Students using the new superfast Internet2 connections at many US colleges to share music and films are being targeted by the RIAA in its latest blitz on piracy. More than 1.5 million files were being shared on the network, according to the association - terabytes of data said to be equivalent to an entire video-rental store.
The network is still mainly intended for research, but students connected up realised the benefits of being able to download songs in 20 seconds and films in five minutes. However, the RIAA was less impresed at this use for it and will today file lawsuits against 405 students at 18 collegs across the US.
Cary Sherman, RIAA President, said: "We cannot let this high-speed network become a zone of lawlessness where the normal rules don’t apply. By taking this initial action, we are putting students and administrators everywhere on notice that there are consequences for unlawful uses of this special network."
Much of the sharing goes through a DirectConnect-style program, i2hub. A service spokesman said yesterday: "The i2hub organization does not condone activities and actions that breach the rights of copyright owners. Our companies are focused on bringing together students and connecting them in ways never before achieved."
View: RIAA announcement | RIAA homepage
View: i2hub | Internet2
The network is still mainly intended for research, but students connected up realised the benefits of being able to download songs in 20 seconds and films in five minutes. However, the RIAA was less impresed at this use for it and will today file lawsuits against 405 students at 18 collegs across the US.
Cary Sherman, RIAA President, said: "We cannot let this high-speed network become a zone of lawlessness where the normal rules don’t apply. By taking this initial action, we are putting students and administrators everywhere on notice that there are consequences for unlawful uses of this special network."
Much of the sharing goes through a DirectConnect-style program, i2hub. A service spokesman said yesterday: "The i2hub organization does not condone activities and actions that breach the rights of copyright owners. Our companies are focused on bringing together students and connecting them in ways never before achieved."
View: RIAA announcement | RIAA homepage View: i2hub | Internet2
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I think that just about sums it up for me.
yeah people don't buy your crap anymore and you lose money either way. except your way you probably lose the customer for good.
The kind of action they are doing is just plain pissing them all off. It's not helping them build their business, but rather the exact opposite. They're basically burning the bridges that they're building.
When tape recording machines came out, RIAA sued to stop them because people could make copies of the tapes and distribute them. They lost the case.
Then Betamax came out with recorders, again RIAA/MPAA sued to stop them, again they lost the case.
CD Recorders came out, same old story, they lost the case.
Now we have computers that can make digitized copies in just about anything and here we go again.
Three times they tried to stop techonology and failed. They'll fail again with computers.
Garage bands are becoming more popular now and people are downloading and donating money via Paypal for their work. Homemade movies, however low in quality, but over time as they get better, will replace Hollywood made movies.
Homemade Star Trek episodes and Star Wars episodes are popping up all over the 'net. Besides low quality graphics, (i.e. CGI, special effects, etc.), great storylines are making up for them and people are enjoying them.
Take a good example of two Star Trek sites that are homemade and they're great...
Star Trek New Voyages
Starship Exeter
Pretty darn good stuff and they're getting donations to help them become better.
I think you're talking about streaming, and getting enough of the song buffered to stream in 2 seconds isn't at all unusual for a decent connection, but dowloading a song (let's say average 5MB) in 2 seconds would require that you get a sustained 20mbit transfer (I'll assume that you're not including connection establishing time in there), plus there'd have to be enough to feed that to you at the other end.
With the Internet2, they're likely talking about downloading 1.5GB of movie or so in 5 minutes, maybe even a 4.3GB DVD. That's pretty decent, I know I'd like that in my home.
(Since sales are increasing they are not backed into a corner)
What do you do to insanly crazed animals roaming around freely?
You kill them.
Die RIAA.
GO RIAA!
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Music is continually being price-hiked, and the price-fixed. The RIAA, and MPAA all want you to watch and listen to what they want you to listen to.
I take a look through my Creative Zen Touch (£160 of my own money I used to paid for it, take that), and I see very few songs that come from RIAA-Covered groups. Most of my music is either Homemade, Remixes, Not covered by the RIAA (OST, for example), or Japanese in origin (Such as Final Fantasy).
Linkin Park's 'In The End', and Vanessa Carlton's 'One Thousand Mile' are the only two songs I have that the RIAA would cover. Songs I wouldn't mind losing
If there is a band who I truely enjoy the work of, I will buy their CD. Linkin Park was a good example. I downloaded over half their album, liked what I heard and bought their CD.
And just to make you happy Scooby: I had 3,800 songs on my portable hard-drive (about a quarter of them were legal) and recently it died.
The real reason is becuase the RIAA and the music industry has been found guilty of Price Fixing. That's right, they rigged the price of CDs to make them more expensive. Something that costs 1/4 of the price of a cassette was being priced 30% more in stores. Meanwhile, the artists were not getting a dime more.
Most of the time, Musicians make their money through touring because there is no money in a record deal anyway.
I don't see how they are taking money out of YOUR Pockets if you willingly pay their prices. Like I said, everyone is just mad because they think they overcharge for the product. Music isn't food. You don't NEED it to live. Besides, there is plenty of good cheaper music that no one knows about. Funny thing is, it's much better than the most of the popular dribble the industry keeps feeding everyone.
Robin Hood. Fine, he only had one tail, but the principle is the same. By all means, buy music directly from the artists... but don't go out into the High Street to buy it.
Jstphish, how's the weather in RIAA-land? Cos you sure as hell don't live in the same world as the rest of us. Firstly, let's look at your inane "STEALING1111oneone" comment - you're making a copy, a digital replica - you are not removing goods, nor a source of income from a single soul, not the RIAA, not the artist. If I wasn't going to buy 2000 CDs then downloading 2000 tracks took money from no one. It wasn't going to be theirs. I'm not denying artists their dues, because they would have received no money had I not downloaded the song. I choose to support the artists I listen to alot - and I concur with Cryptic_Night - I too heard Linkin Park online, loved them, have since bought all of their albums and attended their concerts. That's how it should work.
You stupid troll.
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and the excuses start....
PS. Full Sail is a good school, but in no way provides you with a career. It merely gives you the tools. When I was a producer (video and DVD), I rejected almost every full sail applicant that came through my door. Many of them felt like because they paid so much money for school, they did not have to start at the ground level like everyone else.
Then again, that was a few years ago; the last time I stepped in any music store. Where is that pirate smiley? argh!
1 is for the public.
1 is this internet 2, where you can get about 101 Gb/s (equivalent to 101,000 Mb/s).
the last 2 are for the government/military.
[EDIT] Aparently 'Quick Reply' beat me to my point!
Internet2 is for researchers only. I think the administrators of the network need to put a lock on copyright material being shared across the network as that is not what the network is intended for at all.
That being said, I think RIAA should stay focused on this Internet. Maybe they are going after Internet2 because it is a smaller network and easier for them to figure out who is who.
I don't do P2P for music or movies. I get my music from iTMs (i tried it, and now i'm hooked), Music Stores, and friends. I just go rent movies. It only costs a couple of bucks to rent something, and I rarely want to see the same movie twice.
However... what about the fact that a vast majority of the CD's you purchase these days fail to work on your PC or laptop?? It's the RIAA who is doing this, and justifiably, people are pi**ed off.
If I was to buy an album tomorrow, I would expect it to work on any medium that supports CD's and the like. Not what THEY CHOOSE
At the end of the day they will only be happy when the time comes where we can ONLY rent the music. It's sickening.
The UK is paying more for CD's than any other country in the world. Do we get better track listings? Extra tracks? Ok, how about artwork? NO. We just like being ripped off, and the worst thing is, the majority of people won't say anything about it.
If everyone in the world refused to purchase an album for a month, the RIAA would soon listen. If not, I'd suggest making it permanent and see how they sue a possible billion people.
Let me know your thoughts people
They should focus more about how to make earning and inovate instead of blame people that buy their CDS.
it's the only way to be sure.
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