Microsoft updates slimmed-down Windows
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#1 Posted by 1ceman1 on 08 Jun 2005 - 20:38
- I can't see the point in this. People will just buy the one with media player. Especially if they are priced the same.
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#1.3 Posted by sphbecker on 08 Jun 2005 - 22:02
- I think the point was that the EU wanted to make sure people had the option to not use Media Player. Of cource they cost the same amount, Media Player is a free product, so they would not charge less for not including it.
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#1.4 Posted by mr_skrilla on 09 Jun 2005 - 00:19
- it is all really pointless... if you don't like Media Player then you can uninstall it or install some other program....
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#1.5 Posted by shao on 09 Jun 2005 - 08:21
- pointless for xp, maybe. But what does it mean for the future of windows? will we see longhorn N?
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#1.6 Posted by Cosmos on 09 Jun 2005 - 08:38
- During the install process, user's could be given an option to choose whether or not to install WMP, and are also given information for alternative products perhaps.
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#1.7 Posted by DJROrion on 09 Jun 2005 - 14:01
QUOTE During the install process, user's could be given an option to choose whether or not to install WMP, and are also given information for alternative products perhaps.
Yeah I can see it now "Thank you for choosing Windows XP Pro. Have you tried Linux yet? Or maybe you would Prefer a MAC instead?" Dont think its typical practice to give information for a competetor's software during ANY install. Why should Microsoft have to give information for alternative products? I agree with the option to choose to install or not to install WMP during the windows installer process but giving alternate information for a competetor product would be just stupid.
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#2 Posted by Express on 08 Jun 2005 - 20:39
- What the hell is assuage?
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#2.1 Posted by Tekmaven on 08 Jun 2005 - 20:42
- When I studied for The SATs, I had a box of 800 vocabulary words that came up often on the test. They were ranked in order of frequency, and guess what.. assuage was the first word (and the ONLY word I remember)...
Assuage - to relieve
Example: Studying my SAT Vocabulary will assuage my fears of doing poorly on the SAT. -
#2.2 Posted by quick on 08 Jun 2005 - 20:48
- You would think they would use a more known word for the arcticle title, i think the cnet author was trying to be a bit too fancy
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#2.4 Posted by Express on 08 Jun 2005 - 20:49
- Thanks.
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#2.5 Posted by mr_skrilla on 09 Jun 2005 - 00:20
- context clues... it really is pretty easy to see what it means.....
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#2.6 Posted by Joel on 09 Jun 2005 - 00:45
- It seriously scares me that someone using their vocabulary has become derided for it and called a showoff.
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#2.7 Posted by Ghostdraconi on 09 Jun 2005 - 02:38
- Big word bad
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#2.8 Posted by em_te on 09 Jun 2005 - 03:07
- The vocabulary one uses should reflect the comprehension abilities of the target audience. Just like how you wouldn't say, "good boy," at a university or, "wisenheimer," at a kindergarten.
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#2.9 Posted by quixos on 09 Jun 2005 - 03:52
- this is how a person learns new words. if people only talked down to babys, young children or adults, think of the consequences.
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#2.10 Posted by C-Fu on 09 Jun 2005 - 07:30
- Neowin - the place to learn new words
or to read old news
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#3 Posted by WinMacLin on 08 Jun 2005 - 20:41
- Its been on the market like 4 or 5 years the people who will be buying this wont create a large enough volume of sales to shift Microsoft's monopoly on the media player market.
This whole thing is just stupid.
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#4 Posted by Colin-uk on 08 Jun 2005 - 20:59
- i think there (microsoft) only doing this to please the EU..
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#4.1 Posted by beardly on 08 Jun 2005 - 21:11
- heh. $5 mil a day even from Microsoft is a good incentive to do this.
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#4.3 Posted by mr_skrilla on 09 Jun 2005 - 00:21
- .... um.... really now... you don't say.... thanks for clearing things up for us.
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#5 Posted by STanger on 08 Jun 2005 - 21:01
- I was hoping that XP N wouldn't be the same price as regular XP Home/Pro ..but this is typical Microsoft hard at work
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#5.1 Posted by Rudy on 08 Jun 2005 - 21:43
- why would they change the price?? i mean the use can go and download media player from the internet in 2 sec, its not like you cant install it
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#6 Posted by Kushan on 08 Jun 2005 - 21:46
- Why couldn't they just make a version of XP with WMP as an OPTIONAL install? Wouldn't that create the same effect?
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#7 Posted by Shibby on 08 Jun 2005 - 21:47
- lol why Waste money on just creating the N why not just change new version of xp so the users can enable or disable the player at setup.
then microsoft can not be at fault because its up to the users and pc makers/sellers
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#8 Posted by nic on 08 Jun 2005 - 21:57
- Shibby: they produced what the EU wanted... not what makes practical sense.
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#9 Posted by Alex_is_Axel on 08 Jun 2005 - 22:16
- id just like to add a congratulations to microsoft on doing this for the stuck up petty people even though i personally think they didnt have to.
I think if a user didnt want mircosoft or the other companies felt threatened.. then i dont think people should use Microsoft OS. I feel that mircosoft can put whatever they want on their own operating system and it bugs me to understand why people ask them to change their software (which is used to help users) just because they arent happy themselves. Maybe REAL should make their own OS?
Thats just my thoughts
Alex
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#10 Posted by AshMan on 08 Jun 2005 - 23:25
- What does the "N" stand for?
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#10.2 Posted by Lee McDermott on 08 Jun 2005 - 23:40
- Napkin
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#10.3 Posted by Makeshift Hammer on 09 Jun 2005 - 00:01
- noTunes
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#10.4 Posted by mr_skrilla on 09 Jun 2005 - 00:23
- Necro
def: Dead body; corpse: necrophilia.
Media player is dead in this version.
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#11 Posted by Makeshift Hammer on 08 Jun 2005 - 23:56
- Maybe so few copies will sell that places like p.c world (u.k. store) will have special sales solely directed towards shifting the cut down "n" version, giving me the chance to get a legit copy of XP Pro for £1.27p
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#12 Posted by eilegz on 09 Jun 2005 - 00:41
- stupid M$ and EU why not make it cheaper that would be a good option but if it priced the same thing i rather get the full version.
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#12.1 Posted by Skyfrog on 09 Jun 2005 - 04:17
QUOTE but if it priced the same thing i rather get the full version.
Well duh, that's what Microsoft (not M$) wants you to do. Why would they want people to buy a version without Media Player? They only made this stupid stripped down version to get the EU off their backs, but they still want people to buy the one with Media Player so by making them the same price guess which one most people will choose...
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#12.2 Posted by bryonhowley on 09 Jun 2005 - 06:14
- First its MS or Microsoft NOT M$!!! And why would they make it cheaper? They removed a FREE product from the OS. The key would would be free. There is no reason they would or should make it cheaper. What they should have done was told the EU to go ****ed themselfs and removed there product! If the users what Real Audio they can download the crap. It is not Microsofts fault that Real Player has sucked ass for so long that people don't what to use it. Even if it is better now I would never download it. But that is my choose. Just as it is to not use Media player. The simple fact is you do not need to remove Media Player inorder to use something else.
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#13 Posted by unbalance on 09 Jun 2005 - 05:58
- ... well if theyre going to go and yell at MS about WMP.... then im going to complain that Mac OS has iTunes AND quicktime... HA! see why arnt they going after apple? (no offence to the apple ppl here, im a user of both OSs... heheeh OSs... lols sorry .... getting a grip now) but i mean seriously... microsoft should make it so that their OS comes with a choise of select programs so its like durring setup it says:
choose which media player to install:
WMP
itunes
real
jet audio
winamp
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choose which interent browser to instal
IE
firefox
opera
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#13.1 Posted by Pierreken on 09 Jun 2005 - 06:31
- They can't add all the media players available to their list, can they?
Small (less known) players should have a chance too.
Why they don't go after Apple? Because it's all about monopoly, once Apple get's the same market share (if ever) they will ask them too for something like this.
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#14 Posted by CountStex on 09 Jun 2005 - 07:45
- Which is the problem with Monopoly commisions, they exist more to get in the way of sucsessful business than help out! Monopolies are a problem when the business uses their position to charge unrealistic prices for products, which quite frankly I don't believe MS do, and I've never tried to install a third-party program and had Windows tell me 'Sorry, we didn't write this, you can't have it' !
The fact is these days that there are huge numbers of people buying PCs who havn't a clue how to use them really. For these people they NEED MS to provide all their software, taking WMP out will just make things harder for them.
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#15 Posted by SniperX on 09 Jun 2005 - 08:14
- The EU had the perfect opportunity to show Microsoft that their devious and underhand sales tactics won't work in Europe. What do they do with it? Let Microsoft stitch them up. I despair. Whoever agreed this as a condition and resolution measure should be fired.
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#15.1 Posted by SquareSoft0 on 09 Jun 2005 - 10:35
- What do you know that the commission doesn't?
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#15.2 Posted by SniperX on 09 Jun 2005 - 17:27
- Do you stalk me naturally or is it something you've learned to do? Regardless, your question makes little or no sense.
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#15.3 Posted by SquareSoft0 on 09 Jun 2005 - 20:32
- I don't stalk you so much as I find the most ignorant replies and shed a little light on them. If you happen to be making many of these ignorant replies then perhaps you should stop.
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