Microsoft Preps Longhorn Blockbuster for PDC 2005
Posted by Steven Parker on 09 June 2005 - 10:13 · 12 comments & 788 views
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#1 Posted by Ideas Man on 09 Jun 2005 - 11:09
- Gawd, I can't get over how he whinges over a build that was not supposed to be consumer oriented, it was for hardware developers to make drivers, not to look pretty and include every Longhorn feature, hence the name Windows Hardware Engineering Conference.
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#1.1 Posted by werejag on 09 Jun 2005 - 12:13
- if you didnt know they invited press so they wanted the press to cover longhorn.
then microsoft slaped the press with that removal of screenshots so the press has given microsoft bad press coverage. all microsoft's fualt winhec 05 was bad. -
#1.2 Posted by outofcoffee on 09 Jun 2005 - 15:59
QUOTE Gawd, I can't get over how he whinges over a build that was not supposed to be consumer oriented, it was for hardware developers to make drivers, not to look pretty and include every Longhorn feature, hence the name Windows Hardware Engineering Conference.
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QUOTE I understand that this build is for developers, however, and sure enough, the DVDs that Microsoft handed out at WinHEC 2005 do include a Software Development Kit (SDK) and Windows Driver Kit (WDK), both of which require the Visual Studio 2005 beta. I'll install these tools and delve further into build 5048. However, my guess is that I won't have much more to report until I see Beta 1 or another pre-Beta 1 interim. Time will tell.
Just because his points about a step-back in usability are valid doesn't give you the excuse to whinge over him bashing the build. Read his article conclusions.
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#2 Posted by chrisblore on 09 Jun 2005 - 11:11
QUOTE Gawd, I can't get over how he whinges over a build that was not supposed to be consumer oriented, it was for hardware developers to make drivers, not to look pretty and include every Longhorn feature, hence the name Windows Hardware Engineering Conference.
Apple experiences the same problems. Mac fans get especially annoyed when the WWDC comes round and if Jobs has nothing consumer-orientated to announce. The fact is, these events are for developers and therefore one should have no expectations about end user products and features being announced. This year, for example, Apple was laying out the foundations and explanations for the route forward with the migration to Intel processors. I'd expect Microsoft to be doing the same thing.-
#2.1 Posted by werejag on 09 Jun 2005 - 12:17
- the developers couldnt even get the build off msdn where they are suspose to.
so winhec was not to lay down the out the foundations and explanations of longhorn. it was a failure all around
if the Developers couldnt get the build it made the whole event worthless
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#3 Posted by Cubiz on 09 Jun 2005 - 12:03
- Sounds interesting
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#4 Posted by TheSarge on 09 Jun 2005 - 12:23
- This is basicly WinXP in a shiney new package with lots of crap that you and I don't want.
Or at least that's what I think of Longhorn until I see otherwise.
And by 'see otherwise' I don't mean that some pinhead says "It's the greatest thing since Windows95"... I'm talking screenshots here, people. Hard evidence.
We already know that this thing will be NTFS based, not WinFS as was initialy promised. So go on, Microsoft: Convince me. -
#4.1 Posted by osu9400 on 09 Jun 2005 - 13:59
- Basically XP? I thought Longhorn was based on the Windows 2003 Server platform. Which btw, is very stable and fast.
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#4.2 Posted by outofcoffee on 09 Jun 2005 - 16:06
QUOTE I'm talking screenshots here, people. Hard evidence.
Hard evidence of the fact... that they publically haven't released screenshots of the new UI yet, despite what you *think* you've seen. Aero isn't it, but I guess you wouldn't know what that is judging by the lack of understanding you've already exhibited.
QUOTE We already know that this thing will be NTFS based, not WinFS as was initialy promised. So go on, Microsoft: Convince me.
Who promised? Bill Gates? Steve Ballmer? Some website? Ohh there you go. This was a misconception from the beginning - people read "FS" as "File System" when it stands for Future Store. And so-what if it's based off of NTFS? Did Apple build-in Journalling deep into the OS, or come up with a completely new file system? Did it work? Yes.-
#4.3 Posted by raskren on 09 Jun 2005 - 16:08
QUOTE I've seen the Aero screenshots and I'm not impressed...blah..blah...blah...OS X....blah...blah...
Nobody outside of MS (well maybe some developers) have seen full Aero Glass. Apparently, what was in 4074 and the latest WinHEC builds are early Aero Express UIs. We won't see Aero for some time.-
#4.4 Posted by mixpix on 09 Jun 2005 - 16:09
- Yeah, once again. WinFS was never ment to replace NTFS, it's an extension to it.
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#4.5 Posted by sphbecker on 09 Jun 2005 - 16:29
- I really do not understand why people get so caught up on screen shots and graphics. Sure, it is cool to have an OS that looks cool, but at the end of the day it doesn't effect how useful the OS is.
The cool thing about Longhorn (if you care about graphics) is that all the things they are adding and not being added to the explorer application, they are being added as APIs. What does that mean? It means that software written for Longhorn will be able to look much better then it ever has before. The Glass style title bar is just one example of what it can do. Once the platform is ready it will not take MS’s artists long to dress up the desktop to take advantage of these APIs.
No one was more disappointed in the Longhorn content Microsoft provided at April's Windows Hardware Engineering Conference (WinHEC), but the software giant appears ready to make up for it this September. That's when Microsoft will host its Professional Developers Conference (PDC) 2005 in Los Angeles. And with a quick look at the conference tracks and sessions, you can see that it's going to be a much more exciting event than WinHEC.
Indeed, PDC 2005 appears designed specifically to right the wrongs of WinHEC 2005. Instead of the warmed over look at Internet Explorer (IE) features from Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) that we were tortured with at WinHEC, PDC 2005 will include a session on new developer features in IE 7. Longhorn, naturally, is well represented as well, with sessions on the Longhorn User Experience Guidelines, Longhorn Server, the new PeerNet P2P features, Longhorn client security features, system reliability, ClickOnce deployment, and more.
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