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Warner Bros. Studios and Microsoft To Release HD-DVD Titles

Daniel Fleshbourne   on 18 April 2005 - 16:04 · 42 comments & 4461 views

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Today at the National Association of Broadcasters convention, NAB2005, Warner Bros. Studios and Microsoft Corp. announced their plans to collaborate on the release of a broad range of next-generation HD DVD discs using Windows Media® Video 9, Microsoft's implementation of VC-1, the proposed Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers (SMPTE) standard approved by the DVD Forum for HD DVD. Warner Home Video currently plans to release titles in the fourth quarter of 2005. HD DVD represents the first major push to deliver high-definition content to consumers on optical media in the U.S.

The collaboration signifies Warner Bros.' continued commitment to providing new digital entertainment experiences for consumers using the best digital media solutions available. Microsoft will collaborate with Warner Bros. to ensure that the video quality of HD DVD titles is unmatched, enabling true home theater experiences.

"Warner Bros. has evaluated the video quality of VC-1 and found it to be outstanding, making it an ideal format for the delivery of high-definition content," said Chris Cookson, chief technology officer at Warner Bros. Entertainment, Inc. "By releasing a wide range of titles in VC-1, we are creating great new opportunities to bring high-definition video to consumers."

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"Warner Bros.' plan to use VC-1 for the release of HD DVDs presents consumers with exciting new options for watching high-definition content," said Blair Westlake, corporate vice president of the Media/Entertainment & Technology Convergence Group at Microsoft. "As a technology provider, Microsoft is encouraged by the industry's efforts to deliver next-generation high-definition video experiences for consumers, and we see the Warner Bros. collaboration as a significant milestone."

Warner Bros. has one of the largest libraries of any motion picture studio with over 6,500 feature films, 40,000 TV episodes and 14,000 animated titles (including more than 1,500 classic animated shorts). The library includes such world-renowned franchises as "Superman," "Batman," "Friends," "E.R." and "The West Wing," as well as such contemporary theatrical hits as "Ocean's Eleven," "Mystic River" and "The Last Samurai." The studio is expected to announce the release of an increasing amount of its content on HD DVD as its involvement with the format continues.


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(2 replies) #1 Gowcra on 18 Apr 2005 - 16:28
YAY
#1.1 mealbundy on 19 Apr 2005 - 23:42
oh please, the HD player will be affordable in about 3-4 years, and even then who would pay again to replace their dvd collection? or even a new burner? BluRay is gonna end up like MiniDisc and Memory stick, mooched and royaltied like crazy, and for what, just because its sony baloney?

#1.2 cal2002 on 19 Apr 2005 - 23:46
lol. Your funny (and wrong about 90% of what you speak of)
#2 Stijn on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:16
2 bad i live in holland!!!
(1 reply) #3 PayneX on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:17
Sounds to me like Microsoft and WB have made their choice, as to whihc side of the bluray hd-dvd war they're on.
I wonder if this will be conclusive.
#3.1 cal2002 on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:47
Note: VC-1 is part of BOTH Blu-Ray and HD-DVD
(4 replies) #4 Pride on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:27
anyone notice that while the dvd's tv etc video gets better for home use, we are still using film in movie theaters? Pretty soon, people will stop going to theaters, as the quality/sound will be better at home than in the theatre!
#4.1 cal2002 on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:47
Theaters need to finsih making the change to pure digital. Problem: The money and time when the average person could care less.
#4.2 Dirtie on 18 Apr 2005 - 22:19
Film is also still the preferred medium for directors.
#4.3 hardgiant on 19 Apr 2005 - 03:14
35 mm film has 8 million pixels compared with 2 million for Digital Cinema.

I hope they stay with film or better yet go back to the 1970's when they used to release movies on 70mm.

Have you ever seen IMAX, there is still nothing as good as film !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They also have the option to go to Maxivision48 which is way better then Digital today and a lot less expensive.

Film is uncompressed !!!!

http://www.maxivision48.com/

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#4.4 Skyfrog on 19 Apr 2005 - 07:24
Why does everyone automatically think digital is always better? It's not.
(3 replies) #5 paulhaskew on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:30
sooo is there any hardware available to the public that can play these things yet?
#5.1 cal2002 on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:45
No
#5.2 supersaiyanjericho on 19 Apr 2005 - 00:52
I thought HD-DVD is compatible with today's DVD players and that was a major advantage for it.
#5.3 cal2002 on 19 Apr 2005 - 00:58
There are disc's that will have the current MPEG-2 720x480 on one side, which will play in a regular ol' DVD player. It's impossible to play higher bitrate MPEG-2, VC-1, and AVC in a current player. Both BD and HD-DVD have this. Of course, with the limited amount of space on HD-DVD's to start with, taking up that space with extra low bitrate content will cost you video and audio quality on the HD side (and that's what your paying for, higher birate, higher res, better quality)
(2 replies) #6 Mathiasdm on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:42
Nooo!!!! They should use Blu-ray, not HD-DVD
#6.1 beatlesdb on 19 Apr 2005 - 03:27
It all comes down to money in one form or another. At the moment DVD hardware prices have tumbled, my first DVD player cost me AU$600 now you can get better units for around AU$70.

Blue Ray will make the units expensive as the hardware manufactures will have to re-tool for the new type of units, while HD DVD that uses the current Red Laser technology with a minor tweak to the wave length width will allow hardware manufactures to make some basic changes to their equipment.

This means that we will see Blue Ray hard ware back at similar prices that we saw the DVD hard when it came out. I don't think this is such a bad thing - but lots of people are only now getting to DVD due to affordability.

If both Blue Ray and HD-DVD come out together then HD-DVD will be the clear winner due to it's overall lower price, there wont be enough enthusiasts out there such as myself who will support the hardware - leading to the old VHS Beta war from the 80's

#6.2 cal2002 on 19 Apr 2005 - 03:50
Sorry to say, but you have that incorrect. Nearly all of the early adopters are pusing towards Blu-Ray and NOT HD-DVD. Real enthusiasts knows a lot more then you (who I would consider an average consumer) about both. They know what both will offer, and they know which they will lean to. They are not leaning to HD-DVD by ANY means. Sorry.

Both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are still more than a year out from being ready for the average consumer.

Oh, HD-DVD doesn't exactly use "Red Laser technology" by any means. Also, the price difference will be less then you think. The "Real enthusiasts" know this too.
(6 replies) #7 Zaph47 on 18 Apr 2005 - 19:15
Too bad they're not using H.264 and Apple. Oh well, APple's teaming up with Sony (Columbia Pictures)...the Blu-Ray / HD-DVD wars continue..
#7.1 cal2002 on 18 Apr 2005 - 19:25
VC-1 won most of the DVD Forums testing versus AVC and some versus extremely high bitrate MPEG-2 at nearly double the file size. It's a good thing they are not using AVC
#7.2 emel on 18 Apr 2005 - 21:07
AVC 100% mpeg-4 compatible and you can play AVC in any mpeg-4 dvd player ( most divx players plays them).. but their many players dont support AAC audio that usually comes with AVC but you can use mp3 for audio too..
#7.3 Divide Overflow on 18 Apr 2005 - 21:58
AVC may be 100% MPEG 4 compatible, but what difference does that make? The player is useless unless it can read the media, which as everyone knows, no DVD player will be able to read a HD-DVD or Blu-ray disc.

I'm just pissed that they choose to do this now, after I have purchased thousands of dollars worth of DVDs. They may not be useless, but which would you rather have? A VHS copy of a movie or a DVD copy? Same principle.
#7.4 cal2002 on 18 Apr 2005 - 22:33
Oh, no. You are thinking of MPEG-4 ASP, not AVC. Most players that support DivX 4+ (MPEG-4) will do MPEG-4 ASP@L5 (WITHOUT GMC) and are limited to 720p.

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#7.5 aleks on 18 Apr 2005 - 23:55
To me it doesnt make a difference if they are utilizing Microsoft's WMV9 or H.264 providing third party HD-DVD commercial software players gets developed on OS X and Linux.

I certainly dont want to be in a world where in 3 years time I have to purchase "Microsoft certified" HD-DVD players or software.

#7.6 cal2002 on 19 Apr 2005 - 00:30
Microsoft will have nothing to do with it. You will be fighting with the AACS (To get a secure chain for playback) and the MPEG LA.
(2 replies) #8 generalnewbie on 18 Apr 2005 - 19:33
i thought i saw a player do it..
http://www.neodigits.com/body/product/HVD208/feature.asp

plays HD content..

anyways...im glad they finally descided to take the next step into home movies..
as ive read both the blue ray sony side.. and HD toshibia side.. it seems
that HD-DVD is cheaper to make then Blue ray .. and can get out to the public
first... making it go to market faster.
#8.1 cal2002 on 18 Apr 2005 - 19:39
No, that will upscale SD content to HD resolutions. Players like this have been around for years (- the 1080p part)
#8.2 mayamaniac on 18 Apr 2005 - 19:52
Also, it says on their website that their player will not play HD-DVD nor Blu-Ray. It's only compatible with some china HD DVD specs.
#9 ablack6596 on 18 Apr 2005 - 19:34
To bad HD DVD will fail.
(3 replies) #10 Shadow Dragon on 18 Apr 2005 - 21:46
Damn idiots, as if the average consumer wasn't confused enough already, holodiscs will be out soon after and will feature ten times the storage .
#10.1 Dirtie on 18 Apr 2005 - 22:21
...And it will project onto air particles wherever you want!
#10.2 cal2002 on 18 Apr 2005 - 23:18
lol. No they won't.
#10.3 Shadow Dragon on 19 Apr 2005 - 13:15
Yeah, those kind of holodiscs would be cool, but they aren't possible yet, the ones I'm talking about are called HVD's did a quick search for it, check out the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc
(1 reply) #11 LexLaw on 19 Apr 2005 - 00:04
$10 says The Matrix is the first title released...
#11.1 cal2002 on 19 Apr 2005 - 00:28
All 3 Matrix titles will be released in Q4. Constantine will be released in Q4 also. If you are into Keanu Reeves movies you should be happy with the launch.
#12 ghos on 19 Apr 2005 - 01:52
I agree that it is going to be confusing for the average consumer to have yet another format (well two formsts) to deal with. As is is the dual dvd recording formats (not counting RAM) are driving them crazy.
I understand though that it is needed as we head towards HDTV broadcasts becoming mandatory. Even so I don't see things letting up in the future. Technology is moving so fast that formats don't last as long as they used to. Once the internet and broadband becomes more complete in its coverage they that may become the standard for delivering content.
(3 replies) #13 betasp on 19 Apr 2005 - 15:00
I for one am getting REAL tired of all these competing standards. It is like watching the news, you always hear from the critics, even if there is only one.

Why does MS have to release a standard in compression. why do they have to enter this market. WTF does this have to do with making Windows or Office better (the only 2 viable products MS sells).

All consumers want if for their stuff to work. That is all. Why do you think most people hate computers?
#13.1 cal2002 on 19 Apr 2005 - 17:08
I would suggest you stop getting "REAL tired of all these competing standards" when you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

VC-1, MPEG-2, and AVC WILL ALL BE USED IN BOTH HD-DVD AND Blu-Ray! No matter what codec is picked by 'comapny x' it will play in any and all HD-DVD/Blu-Ray players.

You have your wish, it will work! If not, you didn't buy a true BD or HD-DVD player and if the player has an HD-DVD or Blu-Ray logo they will get sued for not supporting the standards that have been set.

Save your rants for something you know about, this is clearly not your subject. I would guess that you hate computers becuase you don't read and don't know enough about them.
#13.2 betasp on 19 Apr 2005 - 19:57
Wow cal, I have 19 or 20 DVDs in my Best Buy that I have authored for clients, how 'bout you. I may have more in bigger markets. I am considered an expert Scenarist and Maestro authorer.

The MS format is not a completly open format, and thus IMO is bad for the market. I don't understand why they entered the market. What are the advantages? Why move so far away from your core business? What is the leverage in this market? Where is the money to be made?
#13.3 cal2002 on 19 Apr 2005 - 20:39
Alright, so you author DVD's. That's cool. You use MPEG-2, correct? Located at www.mpegla.com/m2/?

With VC-1, you have a Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers (SMPTE) standard in the works, and what do you know, look at what the MPEGLA has www.mpegla.com/pid/vc1/. Oh, and what is www.mpegla.com/avc/ ?

Why enter the market? Provide lower cost licensing, a codec that has proven to out perform AVC in some cases and MPEG-2 in a few cases.

What are the advantages? Choice for people who author content (this is you, correct). You can pick from MPEG-2, VC-1, or AVC. Hell, you could do one chapter in AVC and another in MPEG-2! Companies to have to pay large licensing costs, if I choose to use VC-1 if might be lower then that of MPEG-2. And from a consumer point of view, better video quality potential.

Why move so far away from your core business? basic business is always trying to grow. If you have already developed WMV9 a few years ago, why not propose a standard to SMPTE? Oh, as a standard nothing stops anyone from developing their own encoder, decoders, etc. In truth, it becomes much less Microsoft's.

What is the leverage in this market? Licensing, and the ability to have content grow from a Windows PC to a STB and back. Have micro content that can be streamed from the web to an STB using what IS a mandatory codec that all HD and BD will have to support.

Where is the money to be made? Licensing, although parts of VC-1 are based off parts of MPEG-4. In some cases, Microsoft will be paying out money too. In same cases they stand to make a little. The future. IPTV, micro-content, web streaming, etc.
#14 SlakeT on 20 Apr 2005 - 01:28
Superior technology. Go MS! Yet another triumph.
#15 hardgiant on 20 Apr 2005 - 05:55
Blu-ray, also known as Blu-ray Disc (BD) is the name of a next-generation optical disc format jointly developed by the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA), a group of leading consumer electronics and PC companies (including Apple, Dell, Hitachi, HP, JVC, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson).


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