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Microsoft wins email technology patent

malebolgia   on 19 May 2005 - 14:54 · 82 comments & 6126 views

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Microsoft has won a patent that could give the company control of certain essential features found in multiple email applications. The company was granted US patent number 6,895,426 on Tuesday. The patent covers, "treating electronic mail addresses as objects". Among other uses of this patent, Microsoft claims the technologies lets email addresses be added to a contact list easily: it also covers situations in which a user copies an address to a clipboard or double-clicks to access contact information that is relevant to an email address.

View: US patent number 6,895,426
News source: Macworld | UK


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#1 Tantawi on 19 May 2005 - 14:59
(2 replies) #2 macster on 19 May 2005 - 14:59
This sounds really lame...
#2.1 ricknl on 20 May 2005 - 07:37
Not really. If this 'thing' can be patented, this means anyone can do. For instance, a one-man company in the middle of nowhere can patent this 'thing', and sue Microsoft, say after 15 years from now, seeking for $800 million for the 'damages'.

In other words, by patenting even the most stupid looking ideas the companies are actually protecting themselves as well.
#2.2 theMaxx on 20 May 2005 - 14:54
This proves the patent shouldn't be granted in the first place......
#3 daPhoenix on 19 May 2005 - 15:00
And in other news, I have acquired the patent for the ability to breath air.
#4 cr3at0r on 19 May 2005 - 15:07
are you f*cking serious?
#5 Joshie on 19 May 2005 - 15:09
*idly wonders how many people will write whole posts thinking MS patented email itself*
#6 AethylFilth on 19 May 2005 - 15:09
That reminds me, I have to check on my patent status for the idea of having anything "loop"
#7 altermind on 19 May 2005 - 15:11
I swear.. the whole software patiant system needs to be redone.....
#8 Daugirdas on 19 May 2005 - 15:14
do you mean scraped out?
(1 reply) #9 nw_raptor on 19 May 2005 - 15:18
This must stop before things get out of hand...
#9.1 dland@adelphia.net on 20 May 2005 - 14:41
Way too late, has been for a long time! The EU is going through this very issue right now and it looks like software patents or ideas are going to be the standard!
(4 replies) #10 dismuter on 19 May 2005 - 15:20
Software patents are so stupid...
#10.1 soothsayer on 19 May 2005 - 19:51
100% agreed.
#10.2 EduardValencia on 20 May 2005 - 04:05
0% agreed
#10.3 eAi on 20 May 2005 - 10:37
100% agreed
#10.4 mr_da3m0n on 20 May 2005 - 12:13
100% agreed.

Those who think otherwise usually are confused in regard to copyright vs patents, or just people who likes patents because Microsoft likes them. *coughs coughs* Copyright will protect your expression of an idea. Those who likes to protect not only their expression of an idea, but in fact the idea itself are greedy b**tards.

Pantents are just there to be annoying in a software world.

*edit: Apparently the word you'd use to define a dog with mixed species, or people from SCO is censored. *shrugs*
#11 raid517 on 19 May 2005 - 15:24
So in other words crap like this squeezes out all other competition and prevents them from using the basic features of e-mail that have been part of the established standard for years? People warned crap like this would happen when software patents became real - and now here is the proof.

GJ
(2 replies) #12 maudit on 19 May 2005 - 15:33
Well that micro$oft for us
#12.1 DeepThought on 19 May 2005 - 22:34
hahahaha I get it you used a dollar sign and microsoft likes to make money!

lol that's so clever!
#12.2 Ideas Man on 20 May 2005 - 08:22
Damn, where do I learn to be as good as maudit? Is there a special school I should go to to be so 'cool'
(1 reply) #13 AethylFilth on 19 May 2005 - 15:36
that's it.. I'm becoming a chef.
#13.1 dland@adelphia.net on 20 May 2005 - 14:44
Better be careful, Microsoft, or some other company, may already have a patent on menus or how you flip a pancake!
(2 replies) #14 mr_demilord on 19 May 2005 - 15:38
were are the microsoft fanboi's who likes this newsflash?
#14.1 AethylFilth on 19 May 2005 - 15:42
eating their hats
#14.2 EduardValencia on 20 May 2005 - 04:06
right here!
#15 danniboi on 19 May 2005 - 15:49
My patent was just approved. I have a patent on patents
#16 aristotle-dude on 19 May 2005 - 16:09

Oh great.
<sarcasm>
Yeah no other OS did this before like say OS/2 or NeXTStep.
</sarcasm>
#17 hjimmy on 19 May 2005 - 16:12
guys...

Microsoft is Microsoft, since they have power and money, why not fire every possible patten as possible so other company won't come back and bite you...
(9 replies) #18 SlakeT on 19 May 2005 - 16:15
Good for MS. Now they need to patent all the other technology/ideas people like apple have simply stolen. Companies/people "claim" MS does it, so they can dish it back at them.

Note to flamers and mac cult members: eat my shorts you lamers!

#18.1 aristotle-dude on 19 May 2005 - 16:18
Man you are sad. Get a life.
#18.2 SlakeT on 19 May 2005 - 17:47
Man you are so easy. Get a brain.
#18.3 Mathiasdm on 19 May 2005 - 18:57
So you're actually saying MS deserves this patent?

These software patents are nightmares. They stop innovation and don't help anyone.

Also, there's no reason to keep mentioning how much you hate Apple. Nobody cares.
#18.4 SlakeT on 19 May 2005 - 19:24
Yes, MS does. Just like apples patent on - read my post below. Enough said.

BTW- I don't hate apple at all. Apple is good for MS. I just really hate their user base. Which when you consider the size of it, it's not that bad of a thing to hate.



#18.5 PCyr on 19 May 2005 - 19:47
troll
#18.6 SlakeT on 19 May 2005 - 19:55
Is that wonderfully intelligent comment supposed to hurt my feelings?

Sniff sniff
#18.7 EduardValencia on 20 May 2005 - 04:08
i'm with you slakeT microsoft has the right to preserve it's future
#18.8 mr_da3m0n on 20 May 2005 - 12:20
Yes Eduard. We know you are a fanboy, and a blind one at that.

Let me get this straight.... you'd prefer a company (and quite a big one at that) to protect their assets and future rather than protect freedom to innovate? To bring new, better ideas? MS is not the only software company in the world. New ideas that can bring more diversified, and better software to the consumer? (that is *you*).

I don't really get it. But then again I don't get those who dislike free spech, or spread hate against what they don't understand (read, fear) or what seems to different to them. And god knows the world is full of them.

I know I am wasting my time, you have a thick skull and will hang to your convictions no matter what. But I think this had to be said.
#18.9 PCyr on 20 May 2005 - 12:46
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Is that wonderfully intelligent comment supposed to hurt my feelings?


It's not meant "for you". I could write a big long explaination for you, like I've done previous times, however, let's just say even logic can't penitrate increadably thick things.

The comment is meant for any Neowin comment reader, to let them know that your opinions considered by others to be childish, and if they want more evidence, they can google up your posts.

It's mostly a case of, it's not worth my time to write up a paragraph for every simple trollish comment you make, as it would take way too much time, so I'll just flag your comment, and reply to the creatively trollish ones; people are far less likely to believe you if people are arguing with you and calling you a troll.

Damn, I think that qualifies for a paragraph.
(1 reply) #19 aristotle-dude on 19 May 2005 - 16:17
Does this mean that I have to pay MSFT to create mailto: URLS on webpages? They are treated as an object and they bring up a mail application with a new mail window.

*edit*
This thing was filed in 2000. Prior Art? Hello? MSFT did not even believe in the internet until it started to take off and were trying to push their MSN dialup service.

I remember trying out that service. It was worse than AOL.

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#19.1 joseph- on 19 May 2005 - 16:31
If they don't patent it, someone else will. The system is broke and needs an enema. Looks like companies are going to have to start pre-emptively patenting anything and everything software related so they can avoid more *ahem* pissant lawsuits.
#20 velkymx on 19 May 2005 - 16:42
Who is the jack ass giving out these patents??
#21 Colin-uk on 19 May 2005 - 17:12
i heard they were going to patent the @ symbol next
#22 fubarshibby on 19 May 2005 - 17:46
Damn this stuff is ridiculous.
(2 replies) #23 SlakeT on 19 May 2005 - 18:02
Now this is lame:

Apple Computer was granted a patent for an enigmatically titled "Electronic device" Tuesday, May 10th, 2005.

Other interesting apple "inventions/patents":

The Trashcan!
The Progress Bar!
The Menubar!
Close, hide, expand and minimize buttons!
Sound synchronized to user interface object interactions!
Automated Tasks!
Chromatic window with a map!
An electronic device holder, also known as the belt clip!
A three state icon!
A dynamically changing cursor!
A universal interface for retrieval of information in a computer system!
A tablet mac!

LOL!!!!!


#23.1 Mathiasdm on 19 May 2005 - 18:55
So we can agree that both Apple and Microsoft patented a few things, even though they shouldn't have.

Now, PLEASE stop trolling.
#23.2 mr_da3m0n on 20 May 2005 - 12:26
Anyone who uses "LOL!!!!" while trying to make a serious point is not to be taken seriously anyways.

Either that, or is stuck in 1997 on a 28.8 bauds modem.
(2 replies) #24 raid517 on 19 May 2005 - 18:03
There is something wrong with the picture here. Where are all the MS' fanboys who just love it when crap like this happens and pipe in about how much they would like to suck Bill Gates balls no matter what he does? They are strangly silent on this issue.

This is the start of where the whole patent thing just goes mad and looses any credibility. People warned that sooner or later there would be patents on things like right clicking to select copy and paste, or highlighting a body of text for formatting and so on - and guess what, it's starting to happen. This is right up there on the same level as all of that nonsense.

Patents are supposed to protect innovation - but all this does is stifle it.

GJ
#24.1 Joshie on 19 May 2005 - 18:17
I don't know where the MS fanboys are. But this thread has certainly attracted our friends with double standards, who'll cheer on any underdog with a patent, no matter how ridiculous and petty, who tries to sue Microsoft, swearing they "deserve it," then come back to mock MS everytime they file for a ridiculous/petty patent themselves.

I agree though. Patents have gotten way out of hand, but the issue will never be resolved because nobody can agree on where the 'line' should be drawn. I simply can't stand slippery slope arguments, however, and would personally gnaw the testicles off of everyone spewing them if I could. Affectionately, of course.
#24.2 Jugalator on 19 May 2005 - 18:24
I don't know about you, but I'd never cheer for a company getting software patents.

I think they should be abolished altogether. Let copyrights and trademarks protect their products, it's enough.

No need to protect ideas or algorithms. That's devastating to technology evolution.

Everyone suffer from it, including Microsoft. They aren't even the company having the most patents.
(2 replies) #25 mr_demilord on 19 May 2005 - 18:38
Next thing is the mouse button, everytime you click the mouse button once you have to pay 50 cents
#25.1 dolimite35 on 19 May 2005 - 18:48
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#25.2 Tantawi on 19 May 2005 - 19:03
that was funny
(2 replies) #26 nic on 19 May 2005 - 18:40
Patent laws are out of hand, and something in congress needs to be done.

Microsoft is just responding to our ridiculous patent laws. They are not getting these patents so they can sue others. They are getting them to protect what they actually have implemented in their software from joe-nobody out there that has a patent on some similar idea but really has jack **** to show for it.

I seriously doubt they are going to start going after other email programs. And for those who can't ****ing read past the title: Microsoft DID NOT patent email!. Who approves these misleading titles anyway?
#26.1 ichi on 19 May 2005 - 20:13
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Microsoft is just responding to our ridiculous patent laws. They are not getting these patents so they can sue others. They are getting them to protect what they actually have implemented in their software from joe-nobody out there that has a patent on some similar idea but really has jack **** to show for it.


Then why are they lobbying the european parliament to get software patents approved on Europe?
#26.2 nic on 19 May 2005 - 20:49
wow, I didn't know that. That sucks.
(1 reply) #27 b0b on 19 May 2005 - 18:49
Note: MS doesn't sue people for patent infringment, it is only to protect themselves from other people sueing them for stupid shat.
#27.1 Treefrog on 19 May 2005 - 20:51
You just keep on telling yourself that. Not that it'll make it any more true, but it seems to make you feel good.
(1 reply) #28 mr_demilord on 19 May 2005 - 18:58
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Microsoft is just responding to our ridiculous patent laws. They are not getting these patents so they can sue others. They are getting them to protect what they actually have implemented in their software from joe-nobody out there that has a patent on some similar idea but really has jack **** to show for it.


yes and my horse can talk better bull then you
#28.1 nic on 19 May 2005 - 19:54
My horse can't post more useless comments then you.

Care to explain you thoughts and ideas? Do you have any thoughts or ideas? Or is the alien emoticon the extent of your commenting capacity?
(3 replies) #29 NPGMBR on 19 May 2005 - 19:02
If you really wanna know why Microsoft and other companies are loading up on patents that seem dumb to us .......... look no further than the article that came out earlier this week claiming that someone is suing Microsoft over the ability to link data in Excel with data in Access.

Although I to think the patent system is broken; I understand that companies need to protect themselves from other their competitors and other by grabbing every patent they can until the U.S. Congress decides to change things. We all know that has a snowballs chance in hell of happening so companies have to load up on patents to defend themselves from their enemies.

I mean do you realize that something as benign as the solution used to clean your laundry is also patented? It offers the inventor the ability to collect royalties through licensing as well as protection against copy cats.
#29.1 raid517 on 19 May 2005 - 19:25
Yes but it still doesn't negate the fact that the whole software patent thing is fundamentally flawed. Fair enough that people patent detergents or other kinds of chemical cleaners, there is good reason and sense in this - but this stocking up on often mind bendingly trivial software patents is just completely nonsensical. There is a mad grab on for patents by everyone just in order to protect their own butts. This isn't what software patents were supposed to be intended for - it was supposed to be about protecting genuine innovation - not to stop countless and often pointless acts of litigation against companies for using tools and utilities that have been established standards since pretty much most of us can remember now.

Still companies like MS and Apple and all the others were in favour of software patents, so they probably deserve everything that is comming to them. They created this stupid situation - and now they are having to live with the concequences. But the problem is that it we the users who loose out - because even Microsoft could potentially run into patent issues that would prevent them from indulging in any form of genuine innovation.

Software patents just suck. Period.

GJ



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#29.2 SlakeT on 19 May 2005 - 19:58
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because even Microsoft could potentially run into patent issues that would prevent them from indulging in any form of genuine innovation.


I would think that would force any company to come up with their own idea to achieve a goal - not simply copy it.
#29.3 raid517 on 19 May 2005 - 22:06
Maybe, but sometimes there really is only one way to skin a cat.

GJ
#30 AethylFilth on 19 May 2005 - 20:11
I liken software patents to patents for recipes.

no-one needs patents in the food industry.. they just keep everything a secret, and if the secret gets out.. its their own fault
(1 reply) #31 King Raa on 19 May 2005 - 20:52
Does this effect Europe? Or just the U.S.A.? Software Patents for anything are stupid, jesus.
Europe hasn't approved software patenting yet right? *I hope it hasn't*.
#31.1 eAi on 20 May 2005 - 10:45
It looks like they won't (now), or if they do, they'll do it in a diluted way (attached to physical things or somthing).
#32 SquareSoft0 on 19 May 2005 - 20:59
I think software patents are absolutely horrible, but the fact is until the USA gets rid of them, companies will have to patent their ideas to survive. If you guys would RTFP (Read the ~freaking patent) you'd see that this is a very specific process that I doubt anybody is currently infringing on. Microsoft, many other companies, and many other people have made many frivolous patents, this isn't one of them surprisingly.
(5 replies) #33 Nelsinho on 19 May 2005 - 22:06
hmmm, I respect Microsoft good for them, although several people's complain;Microsoft drive the entire world no doubt, to north and south to east for west Microsoft rocks for ever this is irrefutable of course
#33.1 raid517 on 19 May 2005 - 22:14
Ahh at last, a genuine hardcore fanboy. I wondered where you had got to.

GJ
#33.2 SlakeT on 19 May 2005 - 22:25
Ahh at last, a genuine flamer of the truth. I wondered what rock you managed to push up.
Why don't you use all the energy to construct something worth saying in the first place?

ST
#33.3 Mathiasdm on 20 May 2005 - 05:03
And one can say the same thing to you.
#33.4 mr_da3m0n on 20 May 2005 - 12:24
Indeed.
#33.5 PCyr on 20 May 2005 - 12:52
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Microsoft drive the entire world no doubt, to north and south to east for west Microsoft rocks for ever this is irrefutable of course


lol, so your saying that if MS disappeared one day, the whole world would stop? Tone down on the hyperboles there.

If MS disappeared it would cause many problems for a short while in the IT world, but quickly other minority OSes would "step up to the plate" to replace the dominent OS; the average Joe wouldn't have much of a change in their daily lives.

Major companies go out of business all the time. What happens? The smaller companies grab a hold of the marketshare, and the world continues.
#34 Steven on 20 May 2005 - 01:48
Sweet a patent for work that was done 5 years ago!
(2 replies) #35 mr_demilord on 20 May 2005 - 09:28
I am going to patent the fanbois supporting m$, and will be more richer then Bill Gates
#35.1 eAi on 20 May 2005 - 10:46
You can't patent stupidity.
#35.2 PCyr on 20 May 2005 - 12:47
lol
#36 fjv on 20 May 2005 - 13:09
i am going to patent sitting straight while using the computer... so you will all have to crouch, or pay me money


fjv.
#37 dland@adelphia.net on 20 May 2005 - 14:57
I think IKEA already has a patent on that idea!
#38 Magallanes on 21 May 2005 - 00:15
US's patents are now owned by megacorporations. Common people cannot patent something, cause is expensive, complex and finally they refused the request. But megacorporations can patent anything, even idea! By default, math formulas and idea cannot be patented...
#39 EduardValencia on 23 May 2005 - 01:30
for all the "free **** any stuff" fanboys,the companies around the world need to patent their inventions to survive

point!

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