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Hong Kong Tops Broadband Speed List

dbfriends   on 26 April 2005 - 07:56 · 37 comments & 8101 views

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Think your 1Mbps connection is speedy? You ain't seen nothing yet. A Hong Kong ISP has unveiled a service which zips along at an impressive 1Gbps - well, for local traffic anyway. Connections outside of the island will be a bit slower than that.

The new service is being priced at $215 - around £112 - a month. People who don't reckon they need that much bandwidth can get a 100Mbps service for $34 a month, or around £19. 10Mbps, meanwhile, is available at the bargain price of $16 (around £10) to those lucky islanders.

Around 800,000 of Hong Kong's 2.2 million households will be able to take advantage of the symmetric service, being offered by HongKong Broadband Network. The company is wiring up Cisco routers and switches, and laying miles of Cat5e cable, to cope with the ultra-fast connection speeds.

Meanwhile, scientists have succeeded in firing 60 terabytes of data around the world in just 10 days. The Rutherford Appleton Laboratory in Oxfordshire was involved in the GridPP project - they aim to get speeds of up to 600Mbps by 2007. The current test ran at a relatively slow 70Mbps.

View: HongKong Broadband Network - English homepage
View: Converge Hong Kong Coverage
View: The Inquirer scientists Coverage


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#1 pork-bun on 26 Apr 2005 - 08:04
The reputation of the service provider is one of the worst in Hong Kong.
#2 bush on 26 Apr 2005 - 08:28
lucky assholes
(1 reply) #3 koocha on 26 Apr 2005 - 08:42
They get 10Mbps for a tenner?

Is everything else so cheap there?
#3.1 toadeater on 26 Apr 2005 - 21:06
No. Unless you are willing to eat unidentified food. Like Multifish, Sink Soup, Long Pig, Once Eaten Rice, etc.

I think I might be willing to do that for 1Gps internet!
(2 replies) #4 razorfold on 26 Apr 2005 - 08:56
u dont knoe hong kong....its shared...they say u get 10mbps but then share it with 8 other people so u get 1.5mbps only....its prob the same with the 1gbps

this service provider is crap their 10mb connection cant download faster than 145kbps....

its cheap cuz its ****

heres an example...i bought a 6mbps dedicated (private) line....my speed test result shows:

1203.5 Kbps

as someone said on the forums:
QUOTE
If anyone has read the gory details, 1Gbps is for internal (to HK) use only.
As soon as you try to get anywhre outside of HK the serviced speed will drop.

So basically its one big fast WAN/LAN.

Also, this ISP has spent tonnes of money on this.
Cisco switches and routers in core buildings, and then ethernet to homes as necessary.
Fibre between routers (as expected).

All makes sense really.
What we need for comparison reasons is the speed these home users will get once they try to visit anything non-HK !!


Last edited by 107497 on 26 Apr 2005 - 09:02
#4.1 AquaDex on 26 Apr 2005 - 10:44
Do you even have any freaking idea how internet connection for residential customers works for everywhere? It's always shared, nomatter it's the UK 512Kbps broadband, in US 3Mbps broadband or the newer 10Mbps broadband, the 1Gbps broadband in Japan and Korea (they had that for quite some time), or even dialup, it's all shared, the dedicated 1Gbps speed only applies to your connection to the facility of your ISP in your region (in Hong Kong's case, your building or your area's routers), beyond that, let say I have 10 1Gbps customers (20 Mbps oversea bandwidth each) and I have total of 100Mbps of subscribed overseas transit to, for example ATDN, 100Mbps is all these 10 customers get at maximum assuming they all use up all their possible bandwidth (that is less than 20Mbps to the actual internet exchange).

Even dedicated leased line is shared for that matter, I never seen any business leased line provider can provide a guaranteed 1Gbps connection to any internet exchange in the world, that would be basically impossible to do unless they order you your own bandwidth at all the internet exchanges and that would cost hundred thousands of dollars.

And by the way, if your 6Mb "dedicated line" only gives you 1200Kbps, that's only 1.2Mbps, I wouldn't call that dedicated.

Also, 145Kbps is 18KBps, I never seen anyone using HKBN's service get that kind of speed from any major sites on the internet, maybe HKBN hates you that's why they capped your speed.

How can someone who can't even destinguish between B (byte) and b (bit) judge a provider's service? You gave me quite a laugh there my friend.



Just for other's information, HKBN has a guaranteed connection program, if you are using one of their fiber internet services and think you cannot get 80% of the advertised speed from the local exchange (Hong Kong Internet Exchange), you can call them and have a technician to do a test on your connection, and if you really do get less than 80% of the advertised speed, you get 2 day's worth of service refund for each day this problem exists, now that's quality I can trust.
#4.2 razorfold on 27 Apr 2005 - 06:01
im saying they say u get 10mbps but they share ur line with everyone else so the max u get is 1.5 only

Last edited by 1798 on 27 Apr 2005 - 16:09
#5 [a] on 26 Apr 2005 - 09:39
damn lux0rs :<
#6 Dirtie on 26 Apr 2005 - 10:28
Wow, it costs $70 New Zealand Dollars a month here for 2Mbps - and there's a 10GB bandwidth (up and down) cap on that.
#7 JimmyT on 26 Apr 2005 - 10:39
And I pay $77 for 384kbps
#8 Hankyone on 26 Apr 2005 - 10:59
im going to bne upgraded from 3mbps to 5mbps soon
only 30$ cnd
(2 replies) #9 computerchan on 26 Apr 2005 - 11:38
I'm from Hong Kong
HKBN gets only 20Mb for overseas and 13Gb to HKIX (Hong Kong Internet Exchange)
guess the maximum utilization of this 1000Mb broadband

btw, I'm not interested on it's 100Mb and 10Mb service too, coz this ISP sucks indeed ...

edit: corrected to all B(Bytes) to b(bits)

Last edited by 51 on 28 Apr 2005 - 07:10
#9.1 pork-bun on 26 Apr 2005 - 11:44
You'd better use Mb and Gb... otherwise people may misunderstand that you are talking about megabytes and gigabytes respectively
#9.2 shao on 26 Apr 2005 - 11:57
those figures certainly back up my experiences of using the internet in china. International sites were exceptionally slow, with many firewalled ports* (irc on all standard ports was blocked for example), but sites internal to china ran very quick. Whatever the speed cap, you have to wonder about what you're paying for if there is a very serious bandwidth cap to the rest of the world from the isp's hq.

* from both my hotel and an internet cafe.
(1 reply) #10 Sub on 26 Apr 2005 - 12:19
MIles of Cat5e cable? I thought Cat5e was only good for about 200 feet, at which then you need a router or repeater...

Why not use fiber optic?
#10.1 AquaDex on 26 Apr 2005 - 12:55
They use fiber optic in their underground lines, but they're can't use them in buildings as fiber optic cannot be bent much thus hard to wire, and to answer the question, yes, they're installing a switch every 100 feet in buildings, thus about 5 stories in a building they install a switch, that contributed quite alot to the high cost of the network but sure it will pay off over time.
(1 reply) #11 esbi on 26 Apr 2005 - 15:23
I have a 2Mbps for around 50$ a week. And that's in a small country called Poland (). And i always have full speed, around 250kB/s
#11.1 esbi on 26 Apr 2005 - 15:23
week=month ofcourse
#12 .:Neo.X.WinFreak:. on 26 Apr 2005 - 15:38
in germany 1mbit costs like 10 pounds and round 15 pounds additional to that for the flat-rate (no caps)... its so costy here... (1024/12
naaah damn lucky HongKongs...

-fm
(1 reply) #13 epple on 26 Apr 2005 - 15:40
Sweden has had 1Gbps services for quite some time now..£59/US$112 a month. Cap? No..

Just to let you know, you know..
#13.1 Fredde87 on 28 Apr 2005 - 17:34
Where would this be? If you are talking about BBB then it is capped to 300gb per month... And if it is lund or something local then that is 1gbit shared. And bredband2 hasnt started their 1gbit service yet....
#14 Zeitgeist on 26 Apr 2005 - 15:52
And the US is stuck with monopoly cable ISPS who charge huge fees.

Obviously we can't expect speeds that rival tiny countries such as South Korea, Japan, Sweden, but I would think as a would power bent on cheap prices and wal-marts we could have at least 5mbps internet at $20/month. Instead we have massive monopoly Comcast charging around $60.

Down with Comcast!
(1 reply) #15 hulibecker on 26 Apr 2005 - 16:16
LOL Now it makes front page news!
2 threads from last week had this! ROFL
#15.1 rogerroger on 27 Apr 2005 - 19:24
Better late than never, right?
#16 Nose Nuggets on 26 Apr 2005 - 16:30
im in california and i pay 30 bucks for 4mb/s and its really 4mb/s. i guess its "shared" but i dont think many people around me use it.

its suposed to be 60 a month but i love hassling people to give me deals. cuz im a cheap *******.
#17 CrazyDelta on 26 Apr 2005 - 16:33
I too live in Hong Kong, and everything here is not what it seems.
10M my butt. There has been many complaints about the ISPs here to the Consumer Council.
I even got ripped once, when my previous ISP gave me the wrong address to return the cable modem, and then charged me for not returning. I had a long argument, and I am still waiting for my money to return after they just took it off my credit card.

All this is just marketing. The sales people just spin everything around, and make you think they really care about giving you service and quality. That's a BIG NO NO.

The problem with Hong Kong is its people actually. They are so damn busy with their work and lives that no one stands up and starts a boycott. Hell, most people are actually ignorant about the connection speeds or anything related. I have noticed people getting 56K modem speeds when actually they are suppose to have a 10M. And then there are some ISPs telling people oh, actually 1.5M, 3M, 6M, etc are actually better then 10M. I have a 6M line compared to a 1.5M at the office and there is no difference.

All in all, don't believe what you read, it's all a big hoax, and the corporations in Hong Kong are getting way too big and powerful, that they don't give a rat's ass what a person like me thinks about them.
#18 leojei on 26 Apr 2005 - 16:35
in toronto, i'm paying for $40 CAD something to get 600Kbps (kilobyte) dl cap with 100Kbps ul cap...~ and in HK they're charging for $16USD???!~

well, connectivities to/from outside of HK is still slow as hell~
#19 HeavenSpawn on 26 Apr 2005 - 17:34
In portugal we got from one extreme to the other... in just 4 months, give or take, we came from a connection of only 768kbps+ at a price of arround 80/100€/month, with a DL cap of 10GB of national traffic/2GB of international traffic, up to the current situation of a provider giving up to 16mbps/512kbps for 81€ with 80GB of traffic, (2/4/8mbps also available for 22/35/50€), and a very nice QoS, beeing that combined downloads from the same site can reach up to 900KB/s on the 8mbps line (that's the only one i've had experience with).... The ISP says it's all based on ADSL2/2+ technology...

Quite nice, i say...
#20 stezo2k on 26 Apr 2005 - 19:40
Damn, us UKer's are getting totally ripped off on our broadband i tell ya.....

£19 for 100mbs? wow, some of are paying that for 512k here....
#21 bucko on 26 Apr 2005 - 23:45
What can I say, UK = rip off
#22 dannymp3 on 27 Apr 2005 - 00:18
I am happy with my Comcast ISP. I get 4 Mbps down / 384 Kbps up for around $42.95/month. This of course is the price for when you have television with Comcast also. I believe if you don't get TV from Comcast, cable modem is around $60 or so.

What I'm glad about is i hit top speeds all the time. And upload is very good. I just don't like the downtimes Comcast has been having recently.
#23 jus1haz2 on 27 Apr 2005 - 06:21
i want fast internet here in the US :crys: 1.5mb here is 30

some ppl still pay 21 for 56k lol
#24 ArtOf_War on 27 Apr 2005 - 07:48
pay like 30 dolalrs month for 256kbps... they pay the same for 100Mbps... damn taiwanese
#25 dhitb on 27 Apr 2005 - 10:07
Hooray for U.S. ILEC's and overbloated cable companies!!!..... wait a minute.

*shoots self*
#26 fnordpojk on 27 Apr 2005 - 14:35
As people have said above, Sweden has 1Gbit/s for SEK 850/month ($120/£63/€92). Since we've got a great backbone, as long as the other side of the connection is inside Sweden and has got the bandwidth, you get what your connection can deliver. Outside Sweden, it's ofcourse not as good, but we still peer well with most European countries and the US.

Me, I've got a 10Mbit/s Ethernet connection for SEK 320/month ($45/£24/€35). If I wanted, I could get 24/1 ADSL2+ for SEK 249/month ($35/£18/€27), but I like my upload speed more than my download speed.

Oh, and none of these have any GB limits or caps.
#27 inthefade on 27 Apr 2005 - 20:14
if you want rip off come over to my gaff
i'm currently paying 30 euro for line rental and around 30 for dialup
overall i'm getting screwed for around 70 euro a month for a stingy 4 kilobyte/sec connection,
which sometimes doesn't work....you may ask why am i giving this much money (hard earned) away, its cos the national phone carrier ,eircom , are too miserable to open up all the exchanges for broadband, they say its on a per demand bull****e, but really it is because they make a fortune on dialup... damn am i pissed off with them..
#28 Spazztastic on 28 Apr 2005 - 14:45
...Time to set up a hub for hong kong...

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