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Adobe Announce Purchase of Macromedia

Mr magoo   on 18 April 2005 - 14:09 · 94 comments & 8857 views

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Adobe has today announced plans to purchase Macromedia for an all-stock transaction worth $3.4 Billion.

Macromedia shareholders will receive 69% a share of Adobe for each one they hold, which represents approx. $41.86 per share at Adobe's closing price of $60.66. The figure represents a 25% premium on Macromedia's shares, which closed at $33.45 on Friday.

The deal, approved by both boards, is being described as a way of expanding both the companies. Bruce Chizen, Adobe CEO, described the purchase as being "all about growth," and explained that he expects the two companies together to grow faster than they would apart. “By combining our powerful development, authoring and collaboration software – along with the complementary functionality of PDF and Flash – Adobe has the opportunity to bring this vision to life with an industry-defining technology platform.” Although true, the deal reflects the increased competition both companies are facing in their respective markets.

Adobe and Macromedia are respected leaders in their fields, and a tie up in the industry has long been expected by analysts. Adobe is a leader in the imaging and document management field, and Macromedia is a leader of web technologies like Flash. The deal has been welcomed by industry watchers.

Although details are somewhat limited, the two companies announced that they believed the purchase would give cost savings. However, as recent history with purchases such HP and Compaq would tell, there are serious difficulties and costs involved in integrating two companies.

Chizen will stay in his position as CEO of Adobe, whilst Stephen Elop, President and CEO of Macromedia, will become president of Worldwide Field Operations in the new combined company. The deal is expected to be completed later this year.

View: Adobe Press Release | Macromedia Press Release


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(5 replies) #1 Foo Fighter on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:12
Say goodbye to Dreamweaver, Fireworks, and Freehand. Adobe will use this opportunity to push its own inferior products.
#1.1 SiDEBURNS on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:20
I can't see Dreamweaver going. But it does look like Fireworks is going
#1.2 KenLin on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:25
they would be stupid to axe dreamweaver or flash
#1.3 fdlazarte on 18 Apr 2005 - 16:06
i hope they wont phase out Dreamweaver... im sorry to say this but GoLive sucks! Fireworks is free to go coz Photoshop rocks!
#1.4 rogerroger on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:46
Dreamweaver will be safe as Adobe will roll some product integration from GoLive into it, but Fireworks will probably be killed out right in favor of Photoshop. I would wager to say the Flash product would get rebundled into something a little bolsterous; say Flash with some functionality of both Fireworks and Photoshop and priced as a mid-range solution with many hooks into photoshop to intice customers to purchase the larger product.

Being in the industry, that is what I see happening, although anything is possible.
#1.5 Fat Tony on 19 Apr 2005 - 08:51
Oh know I hope not I fricking hate Golive and love Dreamweaver MX... I could not beleive it when I read this article this morning I was so shocked when I read this... I wonder what is going to happen to all the products...

I really do hope that Golive is not going to replace Dreaweaver...?
#2 Zeo on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:13
Ummmmm....This suxs....Big Time
(2 replies) #3 giantsnyy on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:14
um... wow.
whats gonna happen with flash?
#3.1 HawkMan on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:35
Hopefully it dies a quick death so I never again have to see a badly designed flashs ite that you can't navigate properly, it sucks you cpu into a black hole and ontop of it all it's ugly and even if you do figure out the "designers" clever navigation scheme, it takes ages to get where you need to be because of all the animations... gah

I have yet to see a site that actually needs and takes advantage of flash, except to be annoyign and slow to use.
#3.2 qkslvr221 on 18 Apr 2005 - 21:58
Hey, it's nowhere NEAR as bad as embedded java applets
#4 kevcart3 on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:14
Wow, I don't know about anybody else, but this comes as a total shock to me. Wonder what adobe has in mind for using macromedia for?
#5 vetMr magoo on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:16
I don't think Adobe would do that - mainly because they've got no reason to. Dreamweaver et al. are not only excellent products, but a great revenue stream for the company - heck - what do you think has been funding Macromedia these last few years?

The two companies have realised they could make lots more money coming together and offering more integrated solutions. And good luck to them - I'm sure they'll make a good go of it. However much you might dislike either, products like Photoshop CS are Dreamweaver are really useful tools that quite a few people like.
#6 Bamagrad03 on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:17
Adobe's stock is down about $6.50 this morning...ouch.

I always liked Macromedia.
#7 altermind on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:17
this is screwed up..... I wish this would not happen.......

I use both of there products..... but.. I don't like Adobe web stuff.. they should stay away from that... they suck at it
#8 Ficman on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:17
Man that's a LOT of Money...
(1 reply) #9 xntx on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:18
What software has Adobe to put in place of Dreamweaver?
Hmmm... I don't care anyway, I didn't like the last Dreamweaver, so I still use MX version...
#9.1 cjrciadt on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:21
I love MX 2004 much better than the 01 version. I guess much bigger bundles of dilluted versions of both makers software.
(3 replies) #10 cjrciadt on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:18
Adobe + Macromedia= AdobeMedia. Sort of like Sprint and Nextel what's next Toyota and GM!!!!!!!
#10.1 eAi on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:50
It won't be AdobeMedia, "Media" is too generic and adds nothing to Adobe that suggests it contains macromedia. Thats the problem with a name like macromedia, its made up of two very common word-parts, bit like Microsoft...
#10.2 jameswjrose on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:12
Actually, GM and Toyota were combined, sort of, in the 80's. In Fremont CA a GM plant closed, so after a few years Toyota offered to lease the plant and hire the previous workers to build Toyotas.

Moral? Be careful what you wish for.

Peace,
James Rose
#10.3 Skyfrog on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:13
Wasn't it called New United Motors? My second car was a Chevyota Nova. It was a Chevy Nova hatchback but it was built by Toyota using a lot of their parts. It was strange because you could go around and find the name Toyota printed all over the place such as the tail lights and the edge of the gauges if you looked carefully. It was actually a pretty good car; had passed 250,000 miles and still running fine when I got rid of it.

I don't know about this Adobe thing though.
(2 replies) #11 Chicane-UK on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:18
And we complain about Microsoft being a monopoly. When it comes to art and graphic design software, the market totally belongs to these guys.

I worry that there will be some pretty uncompetitive behaviour now thanks to their 'freedom' to do what they want.
#11.1 cjrciadt on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:23
Watched the ROTS trailer for the 1000 time think of the Empire when you hear about AdobeMedia.
#11.2 PacificAk on 19 Apr 2005 - 04:34
QUOTE
Watched the ROTS trailer for the 1000 time think of the Empire when you hear about AdobeMedia.


LOL.... so Chizen (Adobe CEO) is the emperor & Stephen Elop (MM CEO) is Darth Vader...!!!
#12 Sinzen on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:19
Totally didn't see this coming. This is nuts....talk about taking control of the market. Hopefully this will mean a new breed of creative suites, along with more powerful and robust programs that will enable the end user to be more productive and creative in one smooth motion.
#13 Sub on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:31
Maybe dreamweaver will come out with an update finally.
(4 replies) #14 Mongrel on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:35
Wow... this could be really, really bad. I love both company's products, but Macromedia absolutely wipes the floor with Adobe when it comes to web design. Even Macromedia's web presence (their site for instance) sets a high mark for integration of the technology.

Oh, and ImageReady sucks balls, in case anyone wasn't familiar. There's a LOT to lose here... bad move guys (probably). It's funny that the stock went down - maybe lots of the shareholders are designers?!
#14.1 krono6 on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:31
Yes, Image Ready does suck.... I just use UnFreez instead.
#14.2 Blackice on 18 Apr 2005 - 18:58
uhh, but you are guessing their corporate plans and saying its bad based on your guessing.

I'd say that Adobe know that macromedia are better are a lot of things adobe are falling at, so to boost them both they are combined.

Why buy a company just to cancel its product line? Of course Adobe will keep macromedia's projects rolling. I'm guessing even the shareholders want that
#14.3 Dirtie on 18 Apr 2005 - 22:09
What's wrong with ImageReady? I find it great for making image-based web pages and also good for animated GIFs.
#14.4 D-j-M on 18 Apr 2005 - 22:27
I'm guessing it "sucks" because they don't know how to use it.
#15 Snafu on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:38
Didn't see this one coming at all. I wonder if Adobe will add any Macromedia products to the CS line?

Adobe Flash CS?
#16 Starchild on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:49
As a web designer, I cannot count the amount of times I've gone from Photoshop to ImageReady to DreamWeaver ... a design process that is pretty much standard issue.

As one company, they could integrate their software and probably get rid of ImageReady all together, and go from Photoshop directly to DreamWeaver, shortning the whole process.

This could be good.

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(1 reply) #17 anog on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:49
But why did Macromedia accept this? Are they in finacial problems?
#17.1 eAi on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:56
I supose they believe it will benefit both companies. I can't see Adobe scrapping any of Macromedia's products in the short term. I can see some consolidation, i.e. feature copying between the two sets of apps with an eventual consolidation into one (or two) set(s) of apps. Its not somthing thats going to happen over night and in the end I imagine it would benefit most users as it can help streamline the publishing and creation process, though the lack of obvious competition might become an issue. Apple might step in here at some point, we'll see...
(2 replies) #18 tahoma on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:55
apparently dreamweaver and flash will continue to live, dreamweaver replacing golive. fireworks and freehand probably will cease to exist
#18.1 eAi on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:59
Thats speculation, they haven't announced things. Don't promote rumours or speculation as facts...
#18.2 tahoma on 18 Apr 2005 - 23:27
i read that on a news site. may be speculation but not by me
#19 frankchn on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:03
they have managed to do this quite silently
#20 elpipetuanis on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:05
All i have to say is that i hope they don't get rid of dreamweaver becasue GoLive sucks. But i think this will be sweet. They won't ever get rid of flash, this is probably the biggest reason why they bought them.
#21 iampedro on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:07
It is just better... Probbly were Macromedia was lacking Adobe was better... It is ..

Adobe = PhotoShop, AdobeAudition, Ect....

Macromedia = Better WebEditing, Flash, & Server Stuff


It is just better all around... I was wondering when they were going to release the next Dreamweaver and I guess this answers alot of questions that I had... I know that this would be a good combo for both companies... Since Adobe has great products and Macormedia has good products... Everyone Wins..
(5 replies) #22 PayneX on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:11
ok, so

Adobe eats Macromedia
Apple eats Adobe
Apple eats Microsoft.
Apple pwn.


hail new world order.
#22.1 rIaHc3 on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:26
God your so sad.
Wasting your life's time on posting that....
#22.2 kgraphik on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:23
Uhh, nice logic there...
#22.3 McFly on 18 Apr 2005 - 21:25
I actually thought that was a clever analysis...plus it made me laugh
#22.4 rm20010 on 19 Apr 2005 - 02:29
Sure fanboy, dream on for that to happen - you'll be waiting for a century.
#22.5 PacificAk on 19 Apr 2005 - 04:43
QUOTE
Apple eats Microsoft



LOL .... u realise how long it will take Apple to be in a position to "EAT" Microsoft....????!!!!
probably a zillion years...!!! hahahahahahahahahaha....
#23 mihir on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:23
i'm not too happy over this, but dreamweaver isn't going anywhere, the only ones i think will take the plunge is freehand, not sure about fireworks, it's not really the same as photoshop.
#24 nic on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:26
good for the investors, bad for the employees and the customers. Pretty much only good for the money grubbers.



maybe the worse news of the day.
(2 replies) #25 rIaHc3 on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:27
I am also shocked at this. Didnt see this coming.
I just hope that Adobe doesnt make flash slow like their Acrobat Reader...
#25.1 eAi on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:39
Adobe Reader is much faster in version 7 than 6. I don't think any company has an aim or policy to make software they develop slow.
#25.2 nic on 18 Apr 2005 - 16:09
Acrobat 6 was a complete flop. It isn't even backwards compatible with a lot of our Acrobat 4 documents!! Thank God Acrobat 7 is compatible with our old PDF files. But with Acrobat 7 they've totally changed their licensing. We really need to get Acrobat distiller 7 for about 12 of our computers. Too bad the minimum order is like 150!

pppffffttttt.... that reminds me of a post I need to make in the software forum...
#26 XanDaMan on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:33
Woah. When I sene the title, I only seen mac, so I though, must be some random company, not macromedia but

But I adore fireworks. Imageready is absolutey horrific. I don't need photoshop that much...so fireworks better not be killed.

Man.

This news sucks
(1 reply) #27 Colin-uk on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:38
i always thought macromedia were such a big company
#27.1 D-j-M on 18 Apr 2005 - 22:29
They are? It's not as if they're being taken over because they're going bankrupt. They're being done over by Adobe to get rid of the largest competitor, simple economics tbh.

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(1 reply) #28 stncttr908 on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:54
I don't really see Adobe giving the axe to any of Macromedia's products, with the exception of a few. Perhaps Freehand will be completely axed in favor of Illustrator, but I don't see productrs like Fireworks, Dreamweaver, and Flash disappearing. Perhaps they'll all go through major overhauls, but they'll still be there.
#28.1 lbmouse on 19 Apr 2005 - 14:53
Perhaps Freehand will be completely axed in favor of Illustrator

No, they'll proably combine the two into "Frustrator"... since they both suck a little in their own ways.
(2 replies) #29 Sleibhin on 18 Apr 2005 - 16:03
All they have to do now is buy Quark and Adobe will rule the Design Industry.
#29.1 Mongrel on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:42
I wish they would - I'm tired of my fellows in the industry fussing with Quark - they just don't GET how craptastic it is. InDesign 4EVER!
#29.2 Blackice on 18 Apr 2005 - 19:02
I think the two of them comined are going to dominate the media/graphic design industry.

Can't really think of any noticeable competitors... Apple wouldn't come close, because Adobe/MacroMedia support intel processors and the win32 platform!
#30 Webgraph on 18 Apr 2005 - 16:04
Not that surprised about such news. Then again, I just hope this doesn't result in dramatic price increases for their products, which they already are expensive ($850 CDN for Photoshop the last time I checked)!
(1 reply) #31 Mr. Dee on 18 Apr 2005 - 16:17
This definitely has something to do with undermining QuarkXpress and compatibility between Macromedia products. Shame on you Adobe.
#31.1 Gunbuster on 18 Apr 2005 - 16:31
How? Adobe don't even own Macromedia yet.
#32 StuRReaL on 18 Apr 2005 - 16:23
not sure i'm loving this, whats gonna happen to dreamweaver and flash, macromedias two best applications, hopefully freehand and fireworks will be destroyed as illustrator and photoshop are much better but they had better replace go live with dreamweaver
#33 Bahiatronic on 18 Apr 2005 - 16:39
Adobe Dreamweaver 2005...
Adobe Flash 2005...

Hmm still doesn't sound right...!! i hope they keep macromedia as a brand still after the acquisition!!
#34 Andre on 18 Apr 2005 - 16:46
I just hope Adobe will bring back LiveMotion. It was kick ass when they still had it under development.
(1 reply) #35 kgraphik on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:24
Wow. Please tell me this is a very late April Fools joke...
#35.1 eilegz on 19 Apr 2005 - 05:14
well hope that its true but its not
#36 paulhaskew on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:32
whoa, damn

those were my first thoughts...
#37 Blackice on 18 Apr 2005 - 18:36
woa...

this is gonna be great...
#38 Arckon on 18 Apr 2005 - 18:48
I must say that on one hand I am surprised by this and on the other hand I kinda saw this coming.

Anyway, some of my favorite apps are from both of these companies! Mainly Dreamweaver and Photoshop. I can't really live w/o either of them.

I know that Adobe announced support for Linux as of late. But I hope it doesn't just stop w/ Acrobat. I would really love to now see Dreamweaver and Photoshop for Linux!

I realize that many people like the Gimp and Nvu, but I very much prefer Photoshop and Dreamweaver. I really hope Adobe does the right thing and ports more of their apps to Linux!
#39 Shibby on 18 Apr 2005 - 18:48
who says adobe are going to change macromedia, for all we know they just want to purchase it. and have two compleaty differnt companys
maybe adobe just want a bigger market shate, both companys have great products, i think adobe will try and keep macromedia away from adobe.
i only see a few apps getting ditched both of differnt bands, but important ones such as Flash, Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Premiere will stay on.
infact i would say Go Live and Freehand would go.
#40 theefool on 18 Apr 2005 - 18:52
This pdf has a lot more info on the merger.
The company name will be Adobe Systems Incoporated.

http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/pdfs/AdobeMacromediaFAQ.pdf

I believe the following bit of info may clear up some things.

Found on page 8:

What happens to the Macromedia brand?
Adobe recognizes the strong equity of the Macromedia brand. That said, it makes great business sense for a company the size of the combined company to align behind a single corporate brand. Over time, Macromedia products will transition to the Adobe brand. Adobe expects to keep and continue investing in key Macromedia product brands.

Once the merger is complete in Q4 2005, their new roadmap should be coming out.

Once again, this is a detailed in the FAQ.
#41 Rudy on 18 Apr 2005 - 18:56
thats a shame
#42 Spitfire_x86 on 18 Apr 2005 - 18:57
sucks

I hope Adobe will keep Fireworks alive
#43 BGuillaume on 18 Apr 2005 - 19:01
oh well always got confused between the two companies anyway...
(3 replies) #44 envision on 18 Apr 2005 - 20:06
Your all very confused - after the aquisition, both Macromedia and Adobe will remain, as they are.. two seperate faces each with their own product line. There will undoubtedly be new products created collaboratively, but Dreamweaver or any of their products aren't going away.

lol.. i swear some people just read the subject and then comment!
#44.1 -DarkPhoeniX- on 18 Apr 2005 - 20:37
They'll remain as seperate identities until the aquisition has been finalised, then the long process of integrating and rebranding the existing product lines will start...

The following is taken from the FAQ available at http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelatio...cromediaFAQ.pdf
QUOTE
What are the benefits of the combined product lines?
Many of our customer segments are complementary and in many cases customers in those segments are using products from both companies. The combined company will be able to offer increased productivity through streamlined workflow and tighter integration. However, until the close of the transaction, the companies will continue to operate their respective businesses as usual.
Over what period of time will the expected benefits be realized?
We anticipate some benefits will be realized shortly after the deal closes and we expect others may take several product cycles.
Are there areas of duplication in product lines? If so, how will that be addressed?
Adobe and Macromedia are committed to serving the needs of our combined customers. The companies are largely complementary, and thus the amount of competition between us is limited. Post closing, we believe the industry will remain as dynamic and competitive as it is today. Until the close of transaction, the companies will continue to operate business and usual. The combined company will not be able to create a joint product roadmap until after the transaction is closed.


#44.2 theefool on 18 Apr 2005 - 20:38
I pretty much agree. Just a bit of delving into the subject almost answers all questions.

I'm sure more info will be coming out Q4 2005 or perhaps sometime in 2006+.
#44.3 -DarkPhoeniX- on 18 Apr 2005 - 20:49
QUOTE
Will this affect the planned release of Macromedia Studio MX later this year?
No.


Looks like we still get a new release of Studio MX!!!
#45 -DarkPhoeniX- on 18 Apr 2005 - 20:26
Well, I hope that they can clear up some of the overlapping features between their products,
Photoshop has to stay, maybe they could drop ImageReady in favor of Fireworks, as nothing else can touch it for web graphics. GoLive MUST be dropped, 'ca