
Exposé
What, did they integrate left-clicking into the operating system?
http://www.apple.com/macosx/newfeatures/ne...ewfeatures.html
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Apple mice, not wotever other mouse you choose to use.
From WWDC2004: "Redmond, start your photocopiers"
And what Microsoft is working on is a lot more complex than what is being released in Tiger. Otherwise Microsoft could have released Longhorn years ago? Did you notice how it only took them a month or so to create a desktop search tool? If they just wanted to do what Tiger does it could have been released already. (This should shed light on why Longhorn is taking so long.)
Its obvious to anyone that Apple decided to include most of these features to try to one-up Longhorn and appear as if they were delivering what Longhorn did before it was released, since Longhorn would take so long. "Redmond, start your copiers" is just Apple BS, and anyone whether a Mac or PC fan, who knows anything, realizes this.
(By the way Longhorn will be released into beta in about a month I think)
Tiger seems to be to OS X what XP was to 2000, whereas Longhorn will be to XP what OS X was to OS 9. An incremental upgrade is nothing to get all hot and bothered over. I'm sure Tiger will be an outstanding OS...but OS X *already was* an outstanding OS. As is XP. Both serve their purposes nicely. But I don't think that Tiger will appear as some sort of revolutionary evolution in OS X to the -casual user-. Changes in OS X, as it evolves, are more subtle than the changes between Windows releases. But no less profound. However, for Jobs to make cute little comments about "their competitors" copying them, when it seems as though Apple didn't announce any of their additions to OS X until after "their competitors" had announced something similiar planned for their next-generation OS. Seems a tad shady to me.
I'd have far more respect for Apple if Jobs could just learn to keep his mouth shut, at least about things not pertaining to the iPod, because that's the only market in which they have ever clearly dominated. Consumers that matter speak with their wallet, not on fanboy websites, and the truth speaks for itself.
Where do people keep coming up with this BS that Longhorn is going to be this massive shift in code base from XP? It is still based on the NT kernel (the Windows Server 2003 kernel to be precise). XP was to Windows 98 or ME what OS X was to OS 9 (a complete shift in the code base of the OS).
I don't recall mentioning anything about the codebase at all in my initial post. Quit assuming thats what I meant and being so defensive.
I'm not trying to be an MS fanboy, I stand by what I said. If Microsoft just wanted to release something like OS X Tiger they could have done so already. Not just because its easy to create something like Spotlight compared to WinFS, but because Avalon, the graphics system is already working and just being tested and will be released for XP. If matching Tiger was Microsoft's goal they could have had it done by now. There's a lot more in Longhorn than people realize, and just as Microsoft is having to catch up with Apple now, I will bet Apple will have to catch up with Microsoft by then.
(ps Longhorn beta soon)
And the winner of most ignorant comment of the day is... joseph-!!!
Longhorn = Windows NT 6.0
You said, and I quote:
Which does imply a complete code base shift.
If Apple sticks to their current release cycle, it's possible that they will have 10.5 out around the same time as Longhorn is released.
Well, Apple seems to be calling this 10.4, so I guess that is exactly right, then.
The difference between 10.3 and 10.4 is exactly analogous to the difference between Windows 2000 and Windows XP (NT versions 5.0 and 5.1, respectively).
Sorry if that seemed "ignorant"...forgot that I have to be as specific as possible to avoid childish insults on this site. Won't happen again.
And that analogy makes ZERO sense to the user. Nobody cares how much effort was put into something, all they want is better performance & features.
For the first time, I agree with SVT (post number 1.10)
Which is of concern to the user. What part of that doesn't make sense? I'm sorry you don't quite comprehend what is meant by effort, but I fail to see how I'm the only ignorant one in this thread.
Because Microsoft announced these features long (very long) before Apple did...
Umm, Apple applied for the Spotlight patent back in Jan of 2000. Long before Longhorn was even announced.
Apple also said before they were trying to figure out how to do this search and realized they had the technology in iTunes, where they adapted it from, just in time for Tiger development.
My contention is mainly that Apple put all of these features in the OS X Tiger release in response to Longhorn buzz, --- they weren't going to put them in anyway regardless of what Microsoft did. The idea of a search system like that had been around for years, they could have implemented it sooner. I think they did it in Tiger as a response. I'm not saying Apple was 'copying'. And regardless, saying Microsoft will be copying Tiger with Longhorn (which Jobs suggested) is a BS statement.
The fact is, despite MS's claims, they never got Cairo to work. They began talking about Blackcomb in 2000 (they claimed then they had all the pieces in Cairo...), then mysteriously Blackcomb slips in 2003 to 2006 and Longhorn was supposed to be an interim release, then Longhorn becomes the major release and was due in late 2004/early 2005, now it's due at the very end of 2006 withOUT WinFS... Can you really claim MS HAS something to copy??? I don't think you can. Let's just wait and see if they hit their BETA1 release date.
I made two claims, one that I think Spotlight in the Tiger release was a response to Longhorn buzz, and that WinFS promises more than just what Spotlight is delivering. Even though WinFS will not be shipped with Longhorn, its been revealed that Microsoft will include a desktop search ala Spotlight in Longhorn to make up for it.
And I think Microsoft means it when they say WinFS will be released. People have had access to Longhorn and reports have been all of the 'pillars' except WinFS were virtually done in basic development, and that WinFS has progressed a lot. So I don't know what deadlines they'll meet, but I believe that everything will come out like Microsoft has said.
anyone know if best buy will sell it?
i got about 60 bucks of gift certs to use up
the most important software produkt this year and the years to come .
just ordered my copy of tiger . after getting my mini and new ipod ,and enjoying panther ,i'm only waiting for the new g5 to make the complete switch .
yeah ...
I suspect playback will be around NAB of this year. I suspect Apple will not allow encoding on the PC platform. I don't think they allowed for all of the Mp4 encoding options on the PC that they did on the Mac.
NAB is next week. The Win version will not be released prior to the Mac version.
Why? QT for Mac and QT for the PC have almost always been almost 100% feature compatible. The PC version will have the same options.
Wrong. QT (Free) and QT Pro have different encoding options. There are no significant feature differences between QT 6 for the PC and Mac. This isn't WMP.
I would expect the PC version to become available simultaneously to a general release of Tiger... Maybe a little later... (It's unclear if you will be able to upgrade to QT7 without a Tiger upgrade... If so, simultaneously.) Or... possibly... with a new iTunes update. (Notice the absence of a new iTunes version from Tiger and iLife info... iTunes will be upgraded shortly after the release of QT7, I expect.)
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Compare the great cats: Tiger vs. Panther vs. Jaguar
Running Mac OS X v10.3 Panther or Mac OS X v10.2 Jaguar? Don’t have a "cow" — see how Tiger will take your Mac to the next level.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/upgrade/
Well, actually 10.4.1 will be awesome. (heh)
Anyway, if you pre-order yours from Amazon.com, you can get a $35 mail-in rebate, thus making Tiger a $94 expense.